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Elon Musk: “A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far.”
What do you think should be the criteria to be smart enough to have a children?
@kingofme1 Intelligence is not something we are great at measuring, and it is better demonstrated with good judgement resulting in success. As you said "By their fruits you will know them." Therefore the write brothers may very well be regarded as intelligent.
You also don't call a family broken because 1 of 11 kids doesn't get along with you. That's a very good rate all things considered. Elon's more significant problems is that he is a workaholic and could not maintain his relationships. That he managed to have 11 kids despite all of this illustrates there are other ways.
Even still the first isn't that big a deal beyond its modern relationships with the 2nd. It seem rather unlikely
As for raising kids we might agree most kids today are more raised by their friends, schools and social media than the parents and that in fact may be the problem. Elon in fact blames the school and her friends for the estrangement of his 1 daughter. Given the reason for her estrangement being the aquired beleive that all rich people are evil its kind of believable. They are not exactly uncommon ideas in the California school Elon paid quite a lot of money to send her to.
to king, your whole long reply could have been avoided if you checked the quote, he wasn't excluded anyone nor boasting he had a model family. judging by the naive replies here, we need smarter children.
@strateguy632 I couldn't help but notice that as well. As usual people like @kingofme1
they take a quote that says one thing and completely ignore what it means in favor of whatever racist meaning they want to give it.
Honestly, I don't think that's a half bad idea. In the town where I live, I've lived here for about 10 months, and I've never seen so many stupid people with children. Down the street a few months ago, there were some drug addicts that left their drugs out and their 8 month old child got into them and died. The drugs are really bad in this town.
I've been saying this for years but honestly, I I think people should have to take parenting classes before they even have children to make sure that they're suited to be parents. Even if people think that they'll be good parents, those are the ones that should really take them.
Dumb people having dumb offspring, yeah I get that. I dated a girl once that was on social security disability, her mother was on social security disability, and both her parents, both her grandparents, three of her uncles, and both of her aunt's. They would blow their money on alcohol, partying, gambling, and her mother would cheat on her father all the time. But none of them had ONE working brain cell!
How people get away with so much, I will never understand!
I was just reading all of these negative comments about Elon and I just shook my head in amazement. Of course Elon is far from perfect and there is a lot he says that I don't agree with, but guess what? You liberals would not be saying any of the things you just posted if it were just 3 or 4 years ago. People used to think Elon was a liberal. The democrat-controlled media used to only have good things to say about him. Then he bought Twitter, and restored free speech. That drove the liberals CRAZY! Now, Elon didn't silence them. No, he alowed both sides to speak freely. The democrats know that they absolutely must have total control of all the social media networks to control what their sheep think. Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc., are all fully under their control. But Twitter is now allowing viewpoints that are not approved by the democrat elite, so they use the sources they do control to tell you what to think about him. He went from being praised by the left-wing media, to being some kind of a deranged super-villain. Not long ago, Mika Brzezinski, of MSNBC slipped up on air, and commented to Joe Scarborough that it was their job to tell YOU what to think. The comments posted here confirms that this strategy is working well for them.
Of course I don’t agree with that. Why do you think that way? It’s impossible for everyone to have an IQ like Einstein. So many smart people nowadays are also born from ordinary people.
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Sadly , our entire economic system world wide is based on growth , we can't have growth without an increased population , there is one problem with Elons proposition , and that is that birth rates are higher where education levels are poor , so in essence the more you educate , the less children you will have , this is now proven.
So how do you quantify who is intelligent enough to reproduce? In raw terms he sure has a point , but the qualification while maintaining growth is the difficult part.
To suggest we could just quietly slip back to 50% of where we are at now and all would be fine is utterly ludicrous , would end in the sheer destruction of the poorest , and a massive worldwide recession.
Well, he's not terribly bright himself, having paid for the purchase of 'Twitter' twice what it was actually worth, and then getting rid of most of the staff only to realise, later on, that he actually needed them. Then he made changes to it that resulted in advertising dropping and people abandoning the site in droves.
