Breaking: The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin. Do you think they will actually arrest him?

[smahala1991]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes-icc-international-criminal-court/

[Mangospacho]

Yes, as long as Putin doesn’t have anyone defending him (e. g. soldiers or an army) then the ICC will be able to just march right up to the Kremlin, open the front door, and walk right into Putin’s office where Putin’s executive assistant will demand to see the arrest warrant, which the ICC will have in their hands now and will have no choice but to go along with them in handcuffs in a van and drive from Moscow to The Hague, where he will be held in custody until his trial date. He will be given one phone call but, since he doesn’t have his cell phone contacts, doesn’t know anyone’s numbers so he will stay in his holding cell until his lawyer can get him out on bond. But, since oil prices got so high last year, he won't be able to afford his bail because he’s still paying off all the expensive gas he had to buy so he’ll just have to sit in a cell until the trial starts.

Of course, this could start as soon as Tuesday of this week and, once the Russian troops in Ukraine find out, they will immediately surrender unconditionally and will probably give some of Russia to Ukraine for their trouble.

[Lliam]

ROFL

[Cambria]

I assume you wrote this Opinion in jest. Putin will never be arrested by the ICC while he is the supreme Dictator of Russia. Putin will die suspiciously or disappear but he will never be arrested by the ICC. Once Putin is gone from power in Russia the War in the Ukraine will end. Putin engineered that War on his own. The Russian people do not support him but if they speak out they are arrested. But the losses to Russia are mounting and it can not last much longer.

[Lliam]

@Cambria. Supreme dictator? Uh, he elected. And has strong support from the Russian people.
That's like the U. S. narrative that Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, or Assad in Syria, were brutal dictators.

I'm not a huge fan of Putin, but he is more honorable and sensible than most U. S. presidents.

And the idea that Russia is losing to Ukraine is more U. S. propaganda. Russia could have gone in with "shock and awe" the way the U. S. did to Iraq. But Putin at first went in with a measured response to Ukrainian (U. S.) aggression and, like Assad, made it a priority to minimize civilian casualties.

Don't believe mainstream media.

[Mangospacho]

@Cambria Yeah, it was in jest. The ICC is a joke. Not that I wouldn’t enjoy seeing Putin get arrested in a pre-dawn raid but they’re not even going to be able to cross the border into Russia, much less arrest their ruthless dictator.

[Cambria]

@Lliam Putin is a Dictator and the elections in Russia are a sham. As Long as Putin is in power he can never lose the rigged elections they have. Potin is a War Criminal now and will do everything he can to avoid arrest by the ICC. He will no longer travel to the West where he would be arrested. If he was innocent Putin would want to clear his name. Instead he will hide in Russia and its Puppet states.

[Lliam]

@Cambria. Your sources?

[Red_Arrow]

@Lliam There was no aggression by Ukraine or the US against Russia. If you look at what is going on, it is Russian forces in Ukraine. So the Ukraine and US "aggression" is defense against Russian forces blowing up Ukrainian hospitals, schools, and infrastructure.

[JamesSletfield]

@Lliam Please dont do that.. Its ok to question main stream media, but not questioning non-main-stream-media and even take that as "the truth" is just as bad. Putin has started this war, he said so himself.. i have seen a truckload of footage, both russian and ukrainian, mainstream and not so main stream, and what you are saying is also a main stream "narrative": from Russian State TV

[Lliam]

@Red_Arrow. Jeeeeez. If you've been asleep for the last 8 years.

[Lliam]

@JamesSletfield. I guess history only began one year ago when that deranged, power mad dictator decided to invade part of Ukraine for no reason at all.

[Red_Arrow]

@Lliam No, if I had been asleep for the last 8 years I would have missed all the atrocities that Russia has dropped on Ukraine. Maybe you have been asleep and been dreaming nonsense.

