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Are you kidding? Seriously? She took that damn part because it's a freakin paycheck for her and a BIG one too. All these liberals (and you can toss in feminists too), are just as capitalistic as conservatives. To them, if they have the $$, they could care less about any cause. Sure, they'll yap about this or that (Madonna, Ashley Judd), but in the end, they just want the money so they can live how they feel like.
AL Gore is a classic example of this - yaps all the time about how we should save the environment and crap, yet he lives in a 20,000 square foot home, drives SUV's everywhere he goes, and flies on private jets to attend environmental rallies, complaining about how we're polluting the planet.
Emma Watson is no different. She's all about the money and publicity. She claims to be about feminist causes, yet she'll portray any character on screen as long as they pay her.42
I don’t think so, she expresses feminism and how she supports it in the Vanity Fair photo because she is okay with showing her cleavage, which shouldn’t be a problem to show anyways yet it’s still sexualized, and because Beauty and the Beast is about how looks don’t matter, she was able to make him fall for her and crack his mean shell and she realized how sweet he was, and she fell in love. In my opinion.0
No, feminism is gender equality and the thought that women are free to express themselves in any way without being torn down by others.1
You have got to be the most oblivious person ever. It’s like you just consistently miss the point of everything.0
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She's young and she is finding her way, expressing views that feel important to her. Getting everything right is not an expectation that any of us live by. We all do some dumb ass things in our lives that may not be consistent with our core beliefs of ourselves. I would say cut her some slack. I don't think that having to bare your chest for the media is empowerment, I think it is pandering to the kind of culture that a feminist would want to change. However, I believe that too many people are jumping on her just to score a point against feminism, which is a popular thing to do at the moment.
Would this one photo shoot negate everything else she has done and might do towards feminist goals? No, not at all. We all have moments of hypocrisy as we grow up because our views on all things are refined through experience and education.20
I'm still trying to figure out how people think it was okay for her to have money stored in certain off-shore accounts to avoid paying taxes, but the people shit a brick about others that had their money in the same places. Apparently if you're a hypocrite spokesperson for feminism, you get a pass on everything. So this is no surprise.21
So the lesson should have been, looks are all that matters, like in other Disney films? Remember CInderella's ugly stepsisters?
Perhaps you would prefer she had gone for Gaston...1
I think one of the points of feminism is about having a choice. - and i believe she chose to do the photoshoot and to star in that movie.2
Not really. Feminism is about equality and choice. A woman can be feminist and choose to cover up to any degree she is comfortable with. A woman can be feminist and choose any role she wants in a relationship, from dominant to submissive.0
I doubt it maybe she's just expressing whatever emotions she's feeling or trying to make a statement about this or that or women rights and nuclear weapons and arms dealing or the drug wars0
Yawn, these questions on feminism are getting boring and old.
She is making money tho! I don't think she really cares.10
Ugly feminists are jealous.0
Idgaf she's a babe she has my support regardless10
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Beauty and the Beast was the cartoon equivalent of Stockholm syndrome and marriage by abduction not exactly feminist approved'
You should read the original work, its better in that respect but also manages to be way more fucked up
Amanda Palmer is a feminist and she stripped naked on stage singing a song she wrote called dear daily mail after their review of her in the glastonbury music festival was entirely about her nip slip instead of her music (and she's a damn good musician) I'll post the lyrics and story here
dear daily mail,
it has come to my recent attention
that me recent appearance at glastonbury festivals kindly received a mention
i was doing a number of things on that stage up to and including singing songs (like you do…)
but you chose to ignore that and instead you published a feature review of my boob
dear daily mail,
there’s a thing called a search engine: use it!
if you’d googled my tits in advance you’d have found that your photos are hardly exclusive
in addition you state that my breast had escaped from my bra like a thief on the run
you do you know that it wasn’t attempting to just take in the RARE British sun?