Then of course there are his 'Starlink' satellites that keep falling out of the sky, the 'Hyperloop' which is just a fancier (and more costly and less efficient) version of a subway system, his plans to colonise Mars that anyone who has ever been stationed in Antarctica for any amount of time will be able to tell you, just isn't a good idea due to the psychological damage that the colonists will suffer due to their complete isolation and their knowledge that they will never see Earth again, and of course his 'Tesla' cars that keep catching fire and exploding.
The guy is nothing more than a narcissistic con-man, the male version of Elizabeth Holmes.
Civilisation coped perfectly well when the population was a fraction of the size it was now. The only reason people want more people is so there's more cheap labour and people fight for low wage jobs. If you've got a hundred people competing for a job you can pay peanuts.
We need less people but better quality ones so he's half right.
"Civilisation coped perfectly well when the population was a fraction of the size it is now." This is because:
- Distribution is easy with a small number of people.
- Production was, first for survival then trade. Now if it's not profitable, it's out. No mather the good it will bring to the planet.
- Power was more local and played less of a roll.
We have the resources, we don't have the political will and the how.
To move forward humanity needs more people, specifically more industrialist 'smart' people.
Just to maintain an economy very much depended upon all the systems built up you need to maintain the population. For many of those systems like Social Securty you must substantially grow the population.
As for our numbers have you ever wonders why human tecnoligy stagnated soo much for soo long?
The main reason was raw population, there were to put it simply too few minds working and sharing ideas. Fewer people means not just enormous economic problems slower innovation in an ever changing world.
We have an increasingly old population. If we continue to have less young people. Prices will rise, retirements will quickly become too expensive for the majority of people. We already struggle to find young people looking for blue collar jobs. Many sectors are struggling due to inflated prices of materials, understaffed. There are enough modern jobs available on the market and not enough young people for the other types of jobs. I’ve got jobs to be filled that pay well, with a bit of experience. All young people need to do is join and go to school part time for a few years to get the experience, they can work get paid above minimum wage at an apprentice level and go to school and learn at the same time. It’s also common practice to pay more if an apprentice is a bit older and switching careers. I have to get guys from other firms to make a switch because the job market just lacks new fresh potential.
If you increase the population you just create more employers demanding a greater pool of people to choose from. It's a never ending cycle. We need a program of mass depopulation to streamline the economy.
@purplepoppy
More employer, more inventors, more workers, more innovation, more opportunities.
Like it or not there are a great many resources that we run out of regardless of how many humans there are, and the resources that we use more of such as water, air, food, etc.. are really practically without any limit we need be conserved with provided we have people willing to work to get it.
What we don't have unlimited amount of is time before something happens to the earth like an asteroid impact, or the relatively fixed nations of the earth end up doing something stupid.
We have to move the human race to different parts of the solar system and galaxy as soon as possible and to do that we need a lot more industrious people to both solve the problems needed and actually go there and do it.
Failing that humanity is doomed.
Eventually the population will be too old. There is no human way to depopulate. Currently in France the average age of the population is 42. In 1991 it was 33. As time goes on and we continue to produce on average 1.6 children per woman. Eventually there’s a generation that will be surrounded by retired people 😂
@TipsyFr Not really the state will collapse because we won't be able to support all its dependence as well as ourselfs. Currently this is already happening as the old who still control most of the resources and property import people from around the world to do the jobs at an affordable price the American young are not able to legally make ends meet doing.
So their kids remain at home with their parents longer and longer and put off having kids longer and longer making the situation even worse for their generation.
The end game is cultural collapse as the imported cultures completely replace the native culture, and abandon theses insane polices.
If you want more people have a open boarder policy or pay people to immigrate there.
@TipsyFr and @purplepoppy. Both of your arguments are valid and show the downsides and possible solutions.
On the topic of blue-collar jobs. Money, flexibility and availability of certifications are key to filling these jobs. I would add one more thing and that is quality of life and work-life balance. Some of these jobs take a toll on the health of the worker, in the long run. While others don't provide the flexibility that the service jobs offer. Improving these aspects will make blue-collar jobs more favorable. I know a lot of people that like a blue-collar job more but don't work because of these aspects.
