So if you or I were to move to a foreign country, do you think we would adapt the culture so quickly? No, it's a process that takes a great deal of time.
This is not about "hurr durr ur takin about wymyn's rights!!!1" this is about security, you can wear what you want as long as it does not cover up your face.
Mandating what people can and can't wear isn't modernization, it's pretty much the opposite. Like, I could maybe see the "public safety" argument, but the "modernization" or "liberty" arguments definitely not.
I'm sorry that women having the ability to remove an oppressive face covering is somehow not modern to you. Wow I didn't know I was going to meat a real misogynist today.
Right, it takes the option for Muslim men to rape them in the streets for not wearing a covering, like they do to white women. If we have to modernize every shitty old-world religion with laws then so be it, there's no liberty where there is not declaration. Liberty requires law, if you were unaware.
Wtf this is Austria we're talking about. Find me actual proof that that's even a threat there. Like, I came from a town with a huge Muslim population, and that certainly wasn't anywhere near a credible threat there.
Oh - I thought you had lived in a European country before? You talk as though you understand the depth of the issue, when, as with most Americans on foreign affairs, you're completely clueless.
I lived in France when I was younger and watched as more and more muslims filled into the projects in town, stole from us, our insurance rates went up, they're wives were property, rule of law was second, the women were prevented from talking and suddenly the papers complained of sexual assault cases we hadn't seen, Jews were harassed, churches closed, they'd scream from their rooftops at prayer time and make an extraordinary amount of noise.
So there's qualitative, and quantitative info there for ya. If you weren't aware of any of that, please refrain from voting.
As a Muslim I have to say that in my religion you dont have to cover your face hands foot etc.. There is no force like that it is traditional not religious
Yup. Let's just take a woman's right to dress as she pleases because of our ignorance and fear of their religion and culture. After all, deciding what women should and shouldn't be able to do is what men do best right?
@FroggyDoggy96 yea but what if i wore a burqa then killed a bunch of people? Its illegal to conceal your face because of security reasons. but people can start doing it and hide behind the "religion card". not safe
@Mr-Kabuki where do we draw the line for prevention? This is being implemented even though there isn't suffecient evidence to prove that the veils are being used for terrorism purposes. "Anyone who sacrifices freedom for security, deserves neither" - Benjamin Franklin
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I agree with the ban. Fucking assimilate or get the fuck out.
Muslims are worse than roaches anyway. If people move to a different country they should adapt to that country's culture and not vice versa.
So if you or I were to move to a foreign country, do you think we would adapt the culture so quickly? No, it's a process that takes a great deal of time.
is anyone else getting some weird symbols across the quote?
Yup!
Good. They shouldn't be able to conceal their faces in public.
Well I can't say I believe Islam to be the true faith, but Muslims have rights too.
Thank you
I just realized I can be a ninja in public and blame it on Islam! !! Wow I wish I thought of that as a teenager.
thats cause england is forward thinking, many of our european allies are still relatively backwards thinking
Yup, taking away people's rights is forward thinking.
Especially women's rights at that.
@FroggyDoggy96 If it's supposed to be your right to wear that clothing in public, then why can't you wear nothing at all? It's your right, right?
you should be able to wear whatever you want. that's a civil liberty that people try to take away, because they're fear mongering
such as trump, and that idiot, bannon
@baakkmn Right to wear clothing, not right to nudity.
This is not about "hurr durr ur takin about wymyn's rights!!!1" this is about security, you can wear what you want as long as it does not cover up your face.
Austria once again cementing it's position as one of the best countries to live in.
Well, it's probably a good thing.
Yeah looks like France and Austria lead the charge for modernization.
Mandating what people can and can't wear isn't modernization, it's pretty much the opposite. Like, I could maybe see the "public safety" argument, but the "modernization" or "liberty" arguments definitely not.
@cipher42
I'm sorry that women having the ability to remove an oppressive face covering is somehow not modern to you. Wow I didn't know I was going to meat a real misogynist today.
Lmao it's not giving them the ability to remove the face covering, it's forcing them to. It doesn't give them choice, it takes it away.
@cipher42
Right, it takes the option for Muslim men to rape them in the streets for not wearing a covering, like they do to white women. If we have to modernize every shitty old-world religion with laws then so be it, there's no liberty where there is not declaration. Liberty requires law, if you were unaware.
Wtf this is Austria we're talking about. Find me actual proof that that's even a threat there. Like, I came from a town with a huge Muslim population, and that certainly wasn't anywhere near a credible threat there.
@cipher42
Oh - I thought you had lived in a European country before? You talk as though you understand the depth of the issue, when, as with most Americans on foreign affairs, you're completely clueless.
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I lived in France when I was younger and watched as more and more muslims filled into the projects in town, stole from us, our insurance rates went up, they're wives were property, rule of law was second, the women were prevented from talking and suddenly the papers complained of sexual assault cases we hadn't seen, Jews were harassed, churches closed, they'd scream from their rooftops at prayer time and make an extraordinary amount of noise.
So there's qualitative, and quantitative info there for ya. If you weren't aware of any of that, please refrain from voting.
They need to get these damn Muslims a science book and some LSD
As a Muslim I have to say that in my religion you dont have to cover your face hands foot etc..
There is no force like that it is traditional not religious
I'm a Muslim but i dont cover my hair too so not all muslims like that as I said these clothes are related with their culture not religion
Sounds like a very positive approach
About time.
Yup. Let's just take a woman's right to dress as she pleases because of our ignorance and fear of their religion and culture. After all, deciding what women should and shouldn't be able to do is what men do best right?
@FroggyDoggy96 it's about not being able to completely cover up the face.
@FroggyDoggy96 yea but what if i wore a burqa then killed a bunch of people? Its illegal to conceal your face because of security reasons. but people can start doing it and hide behind the "religion card". not safe
@Mr-Kabuki Discrimination without any such event occurring.
@FroggyDoggy96 its called prevention
@Mr-Kabuki where do we draw the line for prevention? This is being implemented even though there isn't suffecient evidence to prove that the veils are being used for terrorism purposes. "Anyone who sacrifices freedom for security, deserves neither" - Benjamin Franklin
where is equality?
One could argue that equality is everyone looking the same... and everyone being recognizable when outside - in the world.
That's totalitarianism, not the equality she's talking about.
I think people must be free to wear whatever they want