I'm not necessarily saying that it is the fault of the Iraqi people that their nation is unstable (in fact, it's mostly the U. S.'s fault). However, that still doesn't change the fact that the nation is unstable, and I don't want to live somewhere that is unstable.
Millions? Don't you mean like, 2-5 per year? Plus, "mass shooting" is a charged term that sounds scary, but as a whole, violent crime is much more of a problem in Iraq, plus the bomb threats (from the U. S. and otherwise). Point is, you are just all-around more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in Iraq than in the U. S.
Yes, it's our fault that Iraq is a shithole. But there is no sense in denying that it's a shithole. And I don't wanna live in a shithole.
No, trust me I'm aware that the cities are different than the war-torn areas. But the fact remains that the stats are higher in Iraq than here.
And here's the definition of a "mass shooting":
"A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence." Yeah. That means an incident with as little as two victims can be (and often is) counted as a "mass shooting". It's all part of a fear campaign to push gun control. But the verdict is out, and you can find the stats anywhere, that even if you take the lowest estimates of defensive uses of guns, they still outnumber gun homicides. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the whole debate.
It depends on where in America and iraq. There are parts of America I wouldn’t live and parts of iraq I wouldn’t live
Iraq is a middle eastern country with primitive views as pretty much every 3rd world country. I wouldn't want to live there at all. Even if you have a nice house, your standard of living; living conditions are compromised and it's definitely not a country I'd want to have a family in.
Call me ignorant.
Move to a country whose main religion is Islam? No fucking thank you.
Why does it bother you if people will leave you alone? There are Christians, and atheists living there nobody really cares actually.
Uh but would they leave me alone? I don't like the Middle East, this is something I've been open about and not ashamed of for a very long time now.
Yeah they would at least in this city. Trust me I live there and you shouldn't believe everything the media shows you. The pope even came there to visit last month. He was well received. Most Middle eastern countries don't actually follow the rules of Islam actually. They just follow the parts they want to like anywhere else really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uADiUup37sw
If you say so
Yeah I have no reason to lie. There are obviously bad parts about the middle east and I have no problem with sharing them, but Erbil Iraq is one of the safest if not the safest city in Iraq. More foreigners have come there for business as well and even to tour there. You wanna avoid cities like Kirkuk, Mosul. Baghdad as there are serious terrorist's activates there especially with ISIS. Also Koya where I was born, but that's cause its just an extremely poor city with a lot of poverty.
No I would not. I don't believe the pros outweigh the cons
No I'm not... Biggest con that isn't on your list is my daughters and grandson are here, wouldn't move there... I wouldn't even move to NC when friends wanted me to come lived with them last year... My family is here... And home is where the ♥️ is
That's good! But you're not going to live there?
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I'm actually very interested in Iraq because I'm fascinated with the Babylonians and ancient Mesopotamia. I also think the food and weather are really nice and the people are good looking. I'm not brainwashed by Western media they say that China is bad and I know it's not bad.
Other parts of the Middle East that interest me are the Gulf countries like Qatar, Bahrain, and the UAE.
Yeah I think so too. What about Basra?
i liked everything until you said cockroaches. i don't do those
no. no. no. that doesn't work for me. anywhere or thing that thing touches is contaminated. i wouldn't be able to do it
scorpions are fine. they might freak me out at first until i realize they are not a roach
I would do lots of research before making such a move.
I’d start with the "Bureau of Affairs" in Washington. Etc.
If they offered me my income payments and healthcare I would do it
living in a foreign country is way different and a big change
Yeah for the most part some people know English there. I think you would do fine. Erbil is one of the richest cities. I think you would like it. Think about how easily you could fully pay for a house over there. A house like this costs $14,000
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@blondfrog That is a nice house for sure and worth $14,000
Yeah you won't find a house that nice in America for that much.
Not having electricity, tech, and internet, 24/7 is a hard pass.
Hot weather/dry/arid areas is a hard pass.
