Should People who openly support murderers and serial killers be allowed on this site?

[msc545]

I want to make it very clear that I would never support removing anyone from the site unless they did or said something far more egregious than what these people have said and done. I may not agree with their politics, but I agree with muffling them or censoring them even less. That said, I wonder how others feel about their presence. We all know who they are.

Nothing should happen to them at all. If nothing else, we should support free speech.

I want all of them gone. I'm tired of reading their vicious crap.

I'm one of the people you referred to, and I think you should be gone for even suggesting this.

[Sevenpointfive]

sure. they aren't murdering or killing. why would there opinion not be allowed? it's just an issue. i supported bryan kohberger. they never proved anything and i think the actual killer got away. we probably do have serial killers today even with all of the cameras. we definitely have murderers and they aren't all bad.

like that woman who ran over some guy who assaulted her and she got away. that's not her fault he made a stupid decision. she was fighting for her life and they give her 35 years? it's almost like they're saying you should have just let the crime happen even if he was going to kill you. it's stupid. i hope she appeals and gets out.

[msc545]

What woman was that? Here, speaking of Rebecca Grossman, that woman who lives in my general area ran over two children and killed them in a crosswalk when she was drunk, and she got thirty-five years as well. Is this the woman you are speaking of?

[jshm2]

It's what "freedom of speech" essentially means. But also ToS does have other stipulations against violence and such content.

Not sure what anyone would gain "openly supporting" serial killers and murderers. But technically that could include military, secret service and other such government institutions.

Hence it's not as clear cut as you think. One person's "military" could be another person's terrorist organisation.

[msc545]

I think you know exactly what I meant when I wrote the title of this question. Nick picking like this serves no purpose.

[MrChinaski]

Freedom of speech includes the freedom to hate.

[slatyb]

Yes, and it includes the freedom to shun the people who espouse hate, or to block them from an social media platform.

[MrChinaski]

@slatyb What's so scary about words?

[msc545]

I don't think it's an issue about the words. I think it's an issue about what underlies the words.

[MrChinaski]

Sunlight is the best disenfectant.

[MrChinaski]

disinfectant

[msc545]

If all it took was to keep violent people from doing violence, if all it took was sunlight to keep people from doing violence, I would love them, but unfortunately, that's not the case. I don't I think you meant that to begin with. For a minute there, it seemed like you almost did.

[MrChinaski]

I'm not saying forums will stop murders. I don't think they will cause them either.

And the cost of censorship is high.

Who will censor you?

A healthy society requires engagement, not censorship.

[msc545]

I don't necessarily disagree with you, and I do agree that forums will not stop murders. As for causing them, I'm not so sure they don't.

[NoDecision]

I say stick them in a prison cell with convicted murderers and see what they will have to say. Think of it as "Scared Straight".

[Iron_Man]

What they need is counseling big time if they support that. And you can help them

[msc545]

I'm sorry to have to tell you that there are things I can not fix.

[NovaSpawn]

Do people actually do that here? That is gross. Something should be done about that.

[msc545]

Yes, people actually do that here.

[Anonymous]

Depends on the killer, Maudsley only targeted kiddie fiddlers
Only people against that are likely guilty of the same

[BCRanger10]

Which murderer are we referring to?

[msc545]

Take your pick. We have plenty of them.