Liberals called MAGA Nazis in 2016 now they call them Jews. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

[RavVid]

One vacuous insult gets boring and starts lacking impact. The Left knows their fish start stinking and the have to rebadge routinely.

I still thought Fascist was quite popular however, despite it referring to socialist regimes.

[goaded]

Nobody's calling MAGA jews, that's just stupid.

[RavVid]

@goaded Not even Liberals? My local River to the Sea people don't seem to like Jewish people very much

[goaded]

So... you're saying because they hate MAGA and they hate the genocidal Israeli government, that means they say MAGA are Jews? Do you hear yourself?

[Asker]

@goaded but love genocidal governments of muslim countries

[goaded]

Which would that be?

[Asker]

@goaded gaza, Egypt, turkey, Pakistan, Nigeria, Somalia, yemen, Syria, Libya, Iran...

[goaded]

And who are they committing genocide on?

[RavVid]

@goaded There would seem an emotive thread and that is how emotional reasoning works There is is this and that is vaguely connected so therefore this = that. You are not meant to reason cognitively but be carried along on by your emotional response.

[goaded]

Your reasoning might be emotional, mine is factual.

I take it your "I still thought Fascist was quite popular however, despite it referring to socialist regimes." is a reference to the nonsense modern idea that the Nazis were socialists despite not a single contemporaneous hint of that being remotely true.

[RavVid]

@goaded @goaded You do realize that there were many forms of communism and that they were in violent disagreement with each other?

Such that the First International dissolved into conflict. Marx and Engels were always sending 'bombs' out to discredit political rivals. It started a long tradition of vitriolic hatred of the various forms.

Hitler, in his table talks said that he had learn't everything he needed to know from Marx he saw himself as having improved on Marxism.

Nazi's Fascists and Lenin/Stalin communist were all collectivist movements that ascribed to group identity. They were all authoritarian and considered the 'group' should make economic decisions. To that end they all had belief in a powerful state and properly individuals suborn their own interests to the state and persecuted people they thought were not fully on board with the program.

They all had a core of Marxism and had a concept of autarky.

We see this in unions today. There is Hard Right, Socialist Left, Center Left, Center Right. They are still all trade unions; they just hate each other's gut is all.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck etc.

[goaded]

You do realise that you didn't provide a single contemporaneous hint of it being remotely true that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists? They took over the corporations, they enslaved people, they murdered millions; these are not socialist ideas.

And WTF is a "Hard Right" union?

[RavVid]

@goaded I think Hitlers table talks were about as contemporaneous as it can get and as it was to the inner circle, he was disclosing secrets not suited to the masses.

Good question on what is a Hard Right union. The simple answer is it oppositely opposed to Hard Left with the Centre Left and Right in between. The real answer is they are all still bloody unions and on the left side of politics. But within the Left they have Right and Left. it is all relative not absolute.

Yeah Lenin/Stain could call Hitler right wing and some might call Maga right wing. That doesn't Maga wants to set up gas ovens.

Not all Right wings are actually Right wing. Hitler was just right wing to Stalin's eyes.

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[goaded]

So Hitler read Marx. I've read Tolkien, does that make me a Hobbit?

I've read 1984, and take it as a warning, other people take it as an instruction manual.

So, there's no such thing as a Hard Right union, if they're all left. It's not "all relative", the left is about social equality and egalitarianism, the right is against it.

MAGA is already setting up concentration camps. As a student of history, I'm sure you know the Final Solution didn't get started until about a decade after Hitler took power and made the actual socialist parties illegal.

[OneViewpoint]

Not surprising. MAGA changes its tune on a daily basis to suit whatever trump stupidity occurred in the moment. So yeah, one day they are White Nazis and the next they hate Jews and the next they hate Muslims more than Jews.

And you like sanity from the rest of us in response to your insanity? Not gonna happen.

[Asker]

@SeekerOfTruth007 muslim new york politician recently claimed 9/11 was America's fault

[OneViewpoint]

It was. It was the direct result of US meddling in the business of middle east oil states for more than 100 years. Picking the winners and losers. Supporting corrupt monarchies. Looking the other way when it comes to rape, murder, and slavery. All to make oil corporations more wealth.

