My Take on Gender Equality and a Response To Men Who Think It's Okay To Hit a Woman (Page 2)
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ok you seem lost.
woman are not serial killers because woman are also not Einsteins or Shakespeare or tesla.
nature only takes risks with human males. if you look at a chart of a huge test group of females and males you will see that females constantly score in a safe margin of 99IQ which is pretty damn smart. but then you see men are all over the place from above 135 to below 70 at times.
look around your house and even the damn computer you're on, men have invented that. even in that article it says men take more risks, including with their health and well being, also social standing. we die for females, and create for females. we go to the moon because of the possibility that females will want us.
but look at you females on average live 10-15 years longer than men, on average suffer much less health problems, on average suffer less mental health problems, you are natures protected creatures.
so again this is why more men are serial killers, because there are also more genius men. you may not like it, but it was men who created the world, and it was woman who created men.
If a man seriously feels threatened by a woman, he has every right to defend himself. Yes, men on average have the upper hand in terms of physical strength. But remember that women can turn it around with a weapon, such as a knife or gun. He has the right to knock her out if that means saving his own life.
If his life isn't in danger, he should simply try to remove himself from the situation safely. This is something women should also try to do if they feel threatened by a man. Attacking is not the solution if it's unnecessary.
Equality doesn't mean that everyone has the right to assault whoever they want whenever they want, everyone should still try to refrain from being violent if it's not necessary. Slapping someone back because they slapped you is childish.
You just said what I was going to say so I won't repeat it. I agree. However, every time I point out the difference between self-defense and retaliation for the sake of equality, I get downvoted.
@Vesuvius87 sadly there are people out there who think retaliating just to protect your own ego is ok, which are the ones downvoting. A common thing among these people is also that they always bring up being able to hit women back when the topic of equality comes up. Like they're hungry for the chance to be able to hit a woman and justify it by saying it's just "equality". Sad really. Nobody should hit anybody just for the sake of hitting, it should always be out of self-defense. Any other kind of hitting is disgusting, regardless if it's done by a man or a woman.
This is exactly what I was trying to say in my post, but you definitely said it better. When I'm trying to get my point across I am always at a loss for words and it's hard for me to say what I'm trying to say in the best way possible. Great post!
Eh I agree and disagree a little. I think, when it comes to the women who seem so sure that this is her world and that she is entitled to attack men physically, that it is okay to hit her back. Why? Because then maybe it will shake off that disgusting entitled mindset early on and she won't think like that. In a way it could possibly even save her from ever trying it on a guy who, instead of hitting her back once or walking away, beat the living shit out of her.
You know, like when you did something bad, and was spanked for it? For some people (me), one hit was all it took to stop bad behaviour. For others, some mums hitting once rarely made them stop so I see some kids get a mighty ass whooping. And you know, when I saw that happen, I sure as hell didn't see them acting a fool again.
But that's just how I go about it. The few girl friends I've had learned fairly early not to hit me out of anger. A slap to me equaled a bloody nose to them just as it would to a guy. Nip it in the bud.
@Derpyy it might shake her out of that mindset but like I said, I disagree with any kind of violence unless it's for self-defense. I've never been fond of hitting someone back just to "teach them a lesson". If a guy gets assaulted by a girl then he should report her to the police. Maybe some jail time would teach her an even better lesson.
I can agree with that but how many times do actually hear of the cops and courtroom actually taking it seriously that a "defenseless little woman" needs jail time. Just like this woman who posted this Take, there are many that would feel him responding by calling the cops AND/OR hitting her back to both be overkill and that just... Isn't fair.
@Derpyy of course it's not fair, that's why it should be reported more often so that the stigma could be lifted. People would realize that it's a real issue. Hitting her back can only give her a reason to sue/report him. Due to the heavy double standard she would most likely win the case, even though she hit him first. And that's bullshit. Which is why reporting is a better idea than hitting back.
Hmm. I said, I agree and disagree and I think I am okay with that. I would just personally rather get it out of the way rather than waste time and money on the off chance that my case will win, based off of what someone who wasn't even involved with thinks (judge, jury, case worker). But to each their own. I sincerely respect your view on this, it just isn't for me and vice verse (or is it versa?).
