As you know Queen Elizabeth passed away yesterday (09/08/2022) and her son Charles has succeeded as king. But he is 73 years old. Do you think acceding to the throne at the age of 73 is good or bad for the public?
In fairness, only time will tell. However, based on King Charles' conduct in the initial days of his reign, the auguries are promising.
King Charles will bring to the throne the benefits of continuity. This not only in the sense that he represents a continuation of the royal line, this rooting Britain in its' history in a most direct and personal way, but also in that the benefits of his age will tend to give him a greater sense of history.
For King Charles, the history of his mother's reign is not just something he read about in a book or is growing up with. Rather it is something he has experienced over many years. Thus he is apt, at an almost intuitive level, to conduct himself with a balance between tradition and innovation that will suit both the monarchy as an institution and the British state overall.
The latter being particularly important as the UK is undergoing, at this time, much economic, political and indeed social and cultural upheaval. In such circumstances, people most need a link to what they have been and to what made them what they are. Indeed, when that sense of cultural continuity is lost, that is when the greatest upheavals and even crimes are apt to occur.
As Jospeh de Maistre put it, "The first and perhaps the only source of all the evils we experience is contempt for antiquity, or, what amounts to the same thing, contempt for experience: while there is no is nothing better than what is proven. The laziness and arrogant ignorance of this century cope much better with theories that cost nothing and flatter pride, than lessons in moderation and obedience that must be painfully asked of history. In all sciences, but especially in politics, the many and obscure events of which are so difficult to grasp as a whole, theory almost always is contradicted by experience." Suffice to say that this is a failing that a 73 year old man is not apt to indulge in.
To be sure, King Charles, as Prince of Wales, often articulated controversial views that would tend to divide. However, even in these early days the evidence suggests - as he has spoken with temperance and compassion to his people - that Charles understands the difference, both moral and practical, between being heir to the throne and wearing the Crown.
Even then, it is to be added that he is free to express his views, in full privacy, to the Prime Minister of the day. It being recalled that in his seminal work on Britain's "unwritten constitution," Walter Bagehot had said that it was among the duties of the monarch to "advise, guide and warn" the Prime Minister. There being an advantage to being a figure above and outside of politics and thus not subject to its' daily pressures in the same way that a Prime Minister would be.
Thus, if he wishes, King Charles will have a venue to proffer advice and express his opinions - and a not inconsiderable one at that. This having the advantage of being able to bring to the table a lifetime of public service that no elected public official can equal. It being further added that, unlike with a young monarch, this will be wisdom gathered over decades.
By no means does this ensure that King Charles will always put a foot right and offer good advice, nor that the Prime Minister of the day will take that advice. Rather, the point is that, on balance, and this is a matter of weighing the pros and the cons and taking into account that even the King, at the end of the day, is an imperfect human being, the public is apt to benefit from the long life and experience of King Charles.
It being also recalled that those who tend to reject such experience as "the dead hand of the past" are prone to the greatest hubris. Such a man or woman is, as someone once said, "A self-made man who worships his creator." There being too many of those at this moment in Western history.
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+1 yno it won't benefit the public. but that has nothing to do with his experience or his person at all. he really doesn't have a big influence. i mean the king has veto rights and can dissolve the pairlament and the government. but that doesn't normally happen and the laws and decisions on policies are made there, not by the king himself. The king is more a representant. less a decision maker. the problem with having a new king is that it's expensive. new currency has to be created and printed. new postal stamps. and the entire bureaucratic bullshit around changing the royal will cost the country a few billions. so they'll spend billions for something that the population really doesn't get anything for in return besides a new face on their money.
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Yeah, although I don't believe in 'monarchy' its a made up archaic philosophy... I do think that the monarchy brings in a ton of revenue and perceived prestige across the world. Even if it is a f*cked up concept. If I were britain I would probably want to keep it... but maybe they should get rid of it? Its so dumb. I also don't like how Meghan Markle seems to monetize and exploit her status. She still uses 'Duchess'... but trashes the same institution that "gave" her that title. Its obvious she cares a lot about status. America does not have royalty and quite frankly, the fact that she still flaunts that here is telling. I kind of hope Charles doesn't reward her by giving her kids titles. We don't hear the end about "America's prince and princess". So obnoxious.
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He’s becoming king at 73 because it was his mothers choice not to give up the crown until her last breath, and he knows this.
He’s spent his life preparing for this moment and will dedicate himself to the role in honour of his mother for as long as he is able to.00 Reply
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+1 yIt's good to continue the monarchy with peaceful change but Charles is not Elizabeth. He will have a difficult time following in her legacy. I also find it interesting that Queen Elizabeth, in planning for her death, has put a time limit on Charles' reign... when he turns 80, he is to abdicate to his son William.
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She did? 😳 I wonder why
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@Literalbillionaire17 I wonder if. Also, he's King now, no need to answer to anyone (also no passport, driver's licence, etc.).