Solving this will also improve the birth rate. Having a large family is getting more and more costly and hard to manage when both of the parents are working full-time jobs that manage to pay just above the minimum living expences for today's society. Improving blue-collar jobs will still affect more families than service jobs.
@purplepoppy Increasing the population will just create more employees giving a greater pool of people to choose from. With that lowering the power of the worker. We don’t need a program of mass depopulation to streamline the economy. The economy is made by the people for the people. If we put it above the lives of people factories will start to look like concentration camps.
I don't think there should be a significant effort to prevent or even discourage childbirth unless it would result in passing down an untreatable hereditary illness, or something to that effect.
The flip side problem is that a lot of the "smart" people who should be having kids are either not having kids at all, or just having one.
Being smart is subjective. Plus, he has no right to decide what people should do with their lives.
Also, from what I heard his family isn't perfect. He's saying that because he's super rich and doesn't take care of his children because he's too busy with nonsense.
adding "just" is a misquote of criminal proportions.
you changed "positively encouraged a group hesitant to multiply" to a fraudulent claim of exclusion. i also hate twitter but not to attack musk wrongly. your misquote and respondents who believe without checking like me is a stain.
If everyone is smart then being smart will not help you get a job so being smart would lose its value to you.
Just like if everybody had a genius I. Q. then people with genius I. Q. s would be cleaning toilets and picking up dead animal corpses for a living.
The reason they get paid with their Ferraris and their private jets is that they are uncommon and rare.
@monorprise it’s nice of you to compare me to Zuckerberg, I’m not sure I would be that bold in my own estimation. Thanks : )
I know a guy who has multiple degrees in math, chemistry, and physics from but he has the common sense of a chicken. Can't stay out of trouble one way or another. Common sense is what the world needs. If Elon musk had any common sense he'd know we need less people in the world, not more.
Birth rates are declining though. We may have approx. seven and a half thousand million people on the planet right now, but unless things change, and fast, that will result in our societies having a disproportionate number of people of pensionable age, and too few young taxpayers. Just look at countries like Japan where this is already the case.
Elon can be very good businessman. But on other issues... he is fucking dumb. If he tells only smart people can have kids... Ok... will China follow that rule? Will India follow that rule? Will Russia? So basicly those countries population grow so fast that they march over the border and start living in your home. And you gonna do what?
@JesseP1nk what do we have now? An invasion of third world bottom feeders costing us billions of dollars and basically ensuring that our country sinks into the third world abyss — but hey, I guess Elon needs to be re-educated because he is not parroting the party line
@joesheks Look, you can live in your bubble and ignore anything that goes on in Ukraine (raping kids and women and executing civilians and bombing markets) and do what Elon says about kids. But do not come crying when Russians have conquered to Berlin AGAIN and pointing nukes at you.
I know morons like you do not care about history nor pacts. But Ukraine gave their NUKES away with budapest memorandum so UK, USA RUSSIA give Ukraine security assurances. But instead Russia attacked them
@JesseP1nk
Elon seems to know what he's talking about more than you. All 3 of those countries not only have a great many smart people but are in fact seeing slowing birth rates. Russia's is among the lowest in the world at 1.5.
data.worldbank.org/.../SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
China's is even worse a disastrous at 1.2 children per woman, it needs to be nearly twice that to just sustain China's population.
data.worldbank.org/.../SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=CN
India's formerly among the worlds few nations still having enough kids has now likewise has just passed the 2.1 replacement rate threshold to a sub-replacement 2.0.
data.worldbank.org/.../SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=IN
So Clearly Elon has a far greater grasp of this subject than you do. This is the biggest problem we face as a civilization, not just the ever lower global birth rate but specifically where that low birth rate is, among the industrialized nations and people's capable of supporting human civilization in the future.
If we don't figure out how to make industrial civilization sustain itself human race is doomed.
The Russians are going to take Berlin? They would rather sell their gas to the Germans than invade the place, but I guess people like you can't get past the Cold War CIA-controlled corporate media brainwashing you underwent.
