Britain didn't COVID vaccinate its kids the way America did yet had fewer Children died of Covid. Why is that?

[Just_Ken]

The UK Focused on "Marginal Benefit": The JCVI publicly emphasized that children were at an incredibly low risk of severe illness from COVID-19. Because public health officials spent months debating whether the marginal benefit outweighed very rare side effects (like myocarditis), it naturally fostered hesitance and relaxed attitudes among British parents.

The US Focused on Universal Protection:

US officials framed child vaccination as essential to keeping schools open, protecting vulnerable family members, and preventing rare but serious complications like MIS-C (Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children).

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Turns out Germany didn't vaccinate their kids either like America did and had much fewer Child Covid deaths. Funny that.

[goaded]

Mostly because the children in America were surrounded by unvaccinated adults for a lot longer. Not vaccinating children doesn't make them safer, ensuring unvaccinated children mostly encounter vaccinated people does.

The US took a year longer than the UK to reach a good level of vaccinated people.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/covid?time=earliest..2023-07-17&country=OWID_WRL~GBR~USA&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=false&Metric=Vaccine+doses&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+population=true

Some states barely ever reached 50% fully vaccinated. The correlation to death rates is considerable (after 2021).

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/covid19.html

The vaccination levels in various states by 2023 are here.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202065/population-with-covid-vaccine-by-state-us/

But you know all this, because I've already explained it to you.

[Just_Ken]

Why would that matter when children are disease magnets?

[goaded]

Incredible.

[Just_Ken]

I have kids, I know what im talking about.

In Germany, the COVID-19 vaccination rates for children and adolescents are approximately 22.4% for the 5-to-11 age group and around 61.3% for 12-to-17-year-olds. Uptake remains relatively low because the Standing Committee on Vaccination (STIKO) does not generally recommend the COVID-19 vaccine for healthy children without underlying medical conditions.

[goaded]

No, the fact that you can't see the obvious connection between being around a lot of unvaccinated people and catching the disease. (Or the fact that the children that died were almost certainly not vaccinated, like their parents.)

I don't suppose schools in many states implemented mask mandates or social distancing, either.

[Just_Ken]

Listen we vaccinate kids for everything from measles to meningitis. Adults can still spread covid to unvaccinated and if covid was as bad as they were telling us then kids should have been the first vaccinated

[goaded]

No US state mandates a covid vaccine for school children. By the time the vaccines were available, the danger posed to children was well known, and it made sense to give them to the most vulnerable to the disease.

Didn't Florida pass a law preventing schools for requiring masks?

[goaded]

Trump and Republicans killed a thousand children with their attitude towards Covid. Prove me wrong.

[Just_Ken]

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Schleswig-Holstein was a notable German state that initially resisted implementing compulsory mask mandates in classrooms, instead only recommending face coverings.
Because Germany's 16 federal states set their own education policies, school mask requirements varied significantly and evolved constantly throughout the pandemic:

Schleswig-Holstein: Kept mask-wearing voluntary during lessons when schools initially reopened in August 2020, relying instead on "cohort" systems and ventilation.

Berlin & Brandenburg: Initially only required masks in hallways and common areas, allowing students to remove them while sitting at their desks.

Hesse & Saxony: Allowed individual schools discretion on whether to make masks mandatory in the classroom during the early phases of school reopenings.

[goaded]

Trump and Republicans killed a thousand children with their attitude towards Covid. Prove me wrong.

Getting an AI to say something about Germany, especially without any statistics to say whether the differing approaches by German states made a difference, doesn't cut it.

At least they weren't lying to us, and were following scientific principles.

Why do Republicans want children to die? ↗

Florida is manipulating its covid death numbers! ↗ Is Florida hiding their covid numbers again? ↗

[Just_Ken]

You dont like the facts thats too bad. Both Germany and Britain didn't vaccinate the kids the way America did yet had fewer chikd covid deaths. Thats just a fact

[goaded]

It's also a fact that America didn't vaccinate everyone else, like Germany and Britain did, nor as quickly. Republican right-wing anti-vax nonsense is what killed those American children, not vaccinating them. Herd immunity - ever heard of it?

Where did you get the numbers for pediatric Covid deaths in the US?

[Just_Ken]

Key Rate Covid Vaccine Comparisons (End of 2021)
At Least One Dose:Germany: ~74% to 75% of the total population. United States: ~72% to 73% of the total population.

Fully Vaccinated (Completed Initial Protocol):Germany: ~69% to 71% of the total population. United States: ~62% of the total population.

[goaded]

Yes, like I said, it took the US longer to reach anything approaching full coverage of adults (who make up about 80% of the population), and thanks to fearmongering the vaccinated and unvaccinated are more likely to be in separate (Blue/Red) areas of the country.

80% of the deaths were unvaccinated people at the time, remember?

The 5 point difference between one dose and fully vaccinated is a lot less than the 11 point difference in the US; 6% of the US population was only partially vaccinated, 27% was totally unvaccinated.

Where did you get the numbers for pediatric Covid deaths in the US? Is there location or vaccination status associated with them?

[Just_Ken]

80% of people had preexisting health conditions

[goaded]

So, 2/3rds were vaccinated and made up 20% of the deaths, the other third made up 80% of the deaths. "Preexisting health conditions", or not.

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[Just_Ken]

Approximately 90% to 95% of all recorded COVID-19 deaths occurred in individuals who had at least one pre-existing health condition.

A landmark report by the World Obesity Federation discovered that approximately 90% of global COVID-19 deaths (2.2 million out of 2.5 million deaths recorded by early 2021) occurred in countries where more than half of the adult population was classified as overweight or obese.

[goaded]

How does that affect the fact that 2/3rds were vaccinated and made up 20% of the deaths, the other third made up 80% of the deaths, "preexisting health conditions", or not?

So Americans were both fat and stupid (refusing vaccines). What's your point?

[Just_Ken]

Funningly enough the result is the same all over Europe

[goaded]

I see you've given up on trying to defend any of your bogus claims.

[jshm2]

Because the vaccination was not 100% the plan, you simpleton.

What the fuck do you think the "sanitise your hands" was about? The social distancing? The lockdown? and all the other preventative measurews?

Were you living under a fucking rock?

[strateguy632]

2 possibility: a. people who died while they had covid, were listed as death caused by covid to make the number bigger than truth. to scare people. b. the vax caused added deaths. probably some of both!

[Mike_Hum]

The left in America destroyed a generation to protect old people from the sniffles.

[Just_Ken]

Exactly

[AviatorTom]

Maybe because the population of Britain is one-seventh the population of the United States?

If you look at the overall numbers, both the UK and USA had a COVID-19 death rate of about 3.5 people per million, no real difference.

[Just_Ken]

But didn't vaccinate thr kids...

[Cidknee]

Teachers, liberal and hates kids.