I see some say things like "what's rights don't they have". Are people really not aware of the answer to that question? It's easy to answer if one looks.
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If you deny transgender people right to transition without government interfering and call them abominations or mentally ill by claiming you know better than transgender people, why shouldn't you be banned to go for health things like say knee issues?
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As we see who's very aggressive, hostile yet you cannot sow a seed of cruelity and bring a blessing. This behavior of sowing is biblical. As we see many times online elsewhere the same unstable hostile uncommpassionate attitude. Hypocrisy. Transgender are not mentally ill obviously.
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Some of the respondents on this thread are as ignorant as the strawmen they think they're burning.
Okay, so here's the deal. I don't think the concept of transgenderism should exist. The people? What's done is done. I'm going to make a pretty bold claim though. I think that I, the traditionalist Catholic arch-conservative, have more compassion for these people than their rainbow flag-waving cheerleaders; I really do. Such people are clearly not at peace with who they are, whether it's because of how they were raised, the friends they had, the media they consumed, or if there are certain natural dispositions which make them more susceptible. What they need though is genuine love and compassion, and the most merciful, loving, and compassionate thing to do though is to tell them the truth, to correct them. And no, that doesn't necessarily mean smack them over the head and say "no, you're really a man!"
If someone is fundamentally disturbed about who they are, but have no true knowledge or experience of what it means to be the opposite sex, and if they don't naturally have the biology, neurology, or physiology of such, how is it NOT better to help them conform their mind, heart, and will to that which they do have? The alternative, as I see it, is to allow them to continue searching for something they will not find.
Think of it like this. If a pretty, sweet 120-pound 17-year-old girl starves herself to 80 pounds soaking wet because the dumb, hot, popular b*tch at school thinks she's fat and ugly or she spends too much time on Instagram, is it compassionate to encourage or allow her to continue vomiting after every meal that she actually eats? Or if someone thinks bad guys are after them, waiting around every corner, is it compassionate to maintain the illusion? Or a grown, capable adult thinks he or she is still a baby?
The irony is that a lot of the same people calling guys like me idiotic transphobes are the same ones who will tell a young, white man who is depressed because he can't find a job or a girl that he's just a bitter incel who just needs to move over and let the women take charge because his time of dominance is over.
And I wasn't going to mention God or the Bible, but since you did...does God make mistakes or does He not? The talking point I've heard often is that if a man is gay, "God doesn't make mistakes". But transgenderism more or less argues the opposite, so which is it?
I will gladly argue that they should have the right to be free from harassment, bullying, or other such things, but it seems to me that the main "right" they and their supporters are most interested in is that to my full approval and support. I do not give it.
See this right here is an example of what gets people pissed or call you anti trans.
First you assume they will be positive to accept as others demand by use of truth word yet you know nothing of them.
2, you intimate its sin. How would you like to be told you having certain hair is sinful yet you couldn't help it?
3, your refusal to even be respectful and use their name.
This is why people get frustrated with conservatives onthis because like you wrote is not how it is.
"First you assume they will be positive to accept as others demand by use of truth word yet you know nothing of them." Um... what?
"2, you intimate its sin. How would you like to be told you having certain hair is sinful yet you couldn't help it?" Again... what? Hair color has nothing to do with what the essence of a person is.
"3, your refusal to even be respectful and use their name." Oh well. I'm not going to play that game, let alone by their rules.
Went right over your head I see on what I said. Sowing seed of cruelity like your oh well comment or calling peoples lives a game just shows my point further.
Peoples lives are not a game nor is it fair to act like they are playing a game. Oh well? Try being better
Wait till you need compassion and you get told oh well possibly sometime
People who oppose transgender rights or believe there should be restrictions on their ability to transition successfully are biased idiots. They are hateful creatures who fear what they don't understand. They are also the kind who would limit others rights if they could but throw a fit if someone messed with their own rights which is hypocritical.
They use fear tactics like "oh we are protecting the children" when in fact they are hurting them even more and driving up suicide rates for trans youths which ultimately is their end goal, to get rid of trans people as a whole. They have been fed this hatred their whole lives and project it on a marginalized group just to feel better about themselves. It's sick.
As for what they have lost, Healthcare is among the top. They have also lost the ability to use the correct bathroom for how they identify, in some states, them being charged with a felony for using the correct bathroom for how they identify. All this does is put transwomen at risk from being assaulted in men's bathrooms and puts cis women at risk because transmen, who absolutely look like men, normalize men entering women's restrooms. What's gonna stop a cis guy from entering women's bathrooms now and claiming he's a transman?
