Quotes From The Quran That Teach Love, Peace and Freedom of Religion

[Somali]

The religion of Islam is based on the teachings of the glorious Quran which came into existence 1400 years back. many people know misconception that Islam is a new religion which came into existence 1400 years ago and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the founder of this religion in fact Islam is there since man set foot on this earth and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the founder of this religion but he is the last and final messenger of Almighty God.

"And We have sent you to all the men as nothing but a bearer of good news and as a warner, but most men do not know. (Holy Quran: Surah Saba 34:28)

Indeed, the Prophet is a prophet of compassion sent not just for humankind, but for all realms of existence.

"And We have sent you but as a mercy to the worlds." (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Anbya 21:107)

Peace is the cornerstone

The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. Islam is a religion revealed to mankind with the intention of presenting a peaceful life where the infinite compassion and mercy of God manifests on earth. God calls all people to live by the moral values He sets so that compassion, mercy, peace and love can be experienced all over the world. Islam according to the Quran teaches love and compassion for every human being, no matter their religion.

“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Baqarah 2:208)

In the verse above, Islam intrinsically calls for peace and fosters a life in absolute sincerity and honesty before God. Therefore it is vitally important for an individual to believe in God with his own will and aspiration, and observe God’s commands and advice through personal conscientious contentment.

Freedom of religion and thought are paramount

“There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256)

As stated in the verse, no one can be compelled to live by Islamic morals. Conveying the existence of God and the morals of the Qur’an to other people is a duty for believers, but they call people to the path of God with kindness and love and they never force them. It is only God Who guides people to the right way. This is related in the following verse:

“You cannot guide those you would like to but God guides those He wills. He has best knowledge of the guided.” (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Qasas 28:56)

The Quran provides an environment where people can fully enjoy freedom of thought and freedom of religion and allows people to live by the faith and values they believe in. According to Islam, everyone has the right to live freely by his beliefs, whatever they may be. Anyone who wants to support a church, a synagogue or a mosque must be free to do so. In this sense, freedom of religion, or freedom of belief, is one of the basic tenets of Islam. There is always freedom of religion wherever the moral values of the Qur’an prevail.

That is why Muslims also treat Jews and Christians, described in the Qur’an as “the People of the Book,” with great justice, love and compassion. God says in the Qur’an:

“God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Holy Quran: Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)

Compete with each other in doing good

Muslims who share these basic values believe in the need to act together with Christians and Jews. They therefore strive to eliminate prejudices stemming from provocations by unbelievers and fanatics. Jews, Christians and Muslims should strive together to spread moral virtues across the world.

God explicitly states that the existence of people from different faiths and opinions is something that we have to acknowledge and welcome heartily, for this is how He created and predestined humankind in this world:

“We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:48)

In acknowledgment of this fact, Muslims have an inner love and compassion for people of all faiths, races and nations, for they consider them as the manifestations of God in this world and treat them with an heartfelt respect and love. This is the very basis of communities administered by Islamic morality.

The values of the Qur’an hold a Muslim responsible for treating all people, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, kindly and justly, protecting the needy and the innocent and “preventing the dissemination of mischief”. Mischief comprises all forms of anarchy and terror that remove security, comfort and peace.

“God does not love corruption”. (Holy Quran: Surah Al-Baqarah 2:205 )

Thank you for reading and please leave comment in the opinions section below.

[legs_n_sheets]

4:34 “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great.”

So that's why Muslims beat the crap out of their women. How cute :3

Check this list for more of these loving verses:
worldmediamonitoring.com/list-quran-hate-quotes/

[Dimmu]

Actually the word "ضرب"used now as beat
But in Quran it was always used as " show"
Even in places that has nothing to do with women

Read it yourself instead of reading what others think of it
Listen from Muslims women how they feel instead of listening to others saying what Muslim women feel

[legs_n_sheets]

@Dimmu Ah, I see. Well, I've seen how muslim act enough so it's easy to understand where why they act that way just by knowing these things about the coran.

5:33

“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”

So "slaughtered" means something else, too? Or "crucified"? Because "hands and feet shall alternately be struck off" seems pretty direct to me.

8:12 "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

So full of love.