[Lliam]

@Red_Arrow. Oh. Okay. LOL

[jongreat46]

No, and I think he is really a dictator that needs to be stopped however I believe this was done to try and cause internal harm to his government rather than justice for Russian people or Ukraine. I'm not saying Ukraine doesn't deserve justice it's just at the end of the day without all the hashtag movements and slava ukrainia statements on Facebook and social media, no one really cares about what happens in Ukraine. The only reason everyone pretends to care is because a white country is under attack, I mean Palestine is under attack daily for 75 years, Syrians are under attack daily since 2011 and Libya is a constant state of civil war and no one cares or even justifies what arab and other brown people face in terms of war. But a white country like Ukraine gets attacked and all of a sudden the world notices and takes in Ukrainian refugees without any cap on their numbers like they did to Muslim, arab, and African refugees fleeing worse war zones. So I say again this move by the ICC was politically motivated and not some humanitarian effort for Ukraine.

[strateguy632]

daily? palestine HAD cease fires with israel until palestinian violated the cease fires for example on oct. 7, 2023.

[ElGato31]

I would be surprised. I think it's more like "show that we are doing something". I'm from Eastern Europe, the whole place could burn, I don't really care but I find this arrest warrant hilarious. There is a long list of people who should be arrested for war crimes. Including US leaders.

This is some 'avert the public attention' propaganda again.

[menina]

I'm sure they won't. He's a powerful man, there are many countries that don't follow the ICC orders and let's not forget the nuclear weapons. Plus, there are leaders who are afraid of Vladimir Putin, so obviously they won't confront him.

[llorando]

No, he has as much of being arrested as US leaders do.

[Pyrofox]

The issue is the man has 10x the enemies as he has in terms of friends he's backed himself into a corner where traitors could be everywhere as he demands loyalty and respect but doesn't do the same. As a result he keeps people like himself around himself and ironically leaves himself in a metaphorical torture cell. Of never knowing who or what will two face stab him in the back.

And the irony of this all is Russia's military leader culture has been one of slaying their leadership when its no longer convenient to have them still alive.

Google up Russia's "surviving" WWII military leaders and 99% of them conveniently all die like 1-5 years post war. There is no real loyalty in Russia its all forced. Like a "fake smile."

[LittleSally]

No chance in hell, unfortunately. Why? Nuclear weapons.

[Red_Arrow]

If he is in custody, he will not be in a position to launch a nuclear attack. Whoever would be next in command would be aware that if they launched any nuclear weapons, several countries would be sending nuclear weapons onto Russia. We and other countries have subs with nuclear weapons not at all far from Russia.

[LaFerrari]

@Red_Arrow you watch way to many movies... nuclear weapons aren't going to be an option of retaliation unless it was directed to America, that would be moronic.

[Red_Arrow]

@LaFerrari Any nuclear attack by Russia on anybody could easily be followed by more on others, and speed of retaliation is necessary. Russia knows any nuclear launch would be the start of war, one that my not last long at all.

[LaFerrari]

Nah, Russia will nuke Ukraine, with many reasons too but believe what you want to believe with Americas cover up lol. It still blows my mind that Liberal politicians are directly funding Nazis in Ukraine. Never would have I thought we’d see such a disgrace

[LaFerrari]

NATO wouldn’t pursue nuclear options, nuclear playbook is only for direct threats. If it’s in Ukraine, US and NATO will invade Russia, and take out Putin. Simple

[TomMarks]

Nukes won’t be the response but he won’t be arrested as long as they can’t get to him. Most likely he won’t be traveling outside of his borders anytime soon.

[strateguy632]

certainly I. C. C. cannot. each country judges its own citizens.

Court issues

admittedly only western countries do judge their own soldiers, so maybe we must distinguish that putin is relevant.

u. s. voted against creating the court due to several DETAILS in the agreement, and rejects its authority but in the big picture, for some countries do need deterrence when they do certain actions.

u. s. voted against creating i. c. c. due to its details

when a country can judge its own, as above, it is beyond i. c. c. authority, as explained

still in the big picture such a court is needed for the many countries who do not consider certain actions a crime. for example the nazis had NOT violated local law when they did the real #genocide to jews, so the mass murder was not for german courts.

