What do you think about Luigi Mangione’s federal murder trial delay?

[Melanie31]

Luigi Mangione's federal trial regarding the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO has been postponed once again. What are your thoughts?

[Bricealan]

@Melanie31 haven't you heard? He is just too handsome to be tried for murder?

[FenixG45]

I don't follow this story, but he deserves his punishment

[FenixG45]

Thank you for MHG!

[loveslongnails]

He said the quiet thing out loud. We all know murdering the CEO was wrong, but we're forced to tolerate the thousands of people murdered or kept ill because companies like United refuse health care to deserving patients. We, and by that I mean those of us with a functional, critically analytical brain (so that rules all of magats out ) all know that CEO's like Brian Thompson are DIRECTLY responsible for how their companies operate, even though they'll claim not to be. Thousands of people die every year because of people like him.

But people like him aren't accountable for those deaths, but only to their stockholders. They take no responsibility for the daily life or death decisions that get made under their watch. So the dilemma is over vigilantism for people who really know deserve it, while we ask ourselves " who are we to decide if we live in a law and order society"?

All of that often goes out the door when that concept of "law and order" gets twisted to favor the powerful and wealthy, and the injustice affects you personally. So those of you screaming " he should rot in jail", who never say a word about the thousands who die from being denied life saving health care due to "cost" that will affect the bottom line profit, are nothing but hypocrites.

I'm not saying set him free, or even that it's justifiable homicide,; that's a legal issue. But instead of a wake-up call that should bring down for profit health care, you conserva-bitches once again ignore the real issue. Once again, as always.

[loveslongnails]

forgive the typo: "... who WE really know deserve it..."

[DaThinker]

Let me play the role of devil's advocate.
1) CEO's have a legal (fiduciary) obligation to maximize shareholder value. They can be, and regularly are, sued for failure to fulfill that obligation. You can't blame Thompson for trying to maximize profits when that is specifically his job.
2) Insurance coverage varies significantly from policy to policy. You can't expect a cheap-o insurance policy to have the same coverage as a very expensive policy. The widely held notion that everyone should have unlimited medical coverage is absurdly wrong.

That said, insurance companies are raking in billions in profits by screwing people. There is only one logical way to fix the problem. Eliminate the insurance companies. Universal healthcare would eliminate the insurance middleman and reduce healthcare costs by BILLIONS of dollars every year.

[loveslongnails]

@DaThinker As I've said before and agree with you, there is NO real need for an insurance company in a single payer system, except to offer upgrades in a system that is already sufficient.

But you're VERY incorrect about this statement: " The widely held notion that everyone should have unlimited medical coverage is absurdly wrong." Unlimited medical coverage means different things in different countries. In New Zealand for example, if you're a taxpaying citizen, you DO have unlimited medical coverage so long as doctors deem it necessary. Everyone with the same illness gets the same treatments, as ordered by your docs. The difference is the perks, like a single room, or a specific hospital, or a specific doctor -- sometimes. But in their system, you can't buy higher lifetime coverage, that's just not how it works.

** The legal fiduciary argument is null and void when it comes as a result of practices that knowingly and repeatedly endanger the lives of patients or can be directly attributed to their deaths. ANY legal contract has to be executed "in good faith", and that rational eliminates the idea of "good faith" when it knowingly puts lives in real danger and consciously causes deaths which could have been prevented.

Big corporations know this, which is why they do CBA's to determine if repairing a problem will cost more than paying out lawsuits that follow. This happens quite often with big pharma, auto makers, utility companies, and any corporation that discovers a safety issue with their product OR sold it with full knowledge of a defect.

So, I very well CAN blame any CEO who uses that bullshit legal facade to maximize profit and the expense of human lives. They KNOW they're doing the wrong thing too.

[Tyler_with_Questions]

The delay is understandable from a legal preparation standpoint. The defense needs sufficient time to be ready. The delay simply underscores the complexity and length of the judicial process in major criminal cases.

[SieghardWalsung]

It doesn't really matter what happens after this point.

He did what he set out to do, and it sent the message it should have.

No amount of bitching or jurisdictional BS is going to bring Brian back.

[RingOfFire]

My honest thought. I hope the subhuman coward gets sentenced to execution by being shot in the back the same as he did to the man he murdered. That would be justice to me.

[FreyaRed]

Killing CEOs is socially acceptable but getting caught is not.

[blackeagle007]

Needs to rot in prison. He can still get life from state charges.

Note- I’m not a fan of united healthcare.

[foxsquirrell]

I am not following this trial. I have no thoughts about this delay.

[Abbycado]

Couldn’t care less.

[exitseven]

It is a legal move to delay the inevitable.

[Shiprex]

They're trying to end him in jail

[LiamJHayden]

Murder trials often get postponed.

[Bklynbadboy12]

He should rot in jail

[NathanDavis]

none

[Agape93]

Don't care

[In_Trance]

Never heard of them