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@goaded That fucker with the cameras documenting everything was acting as if he needed people to scram the documents for signing. Take the papers, and sign them, move them yourself, but do nobility like to wipe their own ass? No, they don't. It's in their blood. It was once a position of GREATNESS in the 1500's, to wipe the Kings Ass Hole. Because you had great conversations with the ALMIGHTY. Biden can't wipe his own ass hole is in this current day and age, because he's the most popular Prez of all times, you can't question it! Jill must wipe it. And we know damn well his dementia riddled brain of Swiss cheese can't do it, and he's wearing Depends. Or "Oops I shit my pants" adult diapers.
442 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. Absolutely. Why? Because Charles is very astute and passionate about environmental causes and I suspect that he will make the remainder of his life's work as King Charles III be toward doing what he can to help protect our species and our planet from the peril it faces. Being King, not only does he put a more public face on the issue, but he can perhaps actually do something about it.
01 ReplyNo lets retire monarchy to the history books, UK can function as today without it. And when our Swedish king either die or retire we should do the same. Just remove that relic system from our country. And go ahead as it is, no need for presidents, we shouldn't have a singel person in charge of the whole country. We should have a whole range of experts.
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+1 ywhat good is the throne anyway? These ideas are relics of a by gone era. But maybe he can provide a good model through william and kate for others to follow... traditional families. that's what they are... demonstrating what other people could be like if they decided to develop some class and standards. right?
00 Reply The thing is he's pretty vocal about how he wants to change things but he'll find out that in reality he has no power and is just there for tourism reasons and making out country look powerful.
But if he does try to change things he's just gonna be a problem for everyone. His views aren't exactly helpful.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 ywell, no because Charles is SATAN! lol. He's involved in all kinds of "new world order" sh*t and that's not good for anybody. But strictly going on the age thing, I don't think that matters. I'm actually tired of people saying it should be the young people in charge.
The "young people" can't define what a woman is, sometimes identify as random household objects depending on the day and their mood, believe climate change and socialist propaganda from mega rich people flying around the world on private jets, who own more houses than we do pairs of underwear, and continue to show a belief that physical violence is an acceptable solution to disagreeing with someone's beliefs.
That being said, I'm a big fan of William and Kate. I think they'll actually do well when it's William's turn to sit on the "iron throne". 😁
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWhy would his age be a bad thing? It's not like he has to perform any physical feats or something. He has been part of the royal family since birth, so he knows what's up. He has the advantage of many years' of experience and the wisdom that comes with it. He's still 20+ years younger that the queen when she passed. He'll be fine.
10 ReplyIs it good for the British public? Despite a bad start with Dianna/Camilla there is no reason he cannot connect with the British public and hence be good for the public.
As for retiring, well British Monarchs don't.00 Reply- 454 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
+1 yHis Mom was 23 years older, and no one saw an issue with that.
Unlike some other ''new'' monarchs (so-me-whe-re else in the world), Charles is a man everyone can respect.
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+1 yYou know, if they had just LET Charles marry Camilla back in 1972 or so like he originally wanted, the Royals could have saved themselves a lot of grief.
00 ReplyCharles is a prominent member of the anti-human global elite who want to exterminate all but 500 million of the population of the planet.
Charles is raving mad, which is not uncommon among European monarchs due to close breeding.
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u +1 yThe Queen served for 23 additional years after reaching the age of 73, so that is not too old for the position. Charles becoming King is probably a better option than William.
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+1 yThey don't do anything anyway, you have parliament that takes care of the laws. They're just a figurehead. For some reason people idolize them. Bunch of rich fucks that have no power
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In Canada it go through the house then the senate then the king to finally pass a law
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But I'm assuming they're referring to the UK since it was their queen that passed away
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Why do people think she was only their queen She was my queen also Queen Elizebeth and now King Charles III is the King of England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and 11 other nations
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Ignorance I guess, I had no idea
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Officially he is the King of the Commonwealth
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actually they do have power but queen elizabeth II made it a point of the importance of palace neutrality in politics. So she managed to save the monarchy from abolition by enforcing a strict policy of neutrality, however this was not always the case; as in case with Charles the II that dissolved parliament to get money and King William IV who forced lord melbourne to resign because of polarized politics at the time.
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Does it even matter? It's a ceremonial role. Honestly with this government it would probably be better for the UK if they actually had a queen/king again :D
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+1 yCan't retire. He's the king until he dies at best his son can be regent. He's actually done quite well as Prince of Wales built himself a kingdom within a kingdom
00 ReplyHe understands the role and will take it seriously. And in only a few years will hand over to William.
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+1 yJust feel like there’s a lot of arguments about him due to Diana’s death and a lot of people believe he was behind it so he doesn’t have much of Britains support.