[Heterosketero]

Who would arrest him? How would they do it? Hitler likely had an arrest warrant for years, you have to win a war first, we can't just nuke the Kremlin and send in Maimi Vice. Emperor Ping is doing lunch with him tomorrow to talk limitless coalition. It served no point but to illustrate Nato and Un's impotency to the detriment of us all. My eye is on Paris, there is enough burning garbage in their streets and a record rat infestation underfoot of a riot and maybe Monday, there won't be a Paris, and the EU starts to worry. Supplicants to the WEF should be concered...

[Friendlybro79]

I think this gives a reason for Russia to look at handing him over themselves. It could give a way for Russia to take care of their own fuck up if they wanted to. This would probably never happen but that's what it made me think of. Someone in the Russian military would need to turn big time and get others to follow the lead. This is not going to be good long term for Russia.

[Mantinziza]

@Friendlybro79 Did any one arrest trump, or Biden? politicians realize that the people they lord over are to mentally indoctrinated and reliant on government handouts to ever take action against those suit wearing snakes. Look at January 6th, it was condemned as a action of treason by mass media, and every poltician. But when Americans fought the British during the 1700s hundreds they were considered heroes only because they won. Modern day citizens of any country, especially dictatorships are cowardly and pussy footed to ever have the back bone to stand up to politicians in mass numbers. This is the reason why modern governments will never change.

[Heterosketero]

@Friendlybro79 fair point, I think condemnation was that opportunity too. We underestimate how ackward we seek to the plder generation however. They are not changing their minds about the west. Just as a lot of our boomers won't either.

[Friendlybro79]

@Mantinziza Trump might be getting arrested and as for Biden nothing that I know of. If either do anything that deserves being arrested I think they will eventually.

I'm not sure why you're changing the subject with what about something else though.

[Friendlybro79]

@heterosketero time will tell for sure.

[Heterosketero]

@Friendlybro79 am I? Im saying, the ilddr Russian generation grew up behind aj Iron Curtain and does not trust the West. Theyvwould never hand over Lutin. The youth will though, given half a chance to take over. Our booomers in the west, still thinking in terms of commies and reds largely. Way things are going these days, I am remembering my childhood as well.

The cold war never ended, but entertainment has, and now we notice.

[Heterosketero]

This site sucks to type on

[blueonblack22]

Exercise in futility and just optics for political gain.

However it isn’t imposible that Russian oligarchs could organize and attempt a bloody coup. But Putin is more than paranoid and prepared for that.

Well entrenched dictators aren’t easy to remove unfortunately. The develop this “cult of a personality” which brainwashes too nah people to believe 2 + 2 = 5.

If you don’t believe me then why did heinous people like Pablo Escobar have tens of thousands of people morning his death and still protecting him when he was on the run (and proven to be absolute pos). Cult of a personality is the reason. And this megalomaniac unfortunately has nukes.

So good luck arresting that. He probably has some sort of contingency set up that if something happens to him he will have some diehard follower press the red button.

[ManOnFire]

Nah. Trying to even come into physical contact with him to arrest him will be a feat of itself. And even if by some act of God that were possible, I imagine he would try to retaliate against the world for real then.

People are saying Putin would never launch nukes or do this or that because he knows it would harm him or Russia in return, but if Putin was truly in a situation with his back against the wall where death or imprisonment were his only options, I do believe he would do something extreme as a last strike before he died. At that point he would have no care about the rest of the world or even Russia for that matter, so he could very easily decide to launch nukes. He would probably figure: if I'm going out, then I'm taking you all with me.

So I think all this arrest warrant news is just more political theater from the West.

[CALIGVLA]

It was a performative move for the most part to be honest.

But I can see the real intent of such move, which is not about arresting the President of Russia but an attempt to drive a wedge between the BRICS members. Brazil and South Africa are signatories of the Rome Statute, whereas Russia, China and India don't.

Now it kinda complicated the diplomatic relations between the heads of state of Brazil and South Africa with their Russian counterpart. They've been put between a rock and a hard place, because they legally have the obligation to comply with the arrest of the President of Russia if he ever makes an official visit to one of those countries, but at the same time are partners in an political bloc.