dear daily mail,
it’s so sad what you tabloids are doing
your focus on debasing women’s appearances ruins our species of humans
but a rag is a rag and far be it from me to go censoring anyone OH NO
it appears that my entire body is currently trying to escape this kimono….
dear daily mail,
you misogynist pile of twats
i’m tired of these baby bumps, vadge flashes, muffintops
where are the newsworthy COCKS?
if iggy or jagger or bowie go topless the news barely causes a ripple
blah blah blah feminist blah blah blah gender shit blah blah blah
OH MY GOD NIPPLE
dear daily mail,
you will never write about this night
i know that because i’ve addressed you directly i’ve made myself no fun to fight
but thanks to the internet people all over the world can enjoy this discourse
and commune with a roomful of people in london who aren’t drinking kool-aid like yours
and though there be millions of people who’ll accept the cultural bar where you have it at
there are plenty of others who’re perfectly willing to see breasts in their natural habitat
i keenly anticipate your highly literate coverage of upcoming tours
dear daily mail,
I'd post the video but she's naked in it, she's also fully naked in another one of her music videos
Sounds like she was doing it for shock and awe publicity just like modern pop stars to draw attention away from crap music or like how modern day celebrities leak their own nude pics so as to get a mention in the news. Ahhh showbiz
actually she did it to show how stupid the daily mail was being she fought the daily mail and won,
She's also legitimately talented,
Beware LOTS of fake blood
she's also not a huge name (her husband is for something completely different, she's married to Neil Gaiman)
of course the most fucked up of the original fairy tales at least to me has to be snow white, the prince doesn't think she's in a coma when he falls in love with her, he THINKS SHE'S FUCKING DEAD!
Yeah in the original snow white fairy tale, prince charming is a necrophiliac
Your definition of talent and mine are different lol
Sorry but that's how publicity works especially these days, over dramatic, over the top, hyped up beef. The daily mail never batted an eyelid and their readers still bought the paper. I don't doubt that feminist college students ran out to buy her album in droves to show how edgy they are and to support a strong empowered female who "stuck it to the man/patriarchy". The record companies know what buttons to push and it's all been done before.
Cinderella is probably most applicable to modern women if you think about it.
' I don't doubt that feminist college students ran out to buy her album in droves to show how edgy they are and to support a strong empowered female who "stuck it to the man/patriarchy". The record companies know what buttons to push and it's all been done before.'
She's an Indie Punk/ Dark Cabaret musician.
She is literally the definition of small indie music.
Money's not an issue, she's married to freaking Neil Gaiman, Author of American Gods, Coraline, Anansi Boys, the only decent comics to come out in the 90s, stardust,
do you know the original story of Cinderella?
Cause that ones fucked up too
"Indie" has been mainstream since the mid 90's
the younger sisters are so desperate they take a knife to their foot to try to cut off their heels to fit in the shoe but the prince sees the blood in the glass slipper and, I can't remember, either they suffer some horrible magical fate worse than death, or they die, or are made slaves
Indie pop, she's dark caberat and punk rock, neither which sells very well at all,
You'll also never hear her songs on the radio either
Indie is just another label for the masses to buy into and if she wasn't popular before it's obvious that the naked song to the daily mail was a publicity stunt that the plebs would eat up.
To get to the ball, Cinderella is endowed by her fairy godmother—i. e. by magic—with all the exterior trappings, allure, and clothing needed to catch the attentions of the prince. In Disney’s film the fairy godmother is a fat old babuschka, implying the wisdom of older women is what transforms Cinderella. But the magic that makes Cinderella into a beautiful princess is not wisdom or fairy dust. It’s a metaphor for something far more powerful and primal: the magic of a young woman reaching adulthood and the peak of her sexual attractiveness, at age 18-25.