[Dimmu]

Why don't you read the whole 5th ,8th chapter yourself?
It's like saying " if someone tried to kill me, I'll kill him" , then you take " I'll kill him " and claim I wanna kill others
Context
I dunno what you have been told about how Muslims act
But just for facts westerns has invaded Muslims and middle East more than 11 times
While Muslims or middle Eastern only invaded Europe twice
Do the math

[Dimmu]

I know you won't read, and I know you don't care, you just like what you think but I'll say it anyways

8 is about torturing Muslims in Makkah , and forcing them to move out, that's simply because Mohamed was for equality and rich doesn't like that, And he was against slavery and treating Women like shit
That's probably when you will show your ignorance about Mohamed bio, but before saying crap like he was obsessed just know that his first marriage, he married a women older than him by 20 and he didn't marry again until his wife died and he was about 50
, that pretty much explain why most of
converts are women

And yea , judging age preference standards of 1400 years ago by now's standards is silly, check European history , girls used to marry by 9 too in Europe at that time

READ PEOPLE

[NatashaJ]

@Dimmu Clap clap bravo showing this fool up, seriously he has the nerve to link a article by a white people who hates Muslims lol and he calls that credited.

[NatashaJ]

of course you use a site where a person who has something against Muslims like you to back up your claim even thou it shouldn't count for anything other than its prejudice.

[Dimmu]

@NatashaJ all i am asking people to is to read the things themselves
people are so desperate to hate islam that they would deny basic logic
i won't change anyone beliefs, i am just showing them that they might be wrong so they would be encouraged to educate themselves and read more, i won't do others homework

i can respond to each claim on that site, not cause i am too smart, only cause i read the whole thing and it becomes clear that its about avoiding violence more than violence, than there is the part when you have to fight for yourself or punish a rapist or something
, people take that part and leave the whole thing as a prove that islam is violent
its not a prove islam is violent
its a prove that you are desperate

[Dimmu]

@NatashaJ
hating islam for extremist is denying history
extermist has a tiny number of victims compared to westerns
noone hates america for nukes
west has invaded middle east more than 11 times, but i dont hate westerns cause each to his own
but they are victims too, its a mind control process, so they can be sure that oil is sold in dollar otherwise the dollar will collapse
its an economical stuff you can search for "petrodollar" for more credential info
when someone being told that x is bad all day and night , it becomes a fact to him. even if he didn't hear from x or even if everything shows that x is not bad

[NatashaJ]

@Dimmu Well Americans have a habit to make up their own shit, there some of them who think they won the war of 1812 between them and Canada. So yeah they are ignorant as fuck!

[Dimmu]

@NatashaJ some people want to feel special but they are losers
so they like to feel that special about their color or nationality , they feel good over nothing cause they have nothing to feel good about

[legs_n_sheets]

@NatashaJ calling me a piece of shit and calling americans ignorant fucks really tells who is the real fool and ignorant here.

I did answered to the other guy in a dofferent opinion. I can't follow his interpretations and version of the context of those paragraphs. All I am able to do is reference these and give him modern to context, in which I used another opinion's comment.

As for you, educate yourself. I'm not even going to report that so everyone is able to see your ignorance.

[NatashaJ]

Oh really you can here insulting Islam trying to prove what most of you white Americans that Islam is. Then use a. com site who shares your views and trying to pass it off as fact when you never read the Quran so you have no place to talk about it. If anything you and all other Americans who are trying to talk about a religion you know nothing about is very in fact ignorant.

[Dimmu]

I can't follow his interpretations and version of the context of those paragraphs?
there is only one context and one version, its not like Christianity
and by educate yourself i mean read the whole thing yourself
only ignorant people who consider educate yourself as an insult,
i always educate myself ,
but i dont speak about something unless i know a thing about it

[NatashaJ]

@Dimmu Exactly he calling me ignorant when he not going to bother reading it.

[Somali]

I have writen a take on women's rights in Islam you may check it out: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a28027-all-about-women-s-rights-in-islam

[Dimmu]

huh
i did answer , but i didn't say the answer you want to hear thats why you didn't see it
i explained in details how its works ,
if a muslim or anyone thinks gays should be killed according to islam, i would ask what their opinion based on, and if many muslims agrees on something that doesn't make it islamic lol,
i am telling you even scholars dont have authority , and you want to give it to ordinary people,
you said the punishment of gays appears in coran
show it to me please , may be you are right

and i am not going in circles, you are trying to demonize a mentality and i showed you that this mentality is much peaceful than the so called"civilized"mentality

i wonder what type of youtube video from the other point of view did you watch, or even a subjective vid
you dont even wanna look for it yourself, you wanna base your idea on what others think
no islam doesn't go like this
did you even look up when should adultery punished by death?