Oh boy, "pro woman abusers". You're just another sorry, sexist woman who wants women to have equal rights without the corresponding responsibilities. Men who think it's "OK" to hit women have little to no interest in going around abusing women. They just don't think they should have to allow women to abuse them or hit them because women are "weaker". Well, if you're weaker and you attack someone stronger, that makes you an idiot. And if you get your face introduced to pavement, that makes you an unconscious idiot, and my sympathy for you will read zero.
You want equal rights. TEACH WOMEN not to hit anybody. TEACH WOMEN not to lay their hands on anybody. TEACH WOMEN to restrain their tempers and not resort to physical violence. TEACH WOMEN to be respectful to everybody, even people they disagree with. Avoiding physical altercation is EVERYONE'S job, not just men's. Learn that before you talk about equal rights.
If you dont want to get hit by a man then dont be a bitch and dont start fights. Its really that easy. The majority of men do not just go around hitting women.
You don't see little 5'6 160lb Johnny starting fights with 6'2 210lb George. There's a reason for that, maybe you should put some thought into why.
Preach it!
Men aren't idiots. You can't keep calling something "gender equality" and follow it up with "oh, but we can hit you but you can't hit us". Dress it up however you want, we see through your bullshit.
The first major problem is that there are many women out there who exploit these "men shouldn't hit women" to aid their manipulation of men.
The second problem is that height and weight mean nothing. I am taller and heavier than Rhonda Rousey, and I can guarantee you now that she can let me have 3 free punches, and one arm tied behind her back, and she'd still kick my ass.
Gender equality is important. Women should stop spinning bullshit like this to exploit men, and NEITHER men nor women should be hitting each other.
I'm not "pro-woman-abuser" but I'm certainly not going to let a woman attack me, I'll defend myself however I can. However, I wouldn't give her a hay maker because she slapped me or something like that.
If a woman is big enough to give a hit, she's big enough to take one.
This ^
omg... someone finally said it <3 i love you
I've been saying this for so long... its disgusting how many men area easily willing to hit a girl
just pathetic and honestly incredibly unmanly at all
its only ok if the woman is bigger/stronger and/or has a weapon or something... ike if his life was in danger
not just because he can't handle a little slap (Which is usually out of hurt/anger or w. e emotional slap) from someone smaller and weaker
GAG is a big reason im losing hope on men... i really hope the things i see here are not real
It's disgusting how many women are easily willing to slap a man just because she feels hurt/sad/angry. Just because women in general are weaker, it doesn't render the slap completely harmless. It's still hurtful and completely unnecessary. Women who do this need to learn just as much self-control as the men who feel the need to hit a woman when they're pissed off. It's fucked up that people think it's somehow "more ok" for a woman to hit a man just because she's probably smaller and weaker. No, it's not ok, it's still violence and still wrong.
who said anything about it being easily done? like i said its usually emotional, not really meant to cause pain
like in SEVERE distress it might happen
im not saying that women should do/resort to it, i'm just saying that its not a "fight" fight
and yea they are not the same
there was a video were a girl hit a guy, he barely felt it like the part she hit barely even moved and he was twice her size... yet she ended up with a bloody nose or soemthing
so no... not ok and not equal
Thank you anonymous, can't tell you how much I appreciate that! I'm no longer going to argue with these brainless, half-men on here, because it is pointless. But it's nice to know someone agrees!
"these brainless, half-men on here" hahaahahha but if you're just a kid xD You're not even a woman yet hahaha
well @Asker
youd be surprised there is a lot of actually nice/genuine guys on here lol
the others are just... louder lol
@AleDeEurope dude she is not 8 lol she is 16 xD
So you just want to hit men without getting hit back? Seems legit.
If you hit someone, expect to be hit back. If a weaker man hits a stronger man, you'd probably laugh if the stronger man retaliated. Why is this suddenly different when the weaker man is a woman? You're sexist.
@MissMc3 if you want a serious discussion, don't insult people who disagree with you. It just makes you look like an entitled, whiny bitch.
says who? i never said that
a man should not hit someone weaker, whether it's a woman, a weaker/smaller man, a child, someone old... etc
but the topic here is about women
@Kirah
and what did that other user say? i can't see her reply
If women are allowed to hit out in anger then by gender equality men should be allowed to hit out in anger as well. Saying you are weaker is an excuse that is being used to justify doing something you shouldn't be.