As all men know, this attractiveness is godlike in its potency. In the Cinderella story, the magic is powerful enough to arrest the prince’s mind at first sight; powerful enough to make him search his entire realm to find her. In the real world, sexual attractiveness has brought down governments, as well as inspired most modern music. Cinderella’s stepmother and stepsisters (all significantly older than her) cannot achieve it despite all the artifice of poise and finely-tailored clothing (and, perhaps, three years in a Gender Studies degree). A woman’s sex appeal is magic that runs out. This is the most important part of the story: the magic that transforms Cinderella is strictly limited by time. At midnight, Cinderella is returned to rags. In real life, around age 30, women’s physical attractiveness tanks. In both cases, the magic is gone, forever.
You really should read the original stuff,
Also ever read irish lore?
Never trust a faerie, they are more likely to be a horrific serial killer than a wish granting genie figure
Women don’t realize the magic is running out until it’s too late. Cinderella is too swept up in the prince’s eyes and the glamour of the ball to notice the passing of time. Consequently she is caught out by the clock chiming midnight and has to flee for home, panicking at the loss of her glamours.
Women—especially when feminism dishonestly presents natural childbearing as practical or possible past forty—also don’t hear the clock chiming midnight. They, too, are too swept up in a different diversion: typically, riding the cock carousel through their most fertile years. Such women invariably are the ones bitterly complaining they are invisible to men and bitterly regretting their empty wombs when they’ve turned 40.
When the magic fades, it spares one thing: Cinderella’s glass slippers. This seems to be a plot hole given the rules of magic in the story, but makes sense symbolically. Leave aside the sexual subtext of the prince’s servants going around his entire kingdom “trying on” every maiden to see if the slipper fits: the glass slipper is a potent symbols of fertility, good genes, good breeding.
A slipper made of glass is beautiful but delicate – one false step, one heavy footfall, and it shatters, irreplaceable. Is childhood any less delicate, any more replaceable? And the slippers also symbolize Cinderella’s youthful beauty: again, irreplaceable, gone with one false step, one descent into slutdom. The slippers are symbols of the prince and Cinderella’s children to be.
A wise prince understands he is the prize. Cinderella’s prince embodies traditional masculinity. Despite the pressure from his family and society at large to marry, the Prince refuses to settle for just any girl: no stepmothers or stepsisters for him. He settles only for a girl that he deems worthy, even if he has to turn over the whole kingdom looking for her.
Men in the West have, to their disgrace, reversed this situation. Women ride the cock carousel on the (in many cases justified) expectation that some thirsty sucker will be picking them up after they choose to get off the ride. Women are permitted to “wait” for their “soulmate”; men are permitted to settle. The prince, then, embodies good advice for men: screw who you will on a casual basis, but be selective and be careful who you marry or live with. Because the wrong choice will fuck you up six ways to Sunday and ruin your whole kingdom.
On the other hand, if you do manage to identify a woman who’s at peak sexual attractiveness and has a good character, the prince has good counsel as well: move mountains to wife that shit up, because such a woman is rare if not extinct, maybe only one in the entire realm, and there’s a godawfully big pack of ugly stepsisters out there looking to snare you.
A good myth, like any good story, teaches us things about human nature without us realizing it. Myth, therefore, is worth seeking out; worth reading; worth contemplating. Never doubt that myth is under attack from vested interests, especially in the modern era. Consider the sterility and destructive themes of Frozen as compared to its parent fable, The Snow Queen.
Cinderella, fortunately, endures. The story has come under revisionist attack over the years, but none of these pale, ungrateful versions have persisted in the public mind or overturned its lessons. Even as late as 2015, Hollywood still had sufficient courage to produce the story essentially unchanged from the 1950 version, with all of these messages intact.
Fairies only fuck your shut up if you mess with them. There's plenty of folklore out there like the "old hag" , the banshee, the 3 knocks, the shadow men. Here's some advice never mess with a quiji board, go to medium or fortune teller, never move an old mirror/picture/bible that's in a roofspace or basement in an old house.
then there is the redcap, the kelpie, the leanansidhe
Again Cindarella has not endured, none of the original tales have.