Why is it not a baby when a woman wants an abortion, yet if a man kills a pregnant woman, women think he should face double murder charges?

[Anonymous]

[Kaneki05]

Because the mother intended in having the baby, the guy took it away forcefully on his own accordance and decided for her. Which is obviously different to a woman not intending to have one and choosing herself. To say it's not different is being dishonest because obviously it is.

[Asker]

So whether the baby is wanted or not determines whether it's a baby or not?

[Kaneki05]

Pretty much.

[Asker]

That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard and it pretty much confirms that it is a baby

[Kaneki05]

Probably is to someone who can't tell the difference between a guy killing a pregnant women and her choosing to abort.

[Asker]

And what is being murdered and what is being aborted?

[Kaneki05]

My point proven by you even asking that. If you can't figure out the difference between someone murdering a woman who's pregnant and a woman getting an abortion that's a primary school you issue.

[Asker]

I understand the difference perfectly well. You're explaining the difference between consent and murder but you're completely avoiding my actual question. If an unborn child can be considered a separate murder victim when a pregnant woman is killed, why is that same unborn child not considered a separate person when the woman chooses to have an abortion? That's the distinction I'm questioning

[Kaneki05]

Because the mother gets to choose that its in her body, its her cells her life if she wants it to be or not, its really simple. Besides if we went down your route men would be forcing women to give birth no matter what and if she don't there is a murder charge, and if the mother dies or is a terrible parent who cares right? If the child has to go into home right away and waste funding on others backs who cares right?
Wow amazing system you've created by removing women's consent, while we're at it why not remove other rights?

[Mariogirl09]

No one thinks that. Its only when a woman is under 2 momths that they consider it a clump of cells

[msc545]

Women get special privileges including having their murder victims redefined as not being victims so that they don't have to face any legal charges. Doesn't matter what you call the baby. It's still a baby and if you kill it, it's murder.

[goaded]

Because the presumption is that the murdered fetus was wanted.

[Asker]

So whether the baby is wanted or not determines whether it's a baby or not?

[goaded]

No, it determines if its death counts as a murder or not.

[Anonymous]

Good question because the law sucks and it means that abortion is murder. This proved my point!! Do you think woman should go to jail for abortion at 8 weeks because of this? The laws suck they really do!!

[moddy_the_mod]

Hi welcome to the wonderful world of women's double standards.

[Wemix]

Oh you're fxcked up man

[Asker]

Answer the question

[Wemix]

Law differentiates between an embryo and a baby.
Just like an abortion after 3 months without a medical excuse is a crime, a man killing both a woman and her BABY is punished as it should be.
Overall, the intention of murder is worse when it involves hurting a pregnant woman.

[exitseven]

that is a good question.

[Anonymous]

SOURCE?