When all our energy plants are either solar or nuclear, sure. But if our plants are coal fired or gas fired, we're still polluting too much and now we're asking the plants to support our driving which still uses fossil fuels.
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They don't have the range and the batteries are very expensive to replace. Because of that their resale value will not be high. If everyone went to electric vehicles just where is all this electricity going to come from seeing as hydro electric generators are shutting down because of low water levels? When on a trip where are you going to "fill up" at and how long will you be sitting there while your batteries recharge? I can't see big trucks carrying 80,000 pounds running on batteries for very far and therefore the cost of shipping will be much more expensive. In California there will be no gas vehicles by 2035. These people coming up with these laws are bonkers as they aren't giving viable alternatives to fossil fueled vehicles. They are just creating new problems.
Meh, electric cars aren't that safe compared to fuel competitors, you're driving in car with a giant battery attached to it essentially, so once you hit something you go up in flames, Sure it can happen to cars that use fuel, but the risks are 100 times greater in an electric car such as a tesla.
In my opinion Electric cars with Autopilot are just dumb, People are using it while being distracted or sleeping, which has also ended up tragically in the past...
People that praise electric cars don't understand that they are creating more harm than good for our environments, The amount of hazards that is used to mine lithium is mind-blowing, its extremely dangerous. Lithium extraction harms the soil and causes air contamination. Makes no sense to praise something as being a "better alternative", when its not...
The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water around 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium... To extract lithium, miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface. After several months the water evaporates, leaving a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool. After between 12 and 18 months of this process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted.
South America’s Lithium Triangle, which covers parts of Argentina, Bolivia and Chile, holds more than half the world’s supply of the metal beneath its salt flats. But it is also one of the driest places on earth. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, mining activities consumed 65 percent of the region’s water, which is having a large impact on local farmers to the point that some communities have to get water elsewhere.
As in Tibet, there is the potential for toxic chemicals to leak from the evaporation pools into the water supply including hydrochloric acid, which is used in the processing of lithium, and waste products that are filtered out of the brine. In Australia and North America, lithium is mined from rock using chemicals to extract it into a useful form. In Nevada, researchers found impacts on fish as far as 150 miles downstream from a lithium processing operation.
And the list goes on...I'd like them better if companies weren't going out of their way to make them hideously ugly.
Years ago, one of the Japanese brands attempted to sell electric cars that were aesthetically identical to their gas-powered counterparts, but they floundered miserably in sales. The reason was almost entirely because the people buying electric cars at the time only wanted them to virtue signal to everybody else how much they care about the environment, and the cheap and ugly look of an EV was more important to them than the electric motor itself. It still stands today that the mass majority of people buying electric cars don't know or care much about the technology, but they want to feel like they're doing their part, and want everyone else to acknowledge them for it.
The F150 isn't the worst example, but Ford deserves to go under for what they're doing to the Mustang, or rather that disgusting abomination that is carrying the Mustang name despite looking nothing like one.
By the way for what it's worth, the technology exists to keep combustion-engine cars running on a new synthetic fuel with net-zero emissions, but despite this, several western countries including the United States are looking to force non-electric vehicles into obsoletion in the next couple decades. Ironic given the heavy toll lithium mining takes on the environment to make EVs possible, but that's another topic. There's billions of dollars being passed around to make sure this happens, one way or another.No way. They don't have the range of gas-powered cars and recharging takes WAY more time than filling up a gas tank, so you are very limited on the kinds of trips you can take. Electric cars are computer controlled, overly complex, and have a bunch of computers. If there is a computer glitch, it cascades to the other computers and tells your car to stop running. Repairs are expensive.
If you run out of electricity, you can't just walk down and get a can of it to put in your car so that you can get to the gas station.
Battery power is worse for the environment than fuel-powered. Think of mining and processing the minerals for batteries. Disposal of batteries. And where does electric power ultimately come from? Fossil fuel power plants.
Electric vehicles are okay for local driving, especially if you have solar electric at your home.