[strateguy632]

to @CALIGVLA your analysis was brilliant. happy to see you here.

[Robbey]

There’s little to no chance of it happening. Barring a coup, no-one in Russia would ever arrest him. And he very rarely leaves Russia.

Dick Cheney has also had an arrest warrant out for him for maybe 15-20 years with as much likelihood of success.

[TruthBringer]

Of course not. Just as they didn't do with figures such as Bush or Netanyahu. What makes people think they will be able to get Putin? Also, it clearly shows the hypocrisy of the ICC as there are other "leaders" who have done far worse crimes.

[WanderingLoveWizard]

The only good thing about Putin is he openly admits he's a tyrant. I can't say the same for the current leaders of the US

[Heterosketero]

I haven't ever actually heard him make such a confession. Just seems immovably convicted in what he believes he is doing to establish a legacy. Honestly, I just dont enough about Ukraines politics amd I am surprised that the media has been so hush hush about that. They aren't Disney Heroes, I know that, but they aren't entirely villains either and of course, plebs like you or I, can't really be either in all but our own small ways.

[WanderingLoveWizard]

Very true

[BCA6010]

No. He could literally walk into half of Europe and nobody would touch him out of fear of retaliation from Russia, among other things. This is a half-step up from sending a strongly worded letter.

[blissinanarchy1]

I made a post about this. It’s an attempt to get America in the war.

America doesn’t participate with the ICC, because of lack of compatibility with the Constitution.

However, other NATO members do. Any attempt to capture Putin will obviously be a declaration of war or will lead to one.

Once a NATO ally is attacked, America is obligated to fight.

[Anonymous]

Like the USA, Russia never joined the ICC.
So really issuing an arrest warrant for Putin in Russia makes the ICC just as bad as Putin in imposing its law upon other people.

[Heterosketero]

Excellent point. The whole conflict really smacks of that doesn't it. And of course, who starts pitching woo to reason today? My man, Donald Trump. De-escalate now, any escalation is just 99 spy ballons...

[ShadezMcgee]

No. Putin will only die via his own hand or the hand of someone in his immediately vicinity (one of his generals, a coup, assassinstion, etc.)

[Heterosketero]

Without a doubt sir.

[OatmealMuffin]

What a joke. This whole BS war is a money laundering scheme, and people believe the war is real.

[strateguy632]

maybe you refer to fake claims of goals but the invasion and explosions are real.

[EmmaMary]

Sadly not... First they have to be able to catch the fucking slimy little mentally deranged despot... When they do, will somebody please just "double tap" the murdering bastard... Thank you.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

No. Dozens of countries are not ICC members, including China, India, Russia, and the United States. They don't have jurisdiction over them.

[Adam1978]

No he will never be in their jurisdiction. It's a completely empty statement. Same with that woman.

[SpanishRose]

Anyone who goes near him will end up dead from an untraceable poison... not gonna happen. *fake news*

[Pyrofox]

He's gonna lose his mind. Putin already only keeps yes men now there's a even more reason to betray the man lol. 🙃

[Pyrofox]

there's been generals it seems quarterly who conveniently fall out of windows. Now its gonna be wow some new grave stones are en mass showing up at the local graveyard and the barracks are a lot more empty. XD. Its pretty clear that Putin has like no real friends. The man is desperate, lonely and too authoritarian. Most people around Putin its pretty clear treat him like he's like the Russian Grimm Reaper carnation in the the flesh. The same issue as America's Donald Trump to a degree. Wants friends but most of those that are his friends are only really his friend cause they know full well. That if they don't blindly agree with their ideas and concepts you are either literally will conviently die or come close to it.

[RavVid]

I am glad to see ICC do this and hope it flows down to the lowest ranks.

But of course Putin will only step foot in North Korea Iran and China. Or any other like minded dictatorship.

[CALIGVLA]

"DiCtaToRsHiP"

Only a hopeless moron with Cold War fever like you truly believe that there's such thing as "democracies vs dictatorships" in 2023.