I hope almost no women have your opinion on this.
@ihatethiswebsite Don't worry. If you look at 95% of our posts here, you'll see that we don't.
No one should hit anyone! How about that?
If you hit me, expect to get hit back. Just because you have a vagina doesn't mean you can't be hit. Girls who hit guys with the expectation that they shouldn't hit back deserve to get knocked the f**k out.
Honestly, this is the most BLATANTLY SEXIST take I've seen here yet.
Reality is sexist.
This went really off-track.
"Men are 50 percent stronger than women in brute strength."
Have you ever been to a gym? I'm a lover not a fighter.
"are far safer drivers (sorry guys, but it's true)"
Could you tell the woman the tried to run me over on a red light this, she didn't even say sorry, worse, she stopped, cursed me and drove off. I mean really, can you not see that red light and this zebra crossing.
"Men should not be allowed or even comfortable hitting a woman"
Shouldn't this be "Neither men or women should be allowed or even comfortable with hitting the opposite gender"
"and according to recent studies, women should not be allowed or comfortable arguing with a man"
This just doesn't make sense, arguing is a natural human occurrence as people's views and differ.
Just because you had a bad experience with that female driver doesn't automatically disqualify the facts... I have a friend who teaches driving school and I asked him about this and he said that if you look at the number of accidents, the fatalities, the intoxication rates-it is predominantly male.
Women get into more wrecks than men. Men however tend to have more confidence driving, and as a result drive at higher speeds. As a result when a guy does get into a wreck, it is far more serious than all the little fender benders that women get into. As for who is the best and worse drivers, really depends on how you want to define what makes a better driver, since these studies ignore the larger percentage of guys not getting into any wrecks.
Actually men get into wrecks... strangely enough I do think men are better drivers. But I think that maybe that is what makes them more prone to accidents, because of over confidence and oak taking.
*risk
*into wrecks more
Sorry for the typos!
Plus, most of the surveys, she mentioned are pooled from a small sample of people. Research in statics are not that accure of the bigger picture of the population as a whole. I would be very skeptical of her claims because it not extensive and a excessive amount of data to back these claims up. Journalism like the hype everything.
Maybe i didn't portray my thoughts properly about the driving. What i was thinking was that the study was done in America (possibly just in New York) and maybe where the test was carried out women drive better than men but this is the internet so you can't use a study done in one place to describe the world's population of drivers.
In country X women drive better than men but in country Z men drive better than women.
That why her quotes and articles out of a magazines are not warrant and lack creditability because every study only pools from like 100 to 1000 people that are asked questions and studied. You can't make journalism claim vs university or institutes without a larger sample of people questioned over a period of years. Plus, better to have 50% or more institutions that do the same study and publish the same findings to back up her claims.. This is were journalism fails.
Fair enough. I guess until a credible and fair study is presented we are at a deadlock in opinions. But I do agree that sources always need to be listed!!!
I agree both sexes differ and what one lacks the other complements after all we where made for eachother, at least the heterosexual ones. Men shouldn't hit women but women shouldn't hit men and expect to not get hit back. Its basic human reaction to protect yourself. Plus, i know no women who will hit a man and think he won't hit her back only a dumb chick would think that. And women shouldn't argue with men non stop, but men should also realize when they want us to express ourselves and we are and your not listening it frustrates us, try not playing video games be and adult and pay attention.
I disagree with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-kThere are woman out there who think that, because of their gender, and because society agrees that "men can't hit them", they think they are empowered to do everything they want and they see themselves as superior. Which is ironic, since they are usually the same person that defend equality.
What's worse, there are men who still defend her, furthermore making it even clearer to her that she can do whatever she wants and get away with it.
Here's a perfect example:
This is what you're standing for.
I agree with the idea, but also, you've got to remember 40% of domestic abuse is suffered by men (and that's just when it's reported). So whilst I agree totally with what you're saying surely the right thing to say is that nobody is right to hit anybody? Gender is kind of regardless. But good myTake anyway!