[hellionthesage]

So is that the original Quran or the version created by politicians? Is it the authentic version or translated so many times that it was shifted teachings to mean different things (like how in the bible jesus teaches about forgiveness yet later on that part gets ignored because politically it was as affective as the "fear me" parts they wrote in). Its like blaming scientist for eugenics and social Darwinism, it wasn't them it was politics. Research and learn the history and you will realize that pretty much every ideology that is as you would say filled with "hate speech" is because of politics (that's why we have so many subdivisions of religions because nobles started to realize they could use it to manipulate people if they twisted the religion enough.)

[hellionthesage]

@Dimmu Well stated. You also forgot to mention when Christians where experiencing terror attacks during mass it was muslims who stood outside their churches and guarded them as they went to worship a god that was not theirs. Pretty damn tolerate if you ask me. But its quite common for people to conflate politics and religion and that's the problem.

[Dimmu]

@hellionthesage actually in my street, the church block the street when there is festival
and the mosque is on the other side of the road , and doesn't do that
on the other hand the church just hanged out a big banner for muslims eid

[hellionthesage]

@Dimmu Well my point was that people focus on one thing, the violence which of course if that is all you focus on and you ignore the more frequent good things and the even more common and frequent neutral then of course ones view is going to be skewed.

[Anonymous]

Nice Take

[Somali]

thank you I am glad you liked it

[Opinion Owner]

No problem :)

[Anonymous]

Way to go, just hide the bigoted parts of the quran and project the others and when questioned about the bigoted parts, use fallacious arguments to prove that the critics understanding is wrong.
Quran refers to the non believers as "the worst of creatures", its very own measenger killed and obliterated the pre islamic pagan arabia, even your holy site is tainted with the blood of the pagans, just because your so called messenger wiped them out doesn't mean it belong to you. Quran doesn't teach any love, peace, or freedom, the only thing it teaches are hatred, violence, and captivity.
Allah is the source of all bloodshed, wars, loots, rapes, terrorism in the history of mankind. And his beloved messenger Muhammad has led the world thousands years back in darkness, wars, blood , and cries of pain. But, pure morals and conduct was marrying a 6 year old, marrying his daughter in law, massacreing thousands of Jews, Pagans and Christians, licking his grandson hasan's lips and p£n! s and much more. Science he gave to the world was that the earth is flat, sun sets in muddy springs, stars are decorations and missiles for shooting the devils. Yes, greatness he gave after bloody military conquests as we see in the persecution of syriac christians, jews, yazidis, zoroastrians, ahmadiyyas, bahais, shias, hindus, buddhists, and many more civilizations.

[Hjominbonrun]

Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

Defend that.

After reading this, I am not surprised by the behaviour of the people who behead non-muslims.
It is obvious why they do it.
So yeah, Islam is a religion of peace... TO OTHER MUSLIMS ONLY ( if they are the right type of muslim of course).

[Somali]

I have posted a video explaining everything including this verse.
if you can't watch all 40 minutes then just forward to 27:37.
Question title: Is Islam the Solution for Humanity?
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2103132-is-islam-the-solution-for-humanity

[capturemyheartnow]

Thank you somali for presenting a wonderful article. The main points I am taking home are speak the truth , Keep a promise , fulfill your trust , avoid sexual immorality , lower your gaze , restrain from injustice. Have faith and love one another. Don't do any evil. Be kind and forgiving. This is a true picture of Islam. People seem to associate terrorism , jihad and mass killing with Islam. And not to forget the divorce law of triple talak. I hope your readers will now see Islam in proper light. Thanks.

[skeptic002]

FREEDOM OF RELIGION IS THE WORST THING POSSIBLE

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AND THE PERSON WHO WANTED THAT WAS GEORGE WASHINGTON I WONDER WHY HMMMMMM?

MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS A FREE MASON AND PART OF OCCULT PRACTICE
AND HE WANTED FREEDOM FOR HIS RELIGION

AND WHAT IS FREE MASONARY
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[Callieeee]

So long as you ignore the bad parts of your religion and highlight the good parts and follow those, I'm cool with people being Muslims, because they're people first and Muslims second, and I like people😊

BUT, that doesn't mean I have to respect a belief in the supernatural, whether it's haunted houses or invisible sky wizards lol. Sorry, staunch atheist checking in😜

[Somali]

there are no bad parts in Islam. there are bad Muslims and those are the people who do not follow the Islamic teachings yet claim to be a Muslim.

[Callieeee]

Well, Islam is a spinoff/revamp of Judaism and Christianity. Same characters, same stories, slightly altered history and lots of semantics over definitions and meanings, but more or less the same principles throughout.

1. Humans are pieces of shit and unworthy, yet simultaneously chosen and special
2. love a not just invisible God, but a completely undetectable God, while at the same time fearing him.
3. those who obey the book (bible or quaran) will go to heaven, and those who don't will burn in hell.
4. Those who believe will go to heaven, and those who don't will burn in hell
5. We are the only true religion and we must make as many people as possible believe like us.
6. Apocalypse is coming and we need to get ready or help it happen if possible.

you could write a book on the implicit "bad parts" of just those basic principles, in fact many have, and you could do case studies on the mental gymnastics required to square all that nonsense with reality, but I digress

[hellionthesage]

Unfalsifiable sky wizards are ridiculous, about as ridiculous as a unfalsifiable magical explosion in space. Besides all the bad parts are not actually the religion its the politics (same goes for all western religions. That's why they can tell you not to kill (religion) and then tell you to kill the enemy of the church/theocracy (politics). People just need to be able to differentiate them. Its kind of like saying your cool with people believing in science so long as they stick to the good parts and not the bad (like eugenics and social Darwinism both practiced heavily and used to descriminate against other races, cultures and economic/social classes). None of those bad things where actually science they where politics. Same thing with religion.

[Callieeee]

@hellionthesage wrong. Science is the method by wich one determines what is or is not true. Science does not claim to be a system of morality like religion does, which is why eugenics is not science it's philosophy. If I create a hypothesis, set up an experiment, and discover a new fact about reality, that's the extent of the scientific method. It doesn't tell me how to implement this new knowledge, we have to debate and decide this based upon our own senses of right and wrong.

Yes politics is a part of the equation, it's a pretty big of it actually, but I'm convinced that the ignorance and self justifications in religion, especially Islam, has exasperated the scope of dissent and violence throughout history.

Also, science has never called the Big Bang "magical". Still a God of the gaps argument because although we don't know every detail about the big inning of the universe, we at least have the humility to admit we don't know. You do not.

[hellionthesage]

actually the definition of science is : the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
Truth comes in many forms and most fields of study from psycology and history to philosophy all try to find the truth (all of them by the way are not sciences yet all have contributed to our understanding of the world around us and of ourselves). Eugenics was based upon scientific principles as was social Darwinism, my reason for stating this was to point out that science being used by humans can also be manipulated by humans. For instance we claim the big bang theory is what created the universe despite the fact that by definition it is not a theory, it has no evidence for it it does not follow the scientific method in any way and has at best correlary mathematical evidence (which of course requires the assumption that we are not missing any variables in order to be true).

[hellionthesage]

Islam has actually been the least violent of the western religions and currently all violence that has currently been commited has been almost entirely politics ISIS the terrorist attacks all politics. In fact the reason why where even having these issues now is because of the cold war collapsed most of the middle easts economy and they where pitted against each other in the name of Communism (for the sovieits) or democracy (for the US). So even that was created by politics. As for your last comment your right science has never called it magical just as religion doesn't refer to god as magical, that was your attempt to dride the idea of god but my point was to point out tha the big bang theory (hypothesis) which was just as unprovable yet fully accepted again despite no evidence supporting it.

[hellionthesage]

As for humility, no that's the problem they claim to know even though as I pointed out they do not. They claim their is no god but they can't prove it, we don't even have an agreed upon definition of god beyond the generic creative force (which can be applied to most anything) also their are many scientists who are religious or at least not against it: www.sciencedaily.com/.../110921115923.htm
As for claiming my opinions, I am not arguing that their is or is not a god, I am pointing out that your reasoning for believing in no god or the superiority of science is no different then a religious persons. If one makes a claim they have to be able to prove it this holds true for atheist as much as it does theist yet that is precisely what you are trying to argue against. If their is no god prove it. If their is a god prove it. It is the same expectations for both (and all) parties. I am not religious I am agnostic I do not claim knowledge where their is none, unlike you and theist.

