Why Men Should Make Up Their Minds About Women's Sexuality

[Anonymous]

On GirlsAskGuys, I see males complaining that they can't get laid/have sex, complaining that women are too choosy, complaining of the lack of virgin females, and being generally distrustful of a woman's sexual history.

Guys, you can't have it both ways! First, you want women to be more promiscuous and not so choosy. Then, you want women to be virgins or have less sexual experience than you do.

Make up your mind already!

Why?

1. Because women are human beings, not sex objects.

2. Because women deserve to be treated with respect, not discarded after use.

3. Because supporting women's freedom to delay sex until marriage or have sex in a relationship shows that you care enough to avoid pressuring women into sex.

4. Because virgin women are not made for your consumption and corruption.

[ManOnFire]

This is definitely all true, I get sick of the guys here complaining about this shit too.

However, females can't talk about supporting virginity but then saying it should be okay for a girl to sleep around without being slut-shamed. They can't say how admirable they think it is for a guy to be a virgin but then prefer men with sexual experience. And they can't talk about how guys are crap for wanting use a girl for casual sex, yet applauding other women for wanting/having casual sex if they want.

The guys here aren't perfect with their ideas and arguments, no doubt. But the females aren't either. By far.

[Heera]

totally agree

[ManOnFire]

@Heera Yeah, the chicks here don't have any better logic than they guys like they think.

[Heera]

Indeed, there are lots of hypocrites on both sides

[lost_alice]

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[pnl86]

Just to verbalize the counter-points:

True love waits... what is it waiting for?

Human beings, not sex objects... okay? Human beings (not just sex objects) engage in some kind of sexual activity.

Treated with respect... oh, I can't wait to hear the definition of the word "respect" and how it relates to "sex." Does not lead to a long-term relationship or marriage = "discarded"? Sounds like a very self-serving definition of respect. I would ask that society "respects" me by giving me a Lambo to drive, and that the girl "respect" me by doing anal on date #2. As Mark Twain said, "The world doesn't owe you anything, it was here first." Check your privilege.

Supporting women's freedom to delay sex... what about supporting a man's freedom to have sex? or "avoid pressuring men into waiting... until the man has invested loads of time and money into a person he may be sexually incompatible with"? Just saying... there's a flip-side to that statement, were the consequences are actually more costly than "just having sex."

Virgin women are not made... is there a factory somewhere that makes "virgin" women? What other kinds of women are manufactured besides "virgin" women? We are all born virgins and blank slates. The world consumes us and corrupts us. Watch "The Wall," and listen to "Welcome to the Machine." Life will chew you up, grind you, and then spit you out. How you survive the process is up to you. You can either be the coal that crumbles or the one that turns into a diamond. But nature never halted for any piece of coal that complained, "Stop trying to consume and corrupt me!" Welcome to life. It's not a safe place. It's not a bubble. It's not Utopia. It's life.

Sooner or later, someone is going to fuck you (and you are going to fuck someone), and there is no guarantee that this person will be your soulmate or partner for life. What has that person "taken" from you? Nothing. What have they "given" you? Life experience. They haven't popped your cherry. They've popped your fantasy world and introduced you to reality, and forced you to adjust to and cope with adulthood... where "sex" is not "inherently bad/evil."

That is all.

[EndofExistence]

1. Just because men have a natural sexual attraction to women does not equate to you being a sex objects. But todays women sell themselves as such so trust me when I say women don't need our help in that department.

2. For what just being a woman? That kind of thinking is dangerous to any sane person. Respect is earned as any man will tell you that's the case when its two men meeting for the first time. Having a vagina doesn't automatically get you respect, have a good character and don't be a cunt. That will net you the respect you think you deserve.

3. Women where the ones that demanded sexual freedom, so support it yourselves. You always go on about how strong and independent you are but follow up with us men need to help, pay for, or support XYZ. Do it yourself.

4. Men who want virgins are probably sex crazed themselves. Believe it or not men can have a preference and some want virgins because of the bond (ick) it can create in the relationship.

5. Stop thinking that everything is all about you, most women are inconsistent and flaky at best. The mental gymnastics we have to go through just to figure out the meaning of the shit you are saying says a lot.

6. Feminism is cancer. This sounds like over used gender studies paraphrasing.

[genuinlysensitive]

Guys have made up their mind. Stop listening to the trolls and assholes who tell you to be sluts and sleep around. THEY ARE THE MINORITY OPINION. Not only that they just want women for sex, they are the ones who view women as "sex objects" so stop listening to them, and stop dating them!

[C_L_K]

I think you should like the girl for who she is not for how many times she has or hasn't had sex, like, sex isn't the most important thing in a relationship dude. If she is nice and awesome why the fuck do you care how much dick she's gotten? She is interested on YOUR dick now, that's what matters. And if she doesn't want to get laid THEN LEAVE HER ALONE control your fucking penis for fuck's sake

[Mysterio421]

What about STD's?

[C_L_K]

@Mysterio421 well yeah, but you gotta watch out for those whether you're fucking guys or girls. Also, if you're in a relationship with her she should tell you and you should both have been checked before. If she wouldn't tell you if she had an STD then why are you dating her in the first place.

[MagiAlphaOne]

WOW! The girls are upvoiting this? YOU ARE STUPID!

1. The more sexual partners, the more likely you are to be unhappy in marriage... and to DIVORCE.
2. The more sexual partners, the probability of getting an STD increases. There are now 25 different STDs. Some can kill you!
3. STDs are becoming Antibiotic-Resistant. Lookup "Super Gonorrhea". And its going to get worse in the future.