It is actually worse than that. It found that 40% of the victims of severe, physical domestic violence are men. Meaning that number is just when things got serious. The number of men being the victims of domestic violence where it doesn't get that severe are much much higher.
If that's only the reported amount imagine the unreported amount. ..
Now that's depressing. ...
So stronger men are not allowed to hit back weaker men too? Or is that different because the weaker person has a penis?
Grow up already. You are the reason why gender equality is still not a thing. You should be proud of yourself (not).
Let's face it, you just want women to be able to hit men, without getting hit back.
@MissMc3 not all men are stronger than all women. This fact alone already defeats your entire argument. If this was really about strength, why aren't you advocating "strong people should not hit weak people"? Why specifically "men should not hit women"? Because you're sexist. You just don't want to admit it. Go back to the 1950's.
You know some of this stuff is just bs. Like with the iq ratings tests like that are varied they aren't fixed and everyone in the world has not done the test. And when men say it's fair to hit women it's not that we think since u want equal rights you can now go toe to toe with us. its you want equal rights so now when you hit me don't say I'm a female when I'm ready to hook or slap you like you did me. society has gotten crazy its too the point where women take advantage of the fact that we are men and are stronger. so we know we can't hit them back so they hold it over you. Not me my mother raised me to hit ANY body who raised theirhand to tstrike me no matter the gender.
Wow good post :-)
Thanks @nicole9356
So I'm 5'4 and around the same weight as most women or less. That gives me the right to hit women right? I don't know what my lung capacity is.
Let's not look at it from a gender perspective. Let's look at it from a human perspective. Should a human be comfortable arguing with another human? Should a human be comfortable hitting another human?
Keep your paws to yourself and keep your damn yapper closed and there won't be any problems. That's fair. Forget the rest of that stuff. Boy girl. Man woman. Alien animal. Don't run your lips and don't touch nobody. Plain and simple.
Ding Ding! We have a winner!
But it's okay for women to slap/punch the shit out of a guy? Even for no reason? No.
When people see a man slap a woman, he'd get years in jail.
When a woman does it twice as hard, she gets support. Like people think he deserves it.. Honestly it's horrible EITHER WAY.
Women shouldn't assault men. Men shouldn't assault women.
Easy as that.
If I seen a woman punching/slapping/kicking a guy and he slapped her in the face, I wouldn't do anything, cause she deserved it.
This right here.
God bless you. I am glad to see that more and more women are able to see the difference between abusing a woman, and defending yourself.
Thank you both ^ I'm glad people agree with me
I THINK IT'S OK 100% TO BEAT A WOMEN...
but only on a race track ;)
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But in all honesty If i women threatened me with a gun or knife or something that i think would hurt me i would hit her. If she slapped me or punched (which has happend twice to me by the same girl and i swear i didn't do anything bad) then i would not punch back but maybe like kick. I did kick the girl. But i mean i would not do anything back hard, unless my life was in danger.
forget all the other stuff because you simply found a study that matched up with what your trying to say and wrote it. If I look enough I would find something that states the exact opposite of what you wrote.
The issue is hitting women.
No intelligent person should ever need to his another person unless their life or safety is being threatened. this goes for women. Women seem to think they have a free pass to hit men and that is a big problem. but this goes for the idiot men that get into fights. what does it prove? your big and tough? no, it shows you don't have the mental capacity to reason.
I would never hit a woman unless she was threatening me or my family with physical danger of some kind. if she is, then she would be fair game.
My feeling on this is that hitting women falls under the same regulations as hitting another man. It's only okay to hit a woman (or another man) if that person hit him first. If a woman decides to attack a man then there is nothing at all wrong with his defending himself. If she's concerned about her lesser strength or lung capacity then she shouldn't go around hitting men.
It's not right to hit a man or woman but if either sex hits the other go for it. That's my opinion.
So is it not okay for a guy to defend himself if a short much weaker man attacks him? He should just try to hold him back? Based on what you've said you'd have to think so or are you really just sexist and trying to justify it?
Really that's just the average, some women are stronger and taller so is it not okay for that girl to defend herself? And just because a woman is weaker does NOT mean she's easy to control or that she can't hurt you.
You haven't changed my mind at all, couldn't disagree more.