I think the electric car thing is a scam. It's about corporate profit and controlling people's activities.
I'm more in favor of cars getting better gas mileage, cleaner fuel, and methods of removing emissions from car exhaust. CO2 is NOT harming the atmosphere. Our planet eats CO2. Maybe we should stop cutting down rainforests instead of blaming everyday citizens for excess CO2.Nope.
And this a golden age for electric cars right now. With electric being objectively worse than gasoline (limited range, slow charging, unproven battery lifespan, etc) the only way manufacturers can get people to buy them is by using government subsidies and their own money (since the profit margins are lower on electric cars) to lower the cost and make them competitive in other ways (eg. higher performance).
As soon as people don't have the choice of buying a gasoline fuelled vehicle any more, the subsidies will disappear, the competition will disappear, and prices will go up. People think in the future everyone will be able to replace their VW Golf with something like a Tesla - the reality is that it's more likely you'll have to replace your VW Golf with something like a shitty Nissan Leaf.Maybe down the road (pun intended) when the charging infrastructure is much bigger to support electric vehicles. In the US in 2021, there is a gas station, on average, within 10 miles of wherever you are, while there is a charging station, on average, within 50 miles.
Interesting trivia: there is no charging station between Dallas and Denver, and that distance is farther than the range of the best electric vehicle, so (until they build more charging stations), an electric vehicle cannot go from Dallas to Denver.Not really. Where is all this electricity going to come from? We have charging stations where I live, but they are not attached to solar or wind power.
Personally I could care less about them. All electric world is more harmful than fossil fuels. The harm for the environment disposing of old solar and battery packs is just as bad as nuclear waist. Plus the mining for lithium for all the batteries is worse than mining for oil. These are things they don't tell you about. I think electric is good because it gives us a choice. Balance of both will be good so there is a choice and hopefully it will keep gas and electric lower. Global warming has always been and will always be. It has occurred since the earth was conceived. Even with no people on the earth it will still happen.
I'm not not looking forward... I had a hybrid before I crashed it actually. Cool car I miss her
im looking forward to being able to afford a used mercedes eqs... they make a tesla look like an old fiesta with a tablet stuck on the dash...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/_uI_hWmVCjoi will have to stick with my old merc diesel e class for a while yet though
Nope. Nada. Never. I'm a diehard fan of the Internal Combustion Engine. You just need to hear the sound of a Turbo with no bypass valve surging and you'll never want to hear the whine of a Nissan Leaf ever again.
Also, the batteries that those stupid EVs use are about as horrendous for the environment (in both production and waste) as the fumes from Petrol.
Personally I think the future is in diesel additives, which is the less spoken alternative to Hybrids and EVsNever will, gasoline, diesel, alcohol, water and wood gas would be okay for me. Never electric
Nope still to pricy & the short range in this cold climate sucks.
They use electricity for power, in order to get the electricity, coal needs to be burned. How is that any better for the environment?
I'd rather get one that runs on water! The run-off from that engine is water which you can put right back into the tank and use again! A tank full of water can keep you on the road for weeks or months before you'd need to fill up again.Depends if I move further out from the city I work in I might get an EV for commuting. I’ll keep my gas truck for towing and trips though.
Nah, I'm more hyped about self driving cars, then I can take a nap on the way home.
Electric cars are a scam, they will never reach mass adoption. They are too expensive for many to afford, we would need twice the amount of electricity in our electric grid to handle the demand. They cause as much pollution as fossil fuel vehicles from cobalt mining, nuclear waste, Battery manufacturing and disposal. As well as depending on many countries with human rights abuses like Child slave labor.
They are not a viable alternative- s
As long as it gets me to point a and b its fine for me whether it runs electric or runs on compost lmao. I wouldn't have a clue how to fix it anyway
when i get my first car it better be electric. i know they still need to improve but i have time i'm still in school and i don't really need a car yet
Not really I like the power delivery from a good turbo petrol engine
that and noise of the engine and exhaust
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