True or false: The main reason why men raise and protect women and not the opposite is because men are stronger?

[melssvdv]

True, that is what history and reality shows

False, this is misogyny

Updates

4 mo

I think most women here hold a malicious envy towards the natural truth that men are stronger than women, hence why they demonize men. Like I did back then when I was a feminist.

[WonderingManII]

I don't know which one of those I should chose. It's always been a general understanding in society that men protect women. But these days with the rise of third or fourth wave of feminism. The roles have gotten really strange.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yep, mostly when it comes to protecting women from other men

[melssvdv]

Or anyone else.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yes indeed

[OlderAndWiser]

Men are also more aggressive and more territorial.

[Snakeyes7]

I often see people describe this as the oh so evil patriarchy ascribing gender roles, but for some reason, I don't think I have ever seen men actually complain about this role on its own.

The complaints arise when the women in question don't appreciate the protection or go as far as to stab them in the back physically or even legally. Daniel Penny is a good example of this legal backstabbing.

This will lead to men stopping this protection, not because they like it but because he will be condemned no matter what he does, just by different parties.

If you have read the Gulag Archipelago, this worship of criminals by the state, where those who defend themselves from them were punished, was one of biggest mistakes the USSR made that led to its own demise.

[ohsheeT]

It's a little bit deeper that that but yes its true.. every girl i have ever dated except 1. They know how to take care of themselves and they also know that I will there the second they need me

So if they need me I know that things have gotten out of control and that mean she smart to and is not going to let a guy hurt her either

[jonah777]

This

[emeraldsaphire]

Growing up most of the adults raising me were women. Sure there were a few men, like my Dad, my uncle, my grandfathers, but they were the exception, not the rule. So I don't think men raise children. I think there is some truth in protection. A couple of days ago my husband captured a big, scary spider for me.

I'm pregnant at the moment in my second trimester, and I feel a lot more vulnerable than I normally do. So I've been glad to have my husband around. I think men evolved to protect women during childbirth, and that just kind of spread to men taking the role of protector. Men are not universally bigger and stronger than women; it's just an average, and your size and strength do not mean you will win in a fight. There are countless examples of women stepping up, fighting, and winning. Like never get between a momma bear and her cubs.

[melssvdv]

I a man is stronger than both woman and children. Then he raises both his children and wife. That is just common sense.

[melssvdv]

Strong is the most straightforward, absolute, form of power that a human being can possess.

[Anonymous]

That might have been true when we were living in caves. And while lesser true later on, society was still formed where women stayed home and raised kids. But today, there really is no need for that. Through employment a woman can make just as much as a man. And even if she can't physically do something, she can HIRE a man to do it. Now we are at a pivotal point in history where women are splitting of into 2 subsections. The women who still want to be taken care of and catered to by men. And the ones who want to claime COMPLETE equality. And when I say this I don't mean there are only two types of women. I just mean there are two polar camps of women. Women can be found anywhere on the line linking the two camps.

[genericname85]

i don't see how being stronger is the reaon to raise anyone xD it may help doing that but it's not the reason for it right?

[melssvdv]

The strong raises the weak. That is just common sense.

[genericname85]

Well the reason to raise isn't the strength tho is it?

[genericname85]

It's just the means. Not the reason

[melssvdv]

Strength is most likely the main factor in order to raise someone else. The stronger raises the weaker.

[genericname85]

Yeah but you don't raise someone just cause you're strong right. So it's not the reason. Just a helpful aspect.

[Viola_456]

In most cases its true no doubt

[melssvdv]

Would you like a man stronger than you and raising you and your children? Do you want to be buried together with your loved one or buried ALONE?

[Viola_456]

Ofc i dont want to be burried alone.
And i dont need a man to be stronger than me, i need him to be smart and respectfull

[melssvdv]

What is the most important things in a man physically if not strength? Be honest.

[Anastasia4real]

Mostly girl's now day's stronger like men's but in every society men's protect women's in mostly situation's like a crowd misbehaving a women and in some special troubles

[Anonymous]

Protect women against what? Other men? Men don’t protect women, men are the biggest threat on the planet to women. Women are more likely to be killed, raped or abused by a man than anything else, like for example another woman or an animal or harmed by nature.

[Pohjolan]

Animals were a pretty common threat for most of human history as was starvation.

[melssvdv]

If men were a threat, we women wouldn't survived and live in this world made by men.

[melssvdv]

I think you hold a malicious envy towards the natural truth that men are stronger than women, hence why you demonize men. Like I did back then when I was a feminist.

[Twalli]

Men are generally stronger; puberty makes it easier for us to bulk up than women.

[Anonymous]

haha when was the last time men raise and protect women?

a man would never protect you unless...

learn this now.. men only protect women who can make them laugh. If you can make him laugh in your presence, you can get everything and anything from him. they call it "love"

[melssvdv]

I think you hold a malicious envy towards the natural truth that men are stronger than women, hence why you demonize men. Like I did back then when I was a feminist.

[Opinion Owner]

@melssvdv

demonize men?

the fact they start wars and make up the vast majority of serial killers?

the fact that they abandon their own kids for single moms to raise?

[melssvdv]

You are upset because men are capable in wars and have the power to shake the world and we women don't because we are not as strong and capable as men.

[jshm2]

LOL, domestic abuse figures show more men abuse women, then women abuse men.

[Snakeyes7]

Things like the Duluth Model completely scrub out female perpetrators because the creator of the model legitimately thought that a female abuser is impossible and women only "abuse" in retaliation.

Despite her later admitting that it was based on a confirmation bias, it is still around today and is a perfect example of how stats often use this same bias.

Here is an actual study as opposed to crime statistics:

ajph.aphapublications.org/.../AJPH.2005.079020

"Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases."

[Account]

I find the question irrelevant in my case, since if I have to count them down, I have mostly been protected more by women than by men in many cases.

[melssvdv]

I think you hold a malicious envy towards the natural truth that men are stronger than women, hence why you demonize men. Like I did back then when I was a feminist.

[Account]

Nothing malicious, no envy at all and no demonization. Nothing in my response even indicates anything emotional.
I am saying that based on my experience when I needed help in dangerous and life threatening situations, women have helped me out and protected me, not men.

[melssvdv]

":women have helped me out and protected me, not men. "
Sure sweetie.

[Dullie]

This is utterly true nothing to be a shamed of in a world of rapist men should stand up and protect their women thst is something innate

[Anonymous]

Protecting someone has nothing to do with strength. I've protected and raised my 6 sons even at times when I was weak

[melssvdv]

Sure, when they were small children. But the whole family is protected by a father. Simply because men are stronger.

[melssvdv]

"Protecting someone has nothing to do with strength"
Yes it does. Even a child knows that

[Opinion Owner]

And when my husband isn't around. Which is often. I still protect my kids

[melssvdv]

The moment they are 12 or so they won't need your protection because they become stronger than you. They (and you) still need a father and a husband to protect all of you until he becomes old.

[melssvdv]

And one again, strength does directly correlate to protection. Stop coping because you and me are women not as strong as men.

[Anonymous]

How does this joke of a fake pink account still exist?

[melssvdv]

What is wrong with you?

[melssvdv]

Just answer the question instead of spamming your same sentences over and over again across every post I see. Grow up.

[4ngelic]

obviously

[LC75LC71]

True.

[beefcakebradybatson]

True.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

True.

[Gexuoo]

Correct