[Asker]

More than 100 years. So in 1926 the US was in the middle east? Read a book dude.

The first involvement the US had in the middle east was 1801 when the US sent a small military contingent to stop muslims raiding US merchant ships and enslaving US citizens, the muslims claimed Allah allows them to do that to non muslims, they fucked around and found out.
US troops didn't enter the middle east until the 1991 Gulf war when the neighboring Iraqi muslim countries begged the US to set up bases and protect them from Sadam.

[OneViewpoint]

Apparently you've been reading Dick And Jane books. Here's short history of the last 100 or so years of Western manipulation of middle eastern countries. The US has been in the middle of it every time. You can't possibly be as stupid as you pretend.

www.socialistalternative.org/.../

Not mentioned here was the US involvement in the establishment of Israel and the support of the US for British and French interventions in the early 20th century.

Maybe get out of your echo chamber and do some actual research. The world didn't start the day you were born child.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

They’re not calling them jewish, they’re calling them zionists. It’s possible to be jewish without being zionist and vice versa.

[Asker]

Yes of course in 2026 its ok to come out with Nazi rhetoric

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I mean, you’re kind of close. Zionism is a form of nationalism, so it’s close to the nationalist socialist party that became the nazis.

[Asker]

And the Arab Nationalism of the Palestinians that has preached killing every jew in Israel since 1948 ?
Mein Kampf has been a best seller in Palestine and the arab world for decades.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

So you want to say that arabic nationalism of the people forced to endure what the UN recognized as an illegal occupation of Palestine since their arrival in 1948 is somehow worse than the nationalism of the people claiming their nation’s land actually belongs to their specific ethnic group and have no established borders?

[Asker]

The jews had always been there and like the Palestinian colonists other jews immigrated there. In 1948 both the Israelis and jews were granted the right to rule themselves on the lands they lived on, the muslims could not accept that as no non-muslim in the musllim land has the right to self determination and is persecuted. So in 1948 the Palestinians and all the muslim arabs from all over the middle east decided to wipe completely out all the Jews in Israel from the river to the sea but the brave Jews of Israel beat back their attack and the Palestinian as the price of their attempted Genocide forfeited their lands.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Where was this story published?

[Asker]

Its history. You should read up on it.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I have, I’m not sure you did

[Asker]

Loom it up. You only. have to look at the coptics in Egypt, Christians in Lebanon, Christians is Pakistan

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You mean outside of the christians killed by Israel?

[Asker]

Nothing compared to Christians killed by Muslims in muslim countries. Just look at Egypt, Nigeria, sudan, eithiopia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, turkey...

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

So because Palestine is a country with a high muslim population, they deserve to disappear to be replaced with a jewish ethnic nation that will grow over more arabic countries as it attempts to recreate its former biblical borders?

[Asker]

No. They could choose to live in peace with their jewish neighbors. A choice theyve refused since 1948.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

What about their christian neighbors?

[Asker]

They aren't gang raping their children

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I mean, that depends on who you ask

[purplepoppy]

Nobody's calling you a Jew. Grow up.

[Lliam]

I never heard of "liberals" calling MAGA "Jews". What psycho made this up?

Granted, Christian Zionist Evangelicals support the murderous, sadistic, psychopathic state of Israel, but that doesn't make them Jewish.

[Asker]

As opposed to the murderous, sadistic, psychopathic state of Gaza?

[Lliam]

You mean the outdoor prison camp that Israel rounded Palestinians into after stealing their land through brutal murder and terror?
Don't tell me that you believe Israel is only defending itself. If so, then the Nazis were defending themselves by invading other countries, terrorizing and murdering the inhabitants.
Were those who resisted the Nazis terrorists?

Israelis are even worse than Nazis.

[Asker]

Israel maintains its own boarders with Gaza, as does Egypt and up until recently Syria.
The other Arab countries won't even take the Palestinians in, why do you think that is?

