Well, you didn't specify against whom. By the way you phrased your question, it sounds more like you're asking if they should be allowed to compete against each other. But I assume you mean against members of their (trans) gender. I think this is something that should be judged on a case by case basis, depending on where they are in their transition and if and when they took puberty blockers. Those details make all the difference.
Yes, trans athletes should be able to compete, as long as they compete according to their birth gender. Biological males should not compete against females... Period! There's a reason why trans males don't compete against Biological males... they would never win! Never!
no. even if their hormone levels were in line (they aren't) their bone structure is different. a man has more harrow hips than a woman's and thus can rotate and turn faster and is more aerodynamic. this study was done by the olympics on the subject link.springer.com/.../s40279-020-01389-3
I say let them. Though my view on the subject comes from the same view point I have on the many if not all of the trans debates. Someone being trans does not have a direct impact on my life. So I don't really see a reason to care.
You could frame many things, including women's sports as discrimination. Turns out, discrimination isn't always wrong. We discriminate against age all the time, we don't allow adults to fuck children or teenagers, and we try to avoid putting biological women at the mercy of biological men, such as with bathrooms and in physical sports.
@BrosephBrostar Yep! Great observation there Broseph! And to @pillarofhell It’s TOO easy for guys to cheat that way! Tell you what, AFTER you cut your dick and balls off, you STILL can’t compete against 5ft tall women, BUT you CAN use the women’s shower with me after, ill even soap you up if you say please! But AFTER you snip off your cock ‘n balls! Okay is that better?
@Willoughby23 Thank you, but this “pillar” guy is just a troll! Guys like this create accounts and when everyone gets sick of them they just create a new account and start all over w/ another “thing”
@pillarofhell does the idea of keeping your fists reserved for physical equals scare the shit out of you or something? Trans female athletes are COWARDS, nothing more. They're too bitch to fight men so they beat up on women because their self worth is that far down the gutter.
If they compete with other trans athletes go for it! If your born with a wiener you can't play with the girls it is unfair! Not due to hormone levels but muscular skeletal structures.
Imagine being a real woman, working and training hard for a decade, only to have some man get a snip and hormones to put in twice your performance and get selected.
Lol, absolutely not. They can have their own competitions! I don't care if a trans person had surgery though and wants to use my bathroom but they have to have all female parts. (Real)
Well if we were sure that transgender women were not advantaged by their physique and that from this point of view they are not advantaged by that then she should be able. Otherwise there should be a Transgender category
Personally, I dont think so. I dont think it is fair to have a 6'5 man decide he's a woman born in the wrong body and then take out gold at the Olympics in women's freestyle wrestling.
I find it funny how everyone now suddenly cares about women but at the same time no one thinks the men would lose to transmen. Fuck your science. Women would still whip the floor with transwomen.
There needs to be a separate category for trans only. Otherwise biologically women's sports will simply disappear. If these two sentences trigger you, then sue me for not being a hyper misogynist hag.
Every athlete has advantages and disadvantages over others. I don’t think we have enough data to know if trans women would have that much more of a leg up. As opposed to rich athletes who can practice 24/7 because they don’t have to work.
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Well, you didn't specify against whom. By the way you phrased your question, it sounds more like you're asking if they should be allowed to compete against each other. But I assume you mean against members of their (trans) gender. I think this is something that should be judged on a case by case basis, depending on where they are in their transition and if and when they took puberty blockers. Those details make all the difference.
Yes, trans athletes should be able to compete, as long as they compete according to their birth gender. Biological males should not compete against females... Period!
There's a reason why trans males don't compete against Biological males... they would never win! Never!
They can compete - with other trannies or men. But not with women.
Most sports in the world allow women to compete with men. There is a reason why they do not do it. Because they would get their ass beat hard.
no. even if their hormone levels were in line (they aren't) their bone structure is different. a man has more harrow hips than a woman's and thus can rotate and turn faster and is more aerodynamic. this study was done by the olympics on the subject link.springer.com/.../s40279-020-01389-3
I say let them. Though my view on the subject comes from the same view point I have on the many if not all of the trans debates. Someone being trans does not have a direct impact on my life. So I don't really see a reason to care.
Absolutely! With OTHER trans athletes! It’s SO unfair to girls when former guys join the sport!
That's called discrimination by the way
You could frame many things, including women's sports as discrimination. Turns out, discrimination isn't always wrong. We discriminate against age all the time, we don't allow adults to fuck children or teenagers, and we try to avoid putting biological women at the mercy of biological men, such as with bathrooms and in physical sports.
@BrosephBrostar Yep! Great observation there Broseph! And to @pillarofhell It’s TOO easy for guys to cheat that way! Tell you what, AFTER you cut your dick and balls off, you STILL can’t compete against 5ft tall women, BUT you CAN use the women’s shower with me after, ill even soap you up if you say please! But AFTER you snip off your cock ‘n balls! Okay is that better?
Wow the transphobia. Are you sure you're an lgbT ally?
I agree with @CrazyGirl2
@Willoughby23 Thank you, but this “pillar” guy is just a troll! Guys like this create accounts and when everyone gets sick of them they just create a new account and start all over w/ another “thing”
@pillarofhell does the idea of keeping your fists reserved for physical equals scare the shit out of you or something? Trans female athletes are COWARDS, nothing more. They're too bitch to fight men so they beat up on women because their self worth is that far down the gutter.
@t-8900 Oh sweetie, didn’t you know, he only attacks women… kinda like Fallon Fox!
If they compete with other trans athletes go for it! If your born with a wiener you can't play with the girls it is unfair! Not due to hormone levels but muscular skeletal structures.
No. Their "dreams" are the nightmare of others.
Imagine being a real woman, working and training hard for a decade, only to have some man get a snip and hormones to put in twice your performance and get selected.
Lol, absolutely not. They can have their own competitions! I don't care if a trans person had surgery though and wants to use my bathroom but they have to have all female parts. (Real)
Well if we were sure that transgender women were not advantaged by their physique and that from this point of view they are not advantaged by that then she should be able.
Otherwise there should be a Transgender category
Personally, I dont think so. I dont think it is fair to have a 6'5 man decide he's a woman born in the wrong body and then take out gold at the Olympics in women's freestyle wrestling.
You have to draw the line somewhere.
I find it funny how everyone now suddenly cares about women but at the same time no one thinks the men would lose to transmen. Fuck your science. Women would still whip the floor with transwomen.
A bobcat is stronger than a cat but its not strong than a lion.
F+&k no and anyone who says yes doesn't play combat sports...
I do..
As long as it's within their born gender or it's an exclusively trans league.
There needs to be a separate category for trans only. Otherwise biologically women's sports will simply disappear. If these two sentences trigger you, then sue me for not being a hyper misogynist hag.
Sure. In their own category. Done.
Absolutely as their biological sex or as their own category of trans man or trans women. No reason we can't have the trans Olympics.
Yes. I’m not exactly sure how to make this fair though. Hormones definitely change the game.
Only among themselves.
little transphobic
Nope. I'm thinking of fairness. A trans can have unfair advantages.
Everyone has unfair advantages
Every athlete has advantages and disadvantages over others. I don’t think we have enough data to know if trans women would have that much more of a leg up. As opposed to rich athletes who can practice 24/7 because they don’t have to work.