They can't even take Ukraine, so what makes you think they'd be able to reach Berlin?
@Siri137 And why exactly can't they take Ukraine? For a very reason monorprise is angry at- US is pumping weapons and money at them.
@monorprise i really dont care if you dont believe me or not. I live next to Russia and i know what they are like. So you can kiss Elons ass on and tell how much he know about Russia.
If the Russian government decided to send its troops towards Germany, not forgetting there is a rather large country called Poland in the way that they'd have to conquer first, it would be the end of all of us, because Germany, Poland and Estonia, where you live, are all NATO countries. You may not like Putin, but you can't assume he's suicidal.
@JesseP1nk I need not defend Russia to point out they are doing terribly in vital business actual life.
Indeed Estonia is only doing slightly better than Russia at 1.6 children per woman:
data.worldbank.org/.../SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=EE
Both your countries are dying and your worried about who runs what...
Estonia is NATO, it will be fine. Focus on Estonian Life not hopeless Russian threats.
He's a classic eugenicist. He's also a technocrat who thinks he is so superior that he has a right to run other people's lives.
He and other billionaires like him have no idea what it is to be human.
@Lliam
What if any evidence do you have that he supports Eugenics?
The fact is birth rate is lowest among industrial "smart" people, a pattern that has been true and noted for hundreds of years. Even Adam Smith noted this pattern at the dawn of the industrial age in 1776 in the wealth of nation.
It is indeed the "smart" people who are selectively not having enough kids to sustain that very same intelligence. The result is even observable as average IQ levels have been dropping.
@monorprise. That's a very interesting claim about "smart" people in industrial countries choosing to have fewer kids, resulting in an observable drop in IQ levels. I have many questions about that assertion.
Were industrial people smarter or did they just have less need for large families?
The IQ test was invented in 1904 and may have cultural bias. So how do we know that average IQ levels have decreased?
What are "Industrial countries". It sounds like an AngloAmerican-centric term.
Smart is a good thing, but how many smart people came from large and/or impoverished families? And how many so-called smart people were simply fortunate to have access to excellent education? And how many smart people produced dumb kids?
Anyway, re: Elon. You asked a legitimate question. My comment was partially based on reaction to the erroneous claim (as stated in the question) that he "wants 'just' smart people to have kids". When researching to reply to you, I found he said wants smart people, not 'just' smart people, to have kids. That's fair enough.
Nevertheless, to want "smart" people to have more kids suggests the idea of selective breeding.
Furthermore, as a technocrat, he is a proponent of merging men with machines.
But I did find that he's on the fence with genetic engineering because it raises what he calls "the Hitler problem"(creation of a master race). So I have to back off on my statement and admit that I made an assumption. I thought I had read things linking Musk to eugenics, but I seem to have been mistaken.
It's Gates who is a flat out eugenicist. And there are plenty of others. Elon, not so much.
industrial people are not nessarly smarter except that to hold and particularly be very successful at many of theses jobs does required a certainty level of demonstrated intelligence in the particular area that will be essential to humanity going forward.
We cannot hope to be very successful colonizing the universe without successful industrial skills in particular. That of course is a huge problem because for 200 years in the west and 100+ years in the industrialized non-west we have been selectively breeding the ability to be very successful at these kinds of jobs out of our population.
It is in fact the people who can't do theses kind of jobs which are ever more purly the people who are making up whats left of the human race. hence the drop in IQ, which while perhaps culturally spesfic does in fact to a large degree capture the necessary skills for industrial jobs.
The definition of industrial for this sake is factories and consecrated & specialized industry, in contrast to more Agrarian economics has defined human civilization since the dawn.
Ironically it is that consecrated urban labor which is a large part of the problem. Today most nations are to some degree industrialized with Africa being the least industrialized due to political instability undermining the required property rights.
Well, he is not wrong. We have a system where the welfare class is rewarded for having more illegitimate children. These children are raised in single parent households and grow up being dependent on the government. This is reverse Darwinism.