[Callieeee]

@hellionthesage well, you said a lot there didn't you😄

Ok, let's try this: how about the next time you go to cook your meal, take all the ingredients and set them on the counter, then pray and see what happens?

The next time you get an infection, why don't you screw the hospital and just pray to your God and see if that fixes anything?

If you want to go to the moon, don't build a rocket or anything that scientists and engineers would do, just pray for God to take you there and see what happens.

The difference is SCIENCE FUCKING WORKS

Everything you have is because of science. Everything you're looking at right now is a reason to use science over religion.

Eugenics is a terrible application of scientific knowledge. And people use religion in tyrannical and awful ways as well. But this is the point: we can do without religion, but we can't do without science.

[Callieeee]

Religion is the claim that there is a specific, personal, intervening, prayer answering creator of all that exists and you are his special chosen people. That's the obsurdity and don't you forget that's what it is because agnosticism is not religion and neither is plain deism or just believing in "something" transcendent.

[Callieeee]

I'm sorry but All your bullshit and baggage goes with the theism and makes it utterly retarded to believe in.

And what part of "we don't know" did you miss? The Big Bang theory isn't something intuitive that we've proven, but its the best naturalistic explanation we have. You on the other have faith in something you assert to be the truth do you not? Do you believe What you believe is undeniable truth? Do you have the evidence to back that assertion up? Do you have anything empirical that could give the slightest credence to your gods existence? No you don't

Science on te other hand has unlocked the mechanics of the physical world. We've described the laws by wich it operates and if you'd like and I can prove to you this instance that science is right about the nature of physics. Would you like me to do that?

[hellionthesage]

Again you are making an illogical argument. At no point did I say I was religious, in fact I stated the opposite I am not religious yet you continue to make this an argument about me being religious which is not only a straw man argument (as you are ignoring my original statement which pertained to you making the very same illogical arguments as theist) but also trying to use that straw man argument as a dismissal of me as you continue to paint me as religious and their fore some one to simply ignore without providing evidence or an argument to counter my point. According to scientific thought we cannot exist. This is scientific fact, you cannot create nor destroy matter/energy you can only change it which means it cannot exist since that would require it to be created. We have the universe which requires either something from nothing (magic, which by the way would be the only explanation for the hypothesis of the big bang which is accepted as truth despite the flaws)

[hellionthesage]

which is impossible or the universe has always existed (in some form or another) which is also impossible according to science because it would require an action without a cause, it simply exists (kind of like the argument for why god can't exist who created god? Well who created the big bang? See same premise same argument both flawed). So that argument is illogical and irrational. Also by claiming science is the apogee of thought is flawed because that has yet to be seen, its as flawed as claiming that science is better then religion as religion literally created science. It was religious thought that drove it (why do you think each one tries to explain the universe?) it was alchemist who where trying to understand the nature of god of the universe and of man who created what is now known as the scientific method (and as the name gives away those alchemist where muslim for the most part) So no, without religion we would not have science it is the progenitor of science.

[hellionthesage]

Claiming science works is also absurd since the very foundation of science is proving itself wrong. Each thing science learns generally speaking gets replaced as we learn more, Newtonian physics was science until quantum mechanics at which point it was proven false and that it didn't work. Science is a tool to gain understanding but when you start worshipping it as a religion (that is unquestioningly) it becomes scientism and ideology no longer a tool to use to further thought and understanding but a way of manipulating others and creating division (as you are doing and many other atheist). You never questioned your own thinking, if god does not exist then prove it? No one thus far has been able to do so therefore claiming their is no god is claiming something as fact, as truth despite having no evidence to prove that claim which is no different then a religious person claiming god does exist. Your argument is exactly the same as a religious persons you have not evolved your thinking

[hellionthesage]

You have simply taken the same way of doing things and changed the title and that's why I pointed that out. Whether you believe their is no god or do not, whether a muslim/Christian/jewish person believes or does not believe is irrelevant, the fact is your thinking is exactly the same and until that changes, until you acknowledge the limitations of our understanding of the world by admitting that we don't know how we exist (since its contradictory in nature) your going to continue to fall to the same short comings that you profess to be above. As for existing without science, yes actually we can because we have. We don't need science to eat we don't need religion to breath so we don't really need any ideology to continue functioning bushmen have been doing this since the beginning living without science or religion so it can and is done. Science is a tool not a religion once you forget that your only inviting the same problems into it as every other ideology.

