Is it wrong to like our king just because he isn’t a tyrant?

[goaded]

Democrats Abroad, protesting in London

[loveslongnails]

Most monarchy's are symbolic, so if you have a benevolent, likeable king, enjoy it if you don't mind paying for the Royal family. :)

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump's a tyrant AND would-be king.

[MisterWack]

The Founders hate despotism, autocracy, and “divine rulership” for a good reason.

To erase this because you think your king is different than the ones that came before, literally is smearing The Founders, Constitution, and everything this country you scream Patriotism for all in the name of ONE man who promises to be “for the people”.

[goaded]

King Charles has essentially no power at all. That really does make him different from King George III. Things have changed immensely in 250 years.

[MisterWack]

@goaded Things changed after The Glorious Revolution. Power from transferred from Monarchial Rule to Parliament and the Monarchs were allowed to stay as a living symbol.
Now all they do is sit on their butts using the wealth on themselves.
Yes “things changed immensely”, due to Revolution. The ideas of freedom push Revolution.
I’m on the side of freedom, not the side of Despotism.

[goaded]

Parliaments in England date back to the 13th century, it increased its power (and beheaded a king) in the 17th century, brought back the monarchy, and I don't think there's been a revolution in the UK since.

[MisterWack]

@goaded Didn’t know those parts, thanks for the careful insight.
As for the monarchs, they just suck up money and waste space all because they are related to empires since long expired. Give all power back to the people, with it the money will be used for social goods.

[Zack-Bann]

Many monarchies around the world today are doing better economically and socially than most flashy republics


Sure they all have their critics
But the fact that it’s a crown on a head instead of a pin on the jacket doesn’t instantly make them worse


Leadership is a universal trial
Some leaders rise to it and make lemonade out of the lemons
And others fail by doing either too much or too little

[goaded]

Most monarchs aren't leaders, they stay out of politics as much as possible. At least, outside the Middle East.

[Kaneki05]

Democrats abroad need to be sent home, or maybe to Cuba since they'd prefer it after all. They can vote for America while there instead.
Plus gets rid of the whole king irony and they can still vote so win win?
And yes it is wrong, our king sucks.

[NathanDavis]

there's a few benevolent rulers out there... often named "The Great"

but many of them did great things for the people, while doing not so great for others, or in the past... lol

[goaded]

Only one British king has been called "the Great".

[NathanDavis]

for those who didn't read enough, yes...

[goaded]

Name two.

[NathanDavis]

read more than two books...

[Shiprex]

It's right to honour the position and tears person appointed that if they're doing the right thing

[CrystalPeak]

I don't get it. Who would say it's wrong? Do you mean the no kings people,?

[goaded]

I'm just saying "no tyrants" would be more universal.

[CrystalPeak]

Like the supreme leader of Iran?

[goaded]

Sure! Nobody's saying he's good, just that you should get support for your wars and have a plan to end them before you start them.

[CrystalPeak]

Did Obama get permission to bomb countries?

[Friendlybro79]

do two wrongs now make a right for maga? Can both be wrong? Can you admit that or is that against maga rules?

[CrystalPeak]

Can you answer my question about Obama?

[Friendlybro79]

I did by saying two wrongs don't make a right. Obama did not get approval a few times as well. That is not ok and neither is what Trump is doing in Iran. Also what he's doing here is costing a ton more tax payer dollars. See I'm not in a cult and can criticize every political policy because I'm not a dolt. Now can you answer the question that two wrongs don't make a right.

That said here's the similarities in Trump and Obama. Both administrations invoked the president’s Article II constitutional powers as Commander in Chief to justify unilateral action for "important national interests".

The difference is here Trump admitted out loud he just can't use the word war so they say operation to not get in trouble. Critics argue that this resembles more of a war than anything Obama did. That said again there's similarities for sure.

Can you say Trump is wrong too? I don't think Obama was right for how he handles Libya during his administration.

[CrystalPeak]

I don't think either president was wrong.

[Friendlybro79]

I think they abuse what is considered important national interests. Especially this war. What does the avg American get out of this? The didn't have a nuke, their bombs can't reach us, there was zero imminent threat, and they told us last year they destroyed their entire nuclear capability. What specifically do you think makes it right? Do you have more than empty responses or vague statements?

[CrystalPeak]

Empty responses? Why are you being an asshole? Is that the only way you know how to debate?

[CrystalPeak]

And don't forget you're the one that's butting into this conversation.

[Friendlybro79]

Oops. I did butt in by accident. That is my fault my apologies. I'm not an asshole, I just need my glasses lol. I thought you sent it @me when I was reading this originally. I def was in the wrong.

[Mike_Hum]

Nothing is funnier than a country with a king protesting a ruler in another country that isn’t a king. Smooth brains on display. lol.

[OddBeMe]

Yes, I wouldn't vote a fascist into office even if he had the same beliefs.

[888theGreat]

Did you hear Trump renamed the strait Trump Strait?