Just because your pretty smart and have lots of money doesn't mean you're a good parent. Not sure Elon is exactly the best role model.
@KingOfMe1 Thanks. I agree wealth and how smart you are has no bearing on whether your a fit parent, or for that matter a fit person.
Why? Because 1 out of 11 kids has decided she hates all rich people to include him?
We should all be soo lucky
to @OfMiceandMen , content parent, his point wasn't about parents it was about CHILDREN more statistics likely to have smarter potential like parents by genetic inherited.
@strateguy632 Oh for sure, I agree the children's potential to be smarter increases, if the parents are smart, but, I don't agree with "just smart people" having kids. That one trait is insufficient to improve society as whole.
I dunno, it has been said genius and mentally illness kind of run parallel to eachother. I don't know if that's true but either way Elon doesn't get a say in this. 😆
Besides after he takes us as a species to Mars then he can stipulate only the smart people there. Elon "King of Mars".😆
Hell no. We need many non-smart people to re-elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to a second term.
Biden is the king of non-smart. lol
Democrats are far from smart
They literally make up random terms and genders when science says otherwise.
@Brittanyroseee
They most certainly do.
Yes!
I think you should have to do two years of community service or civil service before you’re allowed to vote or have kids. If you’re on any kind of welfare, you should not be able to have kids.
Elon Musk has a broken family with an estranged daughter. He's not really a good parenting example...
@BeetleBro2000
Seriously? He might be neglectful due to overworking but having only 1 estranged daughter is very good, given how many he has.
@monorprise neglect is a form of child abuse. I hope you don't see him as a role model for your parenting.
@BeetleBro2000
What is neglect? Elon may not be a role model his skills are clearly elsewhere, but he is hardly the worse parent.
@monorprise you said "he may be neglectful" as if that was not a very bad thing. He's not the worst parent, no, but he's he's far from the best. Im not saying he shouldn't be allowed to raise kids (although I suspect he'd say that of me), I'm just saying he shouldn't be the person we look to for parenting advice. You agree he doesn't have skills in that area.
@BeetleBro2000
Since he has 13 of them raised under circumstances that allowed him to be very productive.
With only 1 girl being a failure so far, what makes you think he's not far better suited to give precisely the kind of parental advice we need than most people on earth?
We need advice how to be both parents and productive in the modern industrial world. Elon clearly did that far better than most all of us.
@monorprise I know so many parents who have zero estranged kids. Between all of them is at least 30 kids, and not one of them is estranged. When a child cuts off their own parent, that's extremely extremely rarely because the child is "a failure." It's so easy to not get cut off by people. You have to go so far out of your way to get someone to cut you off completely. Do you realize that? All you have to do to not get cut off by someone, is not hurt them. You don't even have to help them AT ALL. It takes NO effort. Anyone who gets cut off by even 1 of their children out of a hundred, is almost 100% guaranteed to be a horrible parent.
Yes, we need to know how to balance work and family life. But you agree that Musk was NOT good at balancing them. You agree he clearly favored one over the other. So while he may be helpful for work advice, he's not a good source for parenting advice OR balancing the two advice. This isn't some horrible insult to him, it's just a fact. He's not a role model parent, and shouldn't be held as one. There's plenty of other parents you can get advice from. It's not the end of the world to recognize Musk isn't the end all be all parental figure.
There would be more weight in your remark if you were not cherry picking parents without estranged kids, or among parents who had 11 or more kids.
Im just saying a 9% rebellious estranging kid rate is good, particularly for a man who did in fact focus soo much on his work. I know of many parents who have far higher rates than that if i were to do as you did I could cherry pick them to claim the average is far higher.
Even still musk's estranged daughter is still quite young and was estranged for predictable reasons of cultural poisoning, which Musk seems to have learned from.
selectively choosing from among successfull parents to exlcude if you knew a significant number of parents with 10 or more kids and not a single one estrainged.