[hellionthesage]

And no religion isn't about a being that intervenes at any opportunity if you wish hard enough. Your notion of religion is based upon a very narrow uneducated view. You have theist who reffered to god as the divine watchmaker to explain how everything seems to work and function yet seems to do so without any intervention. You have the notion of Brahmin which is the idea that all things are apart of god and individuality is an illusion, for instance you look and you see quirks which are separate yet when you step back its really an atomic particle then an atom then a molecule then tissue then an organ then a living being and then life and then so on and so forth until you get to god who does not intervene any more then we intervene when one of our cells die. You have created an oversimplification of religion in order to better attack it but you completely ignored religion and the many many ideas of what god is (spenoza a philosopher considered god to be the equation of existence).

[Callieeee]

@hellionthesage you're not listening bro, the burden of proof is on YOU. I don't need a god to explain anything because naturalistic explanations have been discovered. Your worldview is the one that needs a god to function so all you need to do is square that assumption with your own logic and if you can, great.

But, if you bring your bullshit to the rest of us and say "you're naturalistic explanations are garbage and God is the truth" you better come prepared to prove it. If you believed in leprechauns you'd demand that I prove those false too. You're right in that I can't do that, but I don't have to because their was never a reason to believe in them in the first place.

[hellionthesage]

Clearly your not listening I am not religious I do not have a god I do not claim to believe in any god nor do I claim to believe in an absence of god. SO why do you keep claiming that I have to defend a religious idea if I am not religious nor do I hold the idea as true? Clearly your not listening. Further more if you make a claim then yes you have to prove it you don't get to claim a belief and not have it questioned, not have to prove it to be true. As I pointed out your naturalistic approach has continued to fail to explain a lot, as I pointed out the big bang theory itself is unscientific but as scientists who are human are loathe to admit ignoranc they came up with an idea that was not sound because it was better then "I don't know" in their minds. So again you are not listening and this is precisely why I make these arguments you sound exactly like the religious people you bash because you are one you simply changed the name.

[Callieeee]

I don't worship science. I respect it as the closest thing we have to the truth and you're right the greatest thing about science is that we can discover more and more and add to the wealth of knowledge we've uncovered.

It's clear I'll never get anywhere with you.😞 Not suprising however, when's the last time a Muslim contributed anything notable to discovery? The culture religion and mindset is in direct opposition of education and it only leads to sinking deeper into poverty, violence, and resentment of people live in the real world. You have my pity.

[hellionthesage]

So let me reiterate this yet again, I am not religious. I do not belong to any religion, I do not believe in god or anything else. So again one more time for good measure, I AM NOT RELIGIOUS. I DO NOT BELONG TO ANY RELIGION. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD OR ANYTHING ELSE. So now that that is out of the way, you can now address the issues I pointed out instead of making a straw man argument, to clarify, you can prove your stance with evidence instead of trying to make an illogical argument about something completely unrelated to the initial point which is that you are using the same argument as theist do to prove them wrong which is essentially "god doesn't exist and your stupid and evil for doubting that." vs. their argument, "god does exist and your stupid and evil for doubting that." See same argument subject to the same illogical flaws. If something is true it must always be true, if they need to prove their argument then so do you you are not exempt from this.

[Callieeee]

@hellionthesage just because you use the word "straw man" doesn't mean you actually know the correct application of the term😒 Sorry ok? I missed where you said you weren't religious so calm your tits.

I however, will not do you the favor of repeating everything I just said. My last post literally addressed that point.

[hellionthesage]

A straw man argument is where you make an argument that at first glance seems to deal with the initial statement but when examined is actually arguing about something else entirely. I stated that your arguments where exactly the same as the religious peoples arguments, you started arguing that I was essentialy stating that because I was religious (which I had already mentioned previously because to be perfectly blunt that is the first thing atheist do when questioned). Your post did not address anything you stated you do not need to prove anything even when you make a claim which of course is unscientific. You claim that their is no god but do not need evidence for it, why? the heliocentric solar system model was proposed quite early on but since they didn't have the math to prove it they where deemed wrong, so absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence ergo if you make a claim you either prove it or don't make the claim (hence me being agnostic).