Hahahahahahaha.

[RavVid]

@CALIGVLA I salute your ability to conceive of Russian Presidential elections as being free open and honest. It is an even greater accomplishment to see Xi's election as democratic after purging his non-supporters. Including one being removed as the vote was being taken. Note I come from a parliamentary democracy so I don't object to it being a parliamentary vote for the office.

Perhaps though you are criticizing my use of the word dictator rather than anything else. I'm happy with autocrat or autocratic if you prefer those terms.

[Unit1]

Best of luck. That tyrant is not leaving Putinstan. Let's see how they wanna get to him.

Also it took them way too long. These slow ass snails.

[Heterosketero]

You know why Putinstan is clever? Look up what Stan means and then come back and post a meme...

[Unit1]

@Heterosketero
right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-stan

[Heterosketero]

Ahh yeah fuck, I only got half of that. If it had been Kazakhstan, now that would have made funny sense. Land abundant in horses? Led by a bareback Russian man that no ine could arrest...

[Avicenna]

Of course they will bring him in themselves. The ICC has a mighty military of its own for this very task.

[Cheerfull009]

@Avicenna, do you think ICC is capable to defeat Russia,? Never, only immigination

[Heterosketero]

I bet you a crisp John A. MacDonald you are wrong.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Avicenna were you being sarcastic?

[Avicenna]

@Jamie05rhs; Completely

[Jamie05rhs]

Oh, okay.

[XXblack88]

Yeah, an arrest warrant isn't going to do sh*t they are better offering money to anyone who can take him out.

[Lliam]

They are such hypocritical pieces of shit. What a joke.

[mrkdvsn]

The illegitimate ICC which operates under the Beast System will undoubtedly arrest Godly people like Putin, as Satan's minions temporarily prevail against the saints. Not that Putin is a perfect saint

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yes, lock Vladimir Putin up. Along with Donald Trump.

[Heterosketero]

Trump was the only person today to public call for de escalation of what may blow up this very weekend. Good thing we dont lock you up for edgy failures...;)

[dinojames22]

You misspelled Joe Biden

[Heterosketero]

@dinojames22 you misrepresnted an adult

[legalboxers]

@dinojames22 No he spelt it correctly. Maybe you need glasses or Hooked On Phonics. Trump, Putin, Erdoğan, Xi, Duterte, Marcos.

[katiesmuff]

He will be assonated before he is ever arrested

[Leopard23]

They will if he leaves his country for say Germany

[Filthy_Immigrant]

wtf is the ICC? and no, these people tried to do the same shit to Bill Gates yet he is still out there making vaccines and poisoning people from left to right

[rupam_das]

Putin at ICC event🙄

[LordOfThePines]

No, it is entirely symbolic. Russia will not hand over Putin unless there is a regime change, as the ICC has no jurisdiction there nor does it have any methods to enforce it or remove him.

[Heterosketero]

Trying to extract him would cause a civil war, regime change or not. It has the same useless temerity as condemnation. Shaaaame...

[Still-alive]

Just theater lol. No way they can enforce that.

im still hoping one of his generals has the balls to just shoot that mo fo already. He’s literally a threat to the world.

[sheikalana]

I think it will be very hard to capture him.

[Likes2drive]

I would love to know how they would arrest him, that would be interesting and then maybe the war will be over

[JayParris]

All that does is limit his movement. They won't go get him.

[LovingJo]

Nope.. But either way, why not just put a bullet in his head, and be done? 💯

[CALIGVLA]

Why don't you try to do so, big talker?

It would be fun to watch the UK bear the consequences...

Hahahahahahahaha

[jamesgoldman]

He has to leave Russia first which is highly unlikely to happen

[Heterosketero]

He will never need to. He prepared for this for years.

[jamesgoldman]

Exactly

[007kingifrit]

this is a good time to remind everyone international organizations have no legitimacy

[Heterosketero]

WHO?