@monorprise if I can cherry pick a dozen people of the top of my head who are better parents to their children than Musk, then he's clearly not THE BEST. I never said he was the worst, so your examples of parents worse than him doesn't change anything. I know there's many parents worse than him. Again, I'm not trying to make some crazy claim that he's at the very extreme end of the spectrum and should be used as the ideal example of a bad parent. That would be silly. As silly as making the claim he is at the very extreme end of the spectrum and should be used as the ideal example of a good parent. He's just some parent who is also a businessman. He's not the only one, he's not the worst one, and he's not the best one. That's literally all I'm saying. He should be treated like any other parent who can give advice people can take or not take. He shouldn't be treated like the parent god who can do no wrong and who's word is divine truth of all parenting. I think that's a very reasonable opinion on my part.
@BeetleBro2000
When you say someone isn't qualified to give advice your either setting a very high bar for contributing to a conversation positively or your claiming they are so exceptionally bad as to not qualify for the low one.
I don't see how this is a reasonable position for Elon Musk given he does in fact have 11 kid 10 of which are fine. The fact that he was able to have so many and a career is particularly impressive and important a skill for what Americans have been struggling to do since the 80's.
Given those conflicting goals which we might agree are not idea, 9% isn't nearly as bad as I would expect to be normal.
@monorprise nothing about Musks parenting is "particularly impressive." Anyone can have 10 kids and a demanding career. Especially if they don't use birth control responsibly and spend most of their time on their career instead of on the kids and have several other parents to help raise the kids in your absence. If you WANT to have multiple wives, 11 kids, and a demanding career and you think 1 kid is an acceptable loss, then go ahead and take advice from Musk. That's your decision.
For a lot of people, that's not their goal. I'd even be so bold as to say, that's not the average parent's or career person's goal. Personally I'm fine with my 1 kid, 1 wife, and regular career. I don't want to be spending every hour of every day at the office away from my family, and i don't feel any need to go through the havng-a-kid process again with any current, past, or future partner. Once was more than enough. And obviously I don't see 1 kid as an acceptable loss.
So for me and anyone else who doesn't consider Musks family life our ideal end goal, it's perfectly reasonable to NOT value his family and parenting advice. Just like any other parent that some people think did good and some people think did bad. Musk isn't special just because he's YOUR ideal.
Smart people don't take that risk. At most they have 1-2 kids. People can't afford to have kids.
And who will decide who is smart and who is stupid? All people deserve to have kids, but not all deserve to keep them and raise them.
@artgorgeous whether they do or not deserve is irrelevant. What you need to understand are the consequences. Communism is just around the corner
@artgorgeous as the class of the “underprivileged” grows, the anger and resentment grows. As white peoples share of the population in the western world shrinks, these black and brown people will blame whites for their predicament. Never mind that neither groups has been able to establish a successful country. Particularly with blacks, who are the bottom of every totem pole, they can never take responsibility for their own actions or accept that nature dealt them a bad hand. Unfortunately, whites were long ago brainwashed by their televisions a nd are essentially giving away what their ancestors built. Once whites are gone, there will be no first world country. What is remarkable is that few people can even comprehend that
He’s right dumb asses do not need to duplicate. And they are the biggest losers with kids they can’t afford relying on tax payers to take care of them.
Ofc course not, having parent with high IQ doesn't mean that the child will have one too, and ofc vice versa
@KingOfMe1 exactly
You can be intelligent but not smart but you can't be smart without being intelligent. Being intelligent means how well you aquire knowledge and be smart is how well you can applthat knowledge.
It is easy for him to say that. He probably has people to wipe his butt for him.
but why do you believe he did?
Smart people understand eugenics is pseudoscience. Seems he has some catching up to do
If you can figure out how to stick it in the right hole, I figure you qualify.
Well, we DO have MORE than enough stupid people!! Just knowing we have one in charge of the entire country says a LOT about that!!
So, a low birth rate is a disaster, but only smart people should be able to have kids?
All we need is freedom, free markets, and education, and humanity will be fine.
Elon is a dummy. He has a high IQ but he is a dummy.
He doesn't know how the world works.
If you're smart enough, you'd know the resources are fast ending. Humans are already 7 billion. Lmao. Make yourself scarce.