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I remember what happened and people tend to blame diana but charles was in love with camilla and he refused to give up on her even when he was married to Diana and she was married with kids to her husband.
+1 yI believe he'll lead the UK and the commonwealth into great success! He is the future of the country now!
00 ReplyProbably not. The problem isn't Charles himself, but the fact that the Monarchy is still even in existence. He will have no real power anyway.
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+1 yOh sure, the old bag at 96 was doing just fine but now Charles at 23 years younger should retire? Impeccable logic.
10 ReplyGovernments spend hundreds of millions of tax payers money on one family, no one bats an eye.
Governments spend hundreds of millions if not billions to welfare, to keep poor people alive, everyone looses their minds.05 Reply
+1 yShould of gave up the throne and handed it to William
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+1 yAge, by itself, is not the problem. Elizabeth II was 96 and more lucid than Joe Biden. But, combined with age, Charles has the charisma of a dish rag.
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Camelia says that he's a dick like a firehose
what good did the Queen do for the public from age 25 to 96?
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yNot many people like him cos of what he did to princess Diana. Such a twat.
He doesn't have a good reputation.
I think prince William would be a better choice...00 Replyhaha good question... how will he benefit us? tell me...
00 ReplyWasn't he married to Dianna? Because I know that guy was a shit bag.
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Queen Elizabeth passed away?
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You say no proper evidence... of course if eye witnesses get murdered and then the media companies OWNED BY THE SAME CRIMINALS pretend to debunk it.
Look at this thread, the original is deleted... I wonder why it was censored. But I got the cache...
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNo idea but I feel he will feel the pressure from the public to hand over the throne to William. There is already people saying it should be William who is king.
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+1 yThe Royal family doesn't run the country, parliament and the house does. The royal family is basically figure heads.
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+1 yI guess it's tradition, it's not like a Roman republic, or you have rival houses starting wars to secure the throne for their own interests. He might only rule for a decade.
00 ReplyHis ability is irrelevant, his coronation will draw tourism from across the globe. Any British person selling items to tourists will make a fortune.
01 ReplyQueen Elizabeth III made it to age 93 I'm pretty sure she was doing okay at the age of 73
11 Replyif King Charles retires, who will be King? (sorry don't know much about it)
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@anylolone Tend to agree. I genuinely thought Charles was going to decline the role yesterday. William far more in touch with today's world.
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@PeteBy That wouldn't be my reason. Charles probably is way more in touch as he actually performed the functions...
But willian wouldn't ascend in a vacuum, he would take heed of dad's wisdom.
After all, elizabeth did. She talked a lot with her seniors in her prime years, and she had the wisdom of favoring corgies.
the role is just ceremonial
it doesn't change anything
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+1 yI don't understand your logic. The queen reigned for another 23 years after she turned 73. Why is it now an issue that Charles reigns at 73?
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+1 yWow. Give the guy a break. He just became King yesterday.
10 Reply869 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. Those don’t mean anything those titles it’s comical now at 73 he’s a king instead of a prince
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+1 yHow stupid are you? The royal family has literally no say in politics. Their presence is a money sink (and a tourist attraction maybe) for the UK. That's all.
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+1 yI am an American so the whole royalty thing is confusing to me anyway.
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+1 yWell, he's gotta be in his 70's, how much longer is HE gonna last?
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+1 yIt’s not going to be good. Hopefully he’ll be dead soon.
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+1 yHe was waiting for long time to wear the crown...
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+1 ythey should quit commonwealth, now is the chance. Its outdated, we ain't in colonial times anymore
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+1 yno, but then again he could be one of england's greatest monarch's; however he has proven time and again he is a wimp.
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+1 yHe's too long. I give him 20 years max. He won't become an icon like his mother
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I’m all for tradition, rules and protocol but they need fresh blood and Prince William is a good man and has an impressive resume00 Reply
+1 yNow that I think about it, it’s depressing as F she never got the chance to watch Season 05 of Cobra Kai
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+1 yDoesn't matter - he's already there.
If past record is any indicator, he won't be there long - especially w/o scandal.00 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)+1 yWhy having king and queen? why do people love that people? is non sense
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yDudes just a transition King. Gonna be dead in a decade and Wiliam will be King for a few decades.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yAs I understand it he's not really suppose to do anything at all.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo, he might try to get rid of feminism. I dont think that's good.
00 ReplyI am not certain, but his speech was epic, which pleasantly surprised me.
00 ReplyAll we can do is wait and see, we will not know for at least a year, maybe more.
00 Reply455 opinions shared on Trending & News topic. I think he'll pretty much just be a placeholder for awhile.
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yWhy do you even need these monarchs? Just kick them out.
00 ReplyNah, if he dies maybe the UK will shift to be a bit less conservative, but that's all.
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+1 yDoesn't really matter. Monarchy has been quite the novelty for many a century.
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+1 yI'm that was the guy married to Diana he's an asshole
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