[Somali]

@Callieeee please watch video I have posted in this question (Is Islam the Solution for Humanity?) www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2103132-is-islam-the-solution-for-humanity

and give your opinion on in this other question (What are your thoughts on Muslim in general?) www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2109383-what-are-your-thoughts-on-muslim-in-general

please @Callieeee watch it and if you have any question, please ask me, just send me a message.

NOTE:
The religion of Islam is based on the teachings of the glorious Quran which came into existence 1400 years back. many people know misconception that Islam is a new religion which came into existence 1400 years ago and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the founder of this religion in fact Islam is there since man set foot on this earth and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the founder of this religion but he is the last and final messenger of Almighty God.

[Somali]

@hellionthesage even though you said that you are not religious you have said a lot of things about religion and I can't reply to everything you said. I don't have time but I just want to tell you that if you have any question about Islam, ask me and if you do not have question then please do not reply to other people's opinions.

if you want to know about the concept of God in major religions please watch the video I have posted in the question (What is God in your religion?) www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2114903-what-is-god-in-your-religion

since the question is closed you can give your opinion here or (www. girlsaskguys. com/.../q2109383-what-are-your-thoughts-on-muslim-in-general) or you can just send me a message.

[hellionthesage]

Yes I have said a lot of things, I have been studying it for over two decades. I will respond to any statements made that I feel are inaccurate or illogical so I don't know what that part was supposed? As for my feelings on muslims its the same as for any one else, some are good people and others are not, the religion does not dictate who they are their actions do. I have several friends who are muslim they are good people, some muslims are not just like every other religious, ideological, or racial group.

[takumii]

My favourite one is this
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

blog.redheart.com/.../Jenny-Marquis-4.jpg
YAY!

[Dimmu]

Why you read 8:12
And not the whole 8 chapter?
Context

[Hjominbonrun]

@Dimmu explain what context it is right to chop of fingers.

[Dimmu]

@Hjominbonrun
if you just read the whole 8 chapter, it was said earlier in this chapter that its talking about when the rich people tortured to muslims and made living too hard for them that they were forced outta their homes
i am stating the contest as if finding it is so hard or as if you wanna to know

the irony is that the nations that too violent that they invaded middle east about 11 times are complaining about the violent in islam while muslims only invaded Europe twice
do the math 2 or 11?

[takumii]

@Dimmu I read the whole chapter 8 no shit like that.

[Dimmu]

8:5
[It is] just as when your Lord brought you out of your home [for the battle of Badr] in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,

badr was the first battle after what i have mentioned , they were tortured and was forced to leave islam , and was bein killed so mohamed moved out to save muslims from korysh, he moved to al-madina, organized his people then fought korysh

please dont believe me, double check what i am saying

[takumii]

@Dimmu so the words In the bracket are what you wrote or what allah wrote?

Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses and all the kings men (king of the north)
Couldnt put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

[takumii]

@Dimmu I'll post the next few lines as well to prove that its not about the war, specifically against the disbelievers.
12. Your Lord inspired the angels: “I am with you, so support those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike above the necks, and strike off every fingertip of theirs.”
13. That is because they opposed God and His Messenger. Whoever opposes God and His Messenger—God is severe in retribution.
14. “Here it is; so taste it.” For the disbelievers there is the suffering of the Fire.

[Dimmu]

huh, thats happen when you argue with someone have no idea about what you are talking about
no actually all the verse i wrote myself cause the verse is in arabic exactly like this from 1400 years ago
" كَمَا أَخْرَجَكَ رَبُّكَ مِن بَيْتِكَ بِالْحَقِّ وَإِنَّ فَرِيقًا مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ لَكَارِهُونَ"

and it was talking about badr
what is badr , ok read to understand
en.wikipedia.org/.../Muhammad_in_Mecca#Persecution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegira
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_Medina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badr

but you wanna neglect the part that is saying its not against the disbliever just to prove your point
ok , fine with me, i just thought you may want to know what it was REALLY about
and what proves my point is 8.19 and 8.61, it just proves my point and deny yours, if you have really read it all

i wonder whats your education level?