It has also put a target on cis women's backs if they don't conform to traditional standards of beauty and dress/style, to be transvestigated and attacked by others for looking different. Cis people who support these bans are cruel, misguided, or/and want violence to occur.
Trans rights are human rights. Leave them alone and just treat them like you expect to be treated. It's simple.
Im not aware of limits to people over the age of consent. Below that, it's a child by definition and there are variety of limits in their life and the parents are generally in control.
I've spent no time in their world, so I don't know what rights they lack. They have the same realities the rest of us have... to make good choices for their life.
Personally, I try very hard to stay away from Dr's and people with knives and address my emotional and spiritual and physical issues in natural ways. When it's required, then I go to the knife if there's no other choice.
I know what it's like to have something annoying on the body that needs fixed, I know what it's like to feel emotionally or spiritually bad and have it dealt with. So in some minor way, I can relate , but it's nothing I experienced... to be in a body that doesn't align with what my mind tells me. That to me is an integrity issue. But why it comes out as purely a physical issue doesn't make sense to me. It has to be an emotional, spiritual... hormonal issue as well. I've seen the vidoes of transitioning transitioned back as evidence of a few.
I've also seen young people drawn into these, what I'll call distortions relative to how they are born. People are impressionable and can be convinced of things that are not true to them. So there's a social component.
To me people are free to work out their stuff as far as I know. I'd wonder if people are truly aware of the hormonal, spiritual and emotional impact such has on how one views themselves and how their self image can be distorted. Lots is out there to discover thyself.
I'd even go as far to say that the purpose of the world is to confuse you. That's certainly a goal of our country, so that people waste time and money. Otherwise, we wouldn't provide so much poisonous food, media, information, music, and of course trauma into the minds of developing humans.
The level of cruelty and sheer ignorace in some of the opinions is just sad and disturbing. Just when you think people may have some basic human decency on such issues,, you find the world is full of hateful morons.
It's pure evil.
They sound like scammers and that's no complaint.
A 'right' and a 'wishing list' are two different things.
And: most ''rights'' are just societal agreements.
Let's also include here: the ''rights'' of those who have a different opinion
Forcing a medical doctor to sexually mutilate you isn't a right, hope that helps
I’ve heard trans people say they have the brain of the opposite sex. Why aren’t brain scans used to diagnosed Gender dysphoria then?
They just don’t care and/or don’t want them to have the same rights
It's not that they are unaware, it's that they don't give a shit
So what rights aren't they getting?
You know the answer.
@shish_kebab refusing to answer you too? 🤷♂️
@FrodoSkywalker007 FrodoSkywalker007 is baiting you into a classic internet debate trap. He is using a common rhetorical tactic called "sealionaling"—where an adversarial user pretends to be politely asking for "examples" or "evidence", but their actual goal is to draw you into a long, exhausting argument so they can pick apart your words.
You correctly identified this in the thread when you called it his "little game". He is not asking because he wants to learn; he is asking to try and prove you wrong.
Nope, I'm just asking for evidence of your claims.
Are you now saying declarative statements should be accepted on face value?
If so, I declare you are a Martian.
I'm not required to provide evidence.
I win.
Or maybe you can provide examples
@FrodoSkywalker007 were not playing this little game you want.
So, no examples at all? Not even one?
@FrodoSkywalker007 are you this bored kid?
Sooo none? 🤷♂️
@FrodoSkywalker007 so you already know the answers.
You can just save us time and say you no examples
@FrodoSkywalker007 following me now huh?
Yep ☺
So, examples?
@FrodoSkywalker007 nope. You know the answers now please stop harassing me. Understood
Soooooo...
No examples?
@FrodoSkywalker007 you got one more chance to leave me alone before I report you plus block you.
Scary 😱
Thanks for proving you have no evidence
@FrodoSkywalker007 your reported.
*you're
@FrodoSkywalker007 bye
I don't know any trans people so I don't know what rights they're not getting. Are they allowed to vote?
See right there's the thing. You don't know any trans people yet you are for bans against them im guessing.
"guessing" is the key word.
The trans people have all the rights that everybody else has. I think you're just trolling.
It's mostly ignorant, intolerant idiots.
What rights do they lack?
You know the answer.
So, no examples?
Why give you examples to answers you already know?
Give me an example of a right I have, that a trans person does not.
Your little game of you know answer but you need me to say right so you critize. 2.5 weeks hopefully democrats win big and stop this anti trans foolish evil once and for all.
No examples at all?
I told you you know the answers your just looking to be right. 2.5 weeks.
Soooooo
No examples?
You already have answers
Soooooo
No examples? 😂 at allllll
I am not even sure what a transgender person is.
Don't care
You will. Look at your medical industry