NO THANKS. I'll pass on the "high mileage" Women!

[Heera]

@MagiAlphaOne 1 it's true because they don't get to know diversity and they become scared of giving themselves another chance so they just accept you even if they're not happy in the marriage anymore.

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry but you're misunderstanding the situation.

The subset of men you're talking about don't want women to be more promiscuous. They want women to only sleep with them. Sleeping with the one person isn't promiscuous.

Now of course, if a virgin woman is going to do that, it's probably in her best interests to get married first. If the man accepts that, good for him.

If the man just wants her to sleep with him once, or for a little while, then he is not confused. He is just very selfish.

Such a selfish man doesn't care what the woman does with herself after she's slept with him.

[MG-TOW]

I totally agree with you..

I think the big problem lies in guys simply adopting ideas from others without truly thinking about if those ideas actually make sense. Lot's of these ideas made sense a couple of thousand years ago but not in modern times.

[Doofey]

Perhaps the problem is that it is being assumed guys do both. In reality there are men with preferences one way and men with preferences in the other. Some men may like promiscuous women, but don't expect all of them to. One man does not represent all other men. This doesn't really have anything to do with viewing women as objects.

Are you saying there aren't women who call men fuckboys, olayers, and dogs, while others make fun of guys being virgins or lacking experience?

You need to accept that people have their preferences. Women have their preferences in men regarding muscles, height, age, experience, etc. So men should be allowed to preferences as well. If a guy doesn't like that you want to wait until marraige so what? Move on. If you don't want to wait until marraige and he does so what? Move on.

[Spiorad_Aisce]

Great take - That is the mirror image of my views as well - Maybe when some of the GaG male users hit puberty they might get more adult views
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[ManOnFire]

That is hilarious!!!

[Anonymous]

It's really not that complicated.

When women are promiscuous, they actually end up sleeping with fewer, not more guys, as a group. When women settle into monogamous relationships, they sort of pair up. But when being promiscuous, they can be more hypergamous, and many of them sleep with the most desired guys, and the rest with the 'above average guys'. the worst with average.

Promiscuity doesn't make it easier for below average guys to have sex, it actually makes it harder. It makes it MUCH easier for the more desired guys.

Now I'm not suggesting anything about what should or shouldn't be encouraged.

I'm just explaining the lack of contradiction. Promiscuity inherently means fewer men with more women.

[JohnDoe3000]

Is it really the same guys complaining about these conflicting things? I saw some examples where it was the same guy but I think usually it's different guys.

Ah, if only women being more promiscuous would make it easier for the average guy to get sex... it doesn't, it just means even more sex with more women for the minority of guys who already can get sex easily... Not that I want to tell women what they can or cannot do and I certainly don't want virgin women.

[ThatJarHead]

I can't argue but saying that men need to make up your mind is contradictory to your message. All I see here is recycled bullshit. The bottom line is: Who gives a fuck? Your sexuality is your deal. Why do you care what men think about it? Do what you want and fuck everyone else. Who cares what men or women think? Just do you and who cares about what people think?

[ObscuredBeyond]

Depending on her all-around attitude and health (no STDs!), I don't mind if a woman has been slightly tarnished by a previous man. But if I'm gonna treat her like a princess for life, I should at least be the honored knight worthy of her attention in return.

If all I am to her is an errand boy, then it's time to rid her of her sloth and find a more satisfying venture.

[Anonymous]

It's really not that difficult to understand. A man wants a women who is freaky, but is still a virgin or has had few sexual partners. Why?

1. Because we love sex.
2. A woman brings her womb to the table, a man brings protection and security for their offspring. Women KNOW it's their baby. Men can only trust that it's theirs. So a virgin is the safer bet, primal wise.

Women will never understand this thinking because you never had to think about a kid not being yours.

A girl wants a man that all women want. She wants a non virgin guy.

A man wants a girl that no man wants except for him. He wants a virgin girl.

Same reason why most women go for an older man and why men tend to go for younger women. Women like experienced men, men want an innocent woman.

[Anonymous]

Its not like any given dude wants every woman to be a slut and every woman to be a virgin. Different guys have different tastes and prefer different kinds of girls. Guys get conflicting advice from different girls all the time, and most are smart enough to know that different girls want different things from a man. It's not exactly complicated.

[astrOnaut01]

You are addressing us as a single entity. It's not as if we have bi-monthly meetings about women's sexuality and how we would prefer it..

[Flurr]

There is no way every man on earth will share the same opinion, thoughts, feelings and upbringing. This is impossible.

[Anonymous]

Nice take!

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed
3. Agreed
4. Agreed

But trouble is:
1. Decent guys are nice in general. And extra nice to a girl they like, but are taken for granted.
2. Girls seem to act innocent round them and less innocent/mind gamey with guys who don't care about them or who aren't boyfriend material
3. The minority of players who are louder and use/objectify women get the sex and her acting wild, and then through hitting and quitting her, all the other decent men are punished?

[Ghassan]

I know there are guys who are bad and awful just like you described, but I also at one point in my life liked guys more than girls because of how simple it is to be with one and hating girls who expect perfection or that are fake or the ones who talk with signals and say stuff and mean other stuff was the main reason I preferred guys at the time, but DNA didn't allow me to.

[Evilpumpkinman]

This is like a guy complaining about girls wanting a nice guy and a bad boy

[vidaloca]

So much yes to this MyTake! Same applies to how we view men. Respect, respect... and respect. Can't say it enough