No insurance is a hard pass.
Most of the population being religious is a hard pass.
But in America you earn much more money and the American Government is less corrupt than in iraq
Sorry, bro. I wouldn't buy a house anywhere in Iraq. No offense whatsoever.
Can women even buy a house in Iraq? 🧐
Just checking. Its not so self-evident in that part of the world.
Iraq ain't exactly a beacon of civil rights and personal liberty so that'd be a no for me.
The State Religion is Islam, which in of itself is not an issue, but speaking out against or abandoning Islam in punishable by imprisonment according to Sharia Law. The U. N.'s "Declaration of Universal Civil Rights" was criticized as an affront to Islam due to Free Speech creating points of tension amongst multi-ethnic regions.
Granted Iraq has made significant strides toward civil rights in recent years but they have a long ways to yet. Maybe in another 40 years I'll visit but as of now? Not without an Armored Division and Air Support.
You didn't really read my explanation at all did you. Thats fine, this is the internet. I'm not here to change your mind. I stated my opinion. You are free to do so as well.
As an American I'm not exactly gonna win an Iraqi popularity contest. I Imagine they're still a little upset about losing twice in a row.
I bid thee adieu Monsieur.
No country fully follows sharia law and even the parts they do yeah that sucks but most people there don't care. They even have religions like Yazidis who practice weird shit like kissing the ground or door and to help keep the devil away and other weird shit. They have Christians there as well. The pope even came to visit which I am not surprised if an ignoramus like you didn't know that. There are also plenty of women who don't wear a hjab. Its also funny you are telling me that you know more than my own country. There also plenty of people who go that city who are foreigners for business. That's like me saying America follow rules of Christianity just because its a Christian majority country. I read exactly everything you said and I read it over three times over.
No, it will be too hot... I think england is too hot in the height of summer
Nah id rather pay 10 times the cost and live in America then go there lol
I wouldn't be caught dead in those backward retarded countries.
I don't know. I don't want to be around where 99% of people living there are Muslims and super conservative. Screw that.
Yeah that's called ignorance. No offense but you only know about Iraq as much as Fox news and other media sources like CBS and ABC told you. You see only Iraq when it was bombed of course its going to look terrible lol. Iraq has more religions than Islam. Also in this city at least there are quite a good amount of foreigners living there for business and just being permanent residents there. You shouldn't believe everything the media tells you. You should know better.
So why aren't you living there?
why wouldn't you live there?
I am cautious about buying a house in another state in the US because it could be vandalized or burglarized while I am not there. Do you trust that your investment will be safe in your absence?
Exactly I have thought of this too. What people do over there in that case is either have a relative look after it or as a way to benefit them le them live in it for free for exchange of keeping an eye on your house. Or if they have enough money they buy a house with security guards. This is one fear element that i do have of why I am still heisting of buying a house over there.
Glad to hear that you are thinking of that. I was tempted to buy a couple of houses in Florida but it is the same situation. Plus houses need maintenance even when they aren't being lived in. You could go to visit for a month and spend almost the whole time just fixing the house. and in the US their is property taxes
There is literally a us marine in full combat gear running by in the first picture.
m I would not move from Texas heat to Iraq heat...
I'm planning to move to way Northern territories, where it would never reach over 100F
No thank you.
No, is not the safest place in the world.
A place where I can walk safely without worrying if I may be attacked, robbed, raped.
I would have to have a really good job offer to move to Iraq.
my answer remains the same.
No, Iraq is a very dangerous country and I don’t like Islam
I would because I am happy living where I am now.
Yeah great place to live and raise a family.
Wouldn't live in iraq for any amount of money
No thank you
@blondfrog, I thought you're American lol. Since you live in erbil are you kurdish?
@Aurora1010 yeah he is Kurdish.
@Montano_lady Cool
It's mostly Arab but it has a Kurdish autonomous region with its own military
@Aurora1010 I was born there but living in us currently and yes I am.
Oh, I see
Fuck no
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