[takumii]

@Dimmu So Sherlock , how come badr is mentioned nowhere in the entire chapter even once? Just slipped the translator's mind? Rather than generating imaginary context, MOST people reading would take it literally. and those are The quotes terrorists must draw inspiration from and brainwash poor children into suicide bombings.
Oh and I failed kindergarten thrice in case you're wondering. I guess I could say, Allah wasn't with me on that one. Does that make you feel better?

[Dimmu]

Nah it doesn't make feel better, you can say I already knew that
, how should you have known that?
You just don't read something you don't understand and imagine what it might be

You should have stopped at this verse and asked what is that , oh it's badr what's badr about and so on
But I made it easy for you , I gathered some links talking about this

How to understand it's not against disbelievers?
8:61 it's clear in undeniable way that Muslims are forced to war and shouldn't do war unless there's no other option

I asked you not to believe me and double check what I said

[takumii]

@Dimmu hehe what can I say.. I didn't get time to study coz I was too busy reading Namaz 5 times a day, and the usual.. making bomhs and stuff.

You're right I should had stopped at that verse and asked "what is badr?" (Badr isn't mentioned even once in that whole chapter) but I shoulda still asked that. So what if it isn't mentioned, badr is such a famous word.
Talk about making sense, take classes in it. You need it brah.

[Dimmu]

you just read stuff you dont understand and let it go
it says in English "[It is] just as when your Lord brought you out of your home in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,
ok, did you understand what is bringing out of your home about?
what about 8:61 , impress me and tell me how didn't you get it

and yea i asked about your education level , cause there is a correlation between education and accepting islam

[NearlyNapping]

It's completely irrelevant what the Quran says. The only thing that matters is what people do. If I ask myself if the world would be better off with or without Islam, the answer is going to be without. The entire world could breath a sigh of relief if that religion completely disappeared from the planet.

[madhatters4]

the Quran has many beautiful teachings. but sadly there are also negative ones

pretty common in religious text though. the Bible certainly has it's fair share of wonderful messages and lessons but also plenty of really negative things as well

[Somali]

The quran is the solution to human problems and there is no a single verse against humanity in Quran. those negative verses are misinterpreted ones and if explained well anyone with logic will understand.

[madhatters4]

well anything can be misinterpreted but the words are literally there. the same words that are literally there that are positive are literally there that are negative. we can't parse it up and say well these good words are literal but the bad or harmful messages should actually be looked at this way.

the simple fact is most religious texts have verses in it that if applied throughout humanity would support violence, discrimination, or hatred. of course every individual is free to decide which verses they chose to ignore as being negative and subscribe to because they are positive but we can't deny that those verses (positive and negative) are there

[Somali]

I have posted 40 minutes video explaining everything Please watch it this is very important video it even answers why I am saying and the negative quotes in the quran.
Question title: Is Islam The Solution for Humanity

[Hjominbonrun]

There are beautiful teachings and negative ones.
Does that imply that it is true or false.

[Saoirse_Nua]

Thank you for a lovely take - I have always believed that Islam is a religion of peace - Stay strong real Muslims are getting attacked from both sides.

[Somali]

@Saoirse_Nua Thank you
@Dimmu one person

[Anonymous]

This is a great myTake. It's one of those things that people like to overlook. Ignore all the hateful comments on this, they truly don't know anything about Islam.

[jacquesvol]

I like your take. Too bad some Muslims and Christians only know about other verses.

[Somali]

those verses are misinterpreted otherwise there is no a single verse against humanity in Quran.

[Hjominbonrun]

What utter Bollocks. These verses are just against apostates. Not enemies or bad muslims.
I guess your first defence will be "Out of context!!!".
Quran (4:89)
Quran (9:11-12)
Sahih Bukhari (52:260)
Sahih Bukhari (83:37)
Sahih Bukhari (84:57)
Sahih Bukhari (89:271)
Sahih Bukhari (84:58)
Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65)
Sahih Bukhari (11:626)
Abu Dawud (4346)
al-Muwatta of Imam Malik (36.18.15)

[Anonymous]

Lol who r u kidding? there no difference between radical and normal muslim

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huthzhiGj2U

[legs_n_sheets]

@Dimmu, I appreciate the long explanation and all. But how about this for context. Even better, modern context here.

[Dimmu]

@legs_n_sheets
Unlike Christianity , we don't have men with authority from the skies
I can read the analytical books -about quran and sunnah-myself , and decide myself what's right And wrong
If you wanna play that YouTube game, OK
Let's see the ratio between Muslims that hates to the