[Lliam]

Israel doesn't even have defined borders. It expanded across the entirety of Palestine in violation of the British Mandate and UN Charter, stole part of Syria and is expanding into Lebanon. It has a Yinon plan for a "Greater Israel" that goes from the Nile to the Euphrates, through Jordan and Saudi Arabia and to the Mediterranean. It is a cancer.

Why should other countries take in Palestinians when they already have their own country called Palestine? Why should they allow Israel to drive Palestinians out of their own country?

[Asker]

They expanded after being attacked by the Palestinians and entire arab world. The price of their war and attempted genocide was the loss of their lands.

[Asker]

For the record Israel once occupied Egyptian territory as far as the eastern banks of the suez canal and the entire Egyptian sinai but returned it for peace with Egypt after completely wrecking the Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians in the you kipper war.

[Lliam]

You believe the Israeli narrative. They justify everything by saying they are just defending themselves.

They were attacked because of their behavior against Palestinians. Have you ever heard of the Nakba?

They pulled out of Egypt because of intense pressure from the U. S. and the USSR.

What about the USS Liberty?

[Asker]

Not the Israeli narrative. Minorities all over the arab world in every muslim country at the time were and still are being oppressed. The difference being the Israelis were able to stand up for themselves

[Lliam]

Muslims, Christians and Jews lived for centuries in Palestine in peace and harmony as friends and neighbors. They all had places of worship. There was no religious animosity or violence. People from all over the world came to visit the holy land.

Not under the Ottoman Empire or in Persia.

When Jews were being murdered and oppressed in Europe during the Inquisition and all the following pogroms, Jews were welcome in the Middle East and enjoyed a golden age.

After the holocaust, Palestinians initially opened their arms to Jewish refugees and helped them. But the Zionists (not all the Jews) who wanted their own Jewish state treated Palestinians the way American settlers treated the Native Americans. Those Zionists were vicious terrorists.

[beefcakebradybatson]

As are American minorities.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The Jews have lived in that land for close to 13,000 years. It belongs to Israel, not some fake Palestinians.

[Cidknee]

Well one thing is for certain children, when the King returns to save Jerusalem and Israel it will be done.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Cidknee King Slobbius The First can't save his junk food meals, let alone America, The Middle East or anyplace else !!!

[Cidknee]

@beefcakebradybatson I speak of Jesus Christ.

[beefcakebradybatson]

You misspelled "borders", lass.

[indissoluble]

Democrats are the Nazis. Nazis are national Socialists. They are Islamic by faith, just like this Black Islamic Obama Nazi.

https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2055392851006013890

That's why the Democrats support Hamas/Palestinians and the IRGC in Iran.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/iUF_3WCjUWg

[DonaldDarko]

I really never saw this coming. I knew commies and Nazis were close cousins but I didn't know there was so much overlap. They're always ranting about Nazis and racism. Yet here they are acting just like their cousins.

[strateguy632]

Good point. Those name callers are insane. And whoever they call racist, loses citizenship according to them!

[Tomislav7]

Dont they just try to label anything they want to attack?

[goaded]

Seriously? As an American, do you think of Democrats and Republicans, or Liberals and Americans? ↗

Or this:
"Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism" on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.

What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's all he means." President Harry's Truman, Syracuse, New York, October 10, 1952.

[Cidknee]

That's what they called communist.
"Socialism."

[goaded]

@Cidknee "
Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."

[Cidknee]

You are so dumb! Why repeat that drivel? It doesn't negate the fact that they called communism socialism. 😂

[Cidknee]

Umm, yeah, they do!

[goaded]

@Cidknee Because it isn't communism. It isn't even socialism.

[Cidknee]

They called it such dude!

[goaded]

@Cidknee Is bank deposit insurance communism?

[Cidknee]

😅
Oh man!!!
😂

They're so stupid!
🤣🤣

[Mike_Hum]

lol, it just keeps getting sillier.

[Danzigdawson]

Nazis, now more than ever.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

MAGA are RUSSIANS PUPETS!!!

[Cidknee]

😂🖖🫰👍

[Dargil]

Typical ignorant female nonsense.

[exitseven]

Yikes,

[beefcakebradybatson]

WTF?