[007kingifrit]

@Heterosketero the people who covered up the pandemic for the chinese and whose leader testros takes bribes from them? yea ok lol

[Heterosketero]

Nah man, you said international organisations have non legitmacy and said, Who? Political satire, but Im no Bill Maher.

[Heterosketero]

They should be called HOW, like who fucking fucking matters when they are all in on it.

[Heterosketero]

Or maybe called in for an airstrike...

[ChiTown33]

Yes, I hear dog the bounty hunter is going to bring him in.😂

[Heterosketero]

Wait until he meets Bearkov, the Dog hunter, from Chehnya...

[ChiTown33]

@Heterosketero 😂😂😂😂

[Juxtapose]

Yeah, just like they arrested Dick Cheney or Barack Obama, right? Both of them are war criminals.

[Luopio27]

No way they can arrest him. Any country invading russia allows their leaders to use nukes on the attacking country.

[Cheerfull009]

@Luopio27, this organization is active against weak countries but not against powerful countries, like, USA, Russia, a bulshit organization

[Heterosketero]

I am goijg to predict that by meltdown or pissing contest, Ukraine is getting nuked for politics and money laundering and Nato subterfuge with global markets and sovereign states. This is way bigger than that country.

[Fuentes]

Lol no his own people will have to whack him or coup him or he gets caught slipping by a random sniper.

[monorprise]

Russia like the USA never joined the ICC. So even if Russians did want to get rid of Putin is it really in their interest to submit him and thus themselfs to laws not of their own making and to which they never consented?

[Fuentes]

@monorprise that's what I'm saying the only way Putin is getting got is through his own people the ICC can't do anything about him and nobody will touch him unless he is caught slipping.

[LiamJHayden]

No chance unless his generals overthrow him and turn him over.

[Heterosketero]

He is also not in good health. My money is on, he dies anyway of natural cause, and leaves Russia with its balls hanging like a half raised Iron Curtain.

[Keishio]

Why is anything he's done been more illegal than anything that any western nation has done? In my eyes they're all as evil as eachother

[Anonymous]

Does The Hague want to get hit with a missile strike? The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.

[najekim]

Only if someone does a snatch-and-go to get him out of the country.

[Heterosketero]

Who would you suggest, Chuck Norris and Seal Team Very Dead?

[najekim]

@Heterosketero Don't forget James Bond. ;)

[msc545]

No it was just performative. Nobody is arresting Putin.

[Jltakk]

They don't have any legal way to do that lol Russias not a part of NATO or anything. This is just weasel words that mean nothing. Also, ahem, nukes.

[RandomGuy1030]

Watch putin take over Europe and execute the pansies in charge promoting this LBGTism and other degenerate

[Pohjolan]

This warrant won't expire so maybe if his successor uses it as a excuse to get rid of him.

[TallAnon]

Nope, the second he's out of Russia, he's a dead man; He knows this.

[CaptainSmartass]

Probably not. I wouldn't mind having a crack, though.

Simples...

[ItsMykolaJenkins]

I wish

His ass belongs in hell or prison

[Surely]

If he never leaves Russia. That will never happen

[dinojames22]

Nope
The ICC is legally useless and has no real power.

[Cheerfull009]

ICC is an American Court, so Putin don't care, only USA spreading such rumors,

[DryGermanGuy]

The United States is not a member of the ICC and even voted against its creation. Inform yourself next time.

[Cheerfull009]

@DryGermanGuy, even not member, but still have under its influence, same like UNO, an American influenced Organization

[monorprise]

@cheerfull009
If we had any control over the ICC we would abolish it. The idea of an forign organization imposing law upon us to which we had no part in making is intolerable.

That's why we not only voted against it, we refused to join, and Clinton didn't even try to get the senate to ratify it before Bush told them to take a hike.

[DryGermanGuy]

What monoprise wrote. The United States has even less interest in working with or for the ICC as they have with the UN. Which is blatantly obvious for anyone actually following the news.

[whistlingwh0res]

I am hopping that he dies soon

[slatyb]

He won't leave Russia.

[Dargil]

Dictators don't get arrested.