2023 now 8.1 billion. of which 85% religilous.
@anon1903
When your smart enough you know resources are an ever changing and practically infinite thing.
We already have the tecnoligy to produce effectively infinite energy. The knowledge to produce hundreds of times more food than we currently have, and how to turn almost anything into a useful material.
Seriously look at what your standing on, that dirt is silicon, carbon, and countless other materials we need merely energy and will power to make whatever we want from. If you want something easier just dig down a little.
This is what practical engineering intelligence can allow a person to see.
We are not even remotely close to running out.
@monorprise species are expiring, inflation is happening, we're clearing out forests for human population — are you serious?
@monorprise please tell me you're joking with all this "we have technology" argument.
Absolutely!
I agree and they should have policies to support them and keep the dumb people from reproducing. One good example is mandatory sterilization for any woman who delivers a drug-addicted baby.
I don’t think there is some kind of guarantee that smart kids come from smart parents
Then why is he having children? He named his son X Æ A-12
Lol
Yea, when an interviewer asked him how is X Æ A-12 is doing he thought she was talking about a password. People shouldn't be alowed to name children unnatural names, its in the same way like you wouldn't name a child hitler or tree. Even tho he has money doesn't mean he's smart, he wanted to nuke a planet, Mars
Then who's gonna do the dirty blue collar jobs. He sounds like a Bond villain. Also, "smart" by WHO'S definition? HIS?
He needs to follow his own advice then before anyone else even considers it
He wants to be considered smart lmfao
I have seen “Highly Educated “ smart people that had absolutely no common sense.
So which of those would be allowed to reproduce?
Yeah since I personally know a lot of stupid people who have started a family but we’re too stupid to manage them
Strongly disagree.
was his grandfather smart?
being smart is also related to genetics.
Technically @kelly6 yes it is
Or maybe help the people in poverty instead so they can have better lifes
If we follow him, we would die as a population
I don't know why people treat this guy like he's intelligent or some sort of a mentor lol
@Starrrboy because having a nation full of very fertile third world bottom feeders and childless first worlders is so sustainable. Geez I wonder what happened to Detroit, Los Angeles, southern Texas and Florida, and many other places but there are questions we are not supposed to ask
Because he has demonstrated through his tangible results he knows the game of life and knows it well. He may or may not be aware of what he knows but he does know. "By their fruits you will know them"
Being smart is overrated. Go read a bunch of books and take some classes and you're smart. That doesn't change your life or make you successful. You know how to do better than you are doing but it's not changing your life is it?
There IS a genetic component but at the same time I’ve met some really smart people whose parents are drug addicts with an intelligence to match.
I agree we are experiencing overpopulation and pollution. Absolutely 100% agree
I don't know what the criteria would but Hitler had a similar idea. Just saying.
It's a great idea, in theory. In theory Communism works. In theory.
Most of his kinds don't have pronouncable names. He's not exactly a benchmark for reproduction
That's not a good enough example. Who cares about names. That doesn't make you a bad father. It makes you creative and not a copy cat. It makes you manly and strong and brave to be different because you are different. Now @BeetleBro2000 gave a much better example, "Elon Musk has a broken family with an estranged daughter."
Where did he say that "just smart people" should have kids? His statement seems to be that a collapsing birth rate is the problem.
Who gets to decide what smart means, and which kind of smart the world needs more of?
i’m not trusting a billionaire’s advice who has a bunch of kids by different women 🤦♂️
He'd be on the "no kids" list then, lmaooo.
Smart enough by whose standards?
Depends what his definition of Smart Person is.
Then he should not be having babies...
This planet is already overpopulated.
I disagree but whatever.
Smart is not adequately defined.
No eugenics is a bad idea.
Elon's narcissism is just phenomenal.
He has no legal right to say or act on that
@jimmy2
Your rights to speak come from God not Goverment, even still the 1st amendment forbids that goverment from legally denying you the right to say anything.
As for action, i doubt very much what she is claiming is what he was saying.
More likely it is a reference to the fact that "smart people" are the ones not having kids
He has kids?
I agree
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