It really IS The New Religion For Atheists.
The climate has indeed always been changing. BUT climatologists have studied what caused climate change in the past and nothing that has driven warming in the past can explain what's happening now except the rapid input of greenhouse gasses.
@Erellvy Pissy puss, aren’t you? You’re a good example of immaturity at it’s finest. Chill girl. You don’t have to be mad at everything you read here.
I'll give you credit for your courage to speak your mind with reckless regard despite the name-calling. You have the right to express yourself however you see fit just as much as I have the right to post a poll in whatever way I want. We've come to the right place for that. For the record, I never lie about my age.
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nothing to do with it
By the way, remember when Polar Bears were going extinct, rather than romping through Churchill and other northern Canada towns like they always have? Good times!
Damn, I haven't heard acid rain brought up since the 80s.
I haven't acid rain in awhile too.
The only one who complained about acid rain was Canada , I would have sent them more
And what that has driven warming in the past is driving it now? Because if you can't identify it then this whole "climate has always been changing argument" is just a cop out.
Im far more concerned about those first few things you mentioned. Those are things we can quantify and control. Let's focus on fixing the things we can control. We can clean up water to an extent, plant trees and find alternatives to using wood (in many cases), and many companies are already collecting and recycling much of their waste and by products. Im a machinist, and every company I've worked at collects and recycles waste oil, cutting fluid (often called coolant), and the material left over after cutting parts (chips).
@Sixgun77 - Look what Asia is doing: Indonesia uses dynamite to fish, in the process 40% of the kill is too young to use and the coral reefs are damaged. Indonesia’s coral reefs are the worlds fish hatchery when they are gone so are the fish…what does the UN do? NOTHING …. Indonesia burns its forest once a year before planning…. It destroys the soil, sends smoke so that in Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar the people need ware gas masks and causes respiratory problems. Indonesia, Thailand, China, Vietnam, Myanmar and Laos us the oceans as a trach been dumping into them their raw waste materials. (2018 figures) As for air Pollution Mongolia #1, Myanmar #2, Afghanistan #3, Bangladesh #4, Lebanon #5, Nigeria #6, Vietnam is #7, Egypt #8, Nepal #9 and Monaco #10. China comes in #12, the first civilized country is South Korea at #64, France is the first Western country at #77, the USA is #86. All of this to say yes there are issues, but its not the civilized countries that are causing the them. When I visit Beijing, my daughter meets me at the airport with a gasmask, one that I used when I was in the military where we had to go into the gas chamber in our practices.
Im not disagreeing with any of that, since I only know about my experiences in the United states. Those nations you mention need to work on curbing those practices. I may not be wording things properly but I'm definitely on the same page as you.
Then you don't understand the science?
The world is a lot warmer than normal LOL.
You should be concerned since you will suffer the most, and a young girl. The result of climate change is extreme weather, causing many natural disasters like flooding, volcano eruption, earthquakes etc..If you don't think increased extreme weather is a problem, then you are truly ignorant.
@smølf I'm not a scientist but if climate change is happening then the damage is already done. Extreme weather is nothing new, it happens. Weather is not constant and neither is climate.
@Littlewife you are right about it about it happening and the damage is already done.You should be worried though since it increases extreme weather, it will be more often and more extreme than in any other time period in human history, and more importantly in our lifetime. It has been going on for more than 40 years as it is, and will get rapidly worse over the next two decades. It will notice and feel the difference before your 40th birthday.It is that fast. Had it been in a 100 years, then who cares, but it's in our lifetime so it matters to us.When I say worry, I don't mean cry at home and do nothing else. I mean take precautions, have insurance coverage, don't buy a house at the cost lines etc..
@smølf well it's too early to predict and the extreme weather you speak off is not so extreme. If the damage is done then no need to worry as there's nothing more we can do.Scientists still can't decide if climate change means global warming of another ice age.
@Littlewife Not true at all, we know the end result. All the Co2 from oil, gas, and coal is from the age of the dinosaurs. If fully released we will get the same climate as they had.Globally temperated zone without icy poles. The predictions are based on the past and our knowledge, so it's not way too early. The is no bases for an ice age.The majority of scientists can decide, and this is what matters. But no matter, you've realized this in time.
@smølf why would she be concerned? She can't do anything about it, I can't do anything about it, and obviously the scientists can't either. Sorry bro. If we're done we're done. Not saying climate change isn't real but there's no solution. Earth is meant to get warmer. We're just speeding it up is all. I don't worry about things I can't control. Neither should you or anyone else. This question is just ridiculous anymore...
@roaring20sman If you are not concerned, you won't change behaviour.We all need to change behaviour to minimize the change. We can all do our little part and combined it makes a difference.So you are wrong, hands down.
@smølf actually I'm not wrong. There are almost 10 billion people on this earth. Not everyone is going to stop what they're doing right now to address climate change. Sorry but it's true. People have their own lives to live. Most would rather not spend their lives worrying about something they have NO CONTROL over. If you have the time, money, and resources to spend your life working on climate change then more power to you. Most of us though have our own issues and concerns that far outweigh climate change. As I said before though. If you have the time, money, and resources to make a difference then be that difference you want to see in the world.
To stop using electricity I mean.
The cliamte has always been changing it but seeing as how we've driven the recent warming trend there is also steps we can take to stop it.
They had to try something else once their campaign to put pee pee in our coke failed miserably.
sure it was not Russia?
Tell that to the people in the developing world who are experiencing the worst effects of it.
@Ad_Quid_Orator I would but that would be lying.
And scientists have studied what has driven these temperature fluctuations in the past and identified what caused them. And nothing that has driven climate change in the past besides the emission of greenhouse gases can explain the current temperature anomaly. Here's an equation for you: "Climate has always been changing" - *explanation of what driver of climate change in the past is driving it now = cop out.
In 20 years the damage may reach the point of being irreversible but we would probably have a few more years before natural resources become scarce enough to bring an end to civilization. It's a grim outlook either way unless we make some changes soon.
Point of no return was around '73... we are already at the end...The ecosystem was a function perpetual motion but over 65% of plants and animals are extinct in the last 80 years... pls explain after whats its called irreversible...Problem for me is, most bigger projects, since ever, try to find a solution for the endproduct of the problem, but mostly never even try to find a solution for the cause of the problem...The resources are not the problem in my eyes, the problem are the people who dont care + give a fuck about nature... like politics and greedy companies...
Greed certainly is very destructive.
ExactlyLike everytime you see something to buy very cheap, the nature is it who pays the price...
Yes, having the polar ice caps melt, forcing a climate shift that brings about an "ice age" can happen naturally. But do we really want to accelerate that process?
@WalterBlack But who says we are accelarating it?
This "it's a natural" process argument is just a cop out.
@PsychoKiller The vast majority of scientists say that we are accelerating it. I remember a survey that said something like 80% of all scientists and over 90% of climate scientists agree that humans are contributing to global warming.
It's already too late man. Not to mention the earth is meant to heat up. We're just speeding it up. Sorry but there is no solution. If we're done we're done.
It's still worth a try instead of speeding up our room. Would you rather die tomorrow, or in 50 years?
@TsubasaCorrupted we're not all going to die. Not to mention does it really matter? I'll be dead. Meaning it doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong. Climate change is real. Problem is there's no solution, doesn't seem to be one in the near distant future, and it's really pointless if everything is going to die in about 10 years anyways. (According to these scientists)
by the way, yes, I am concerned.
Actually , the temps are supposed to go down. So July will be in 80's , not 90 to 100 degrees. January will be 0 to 15 instead of 35 to 40 degrees.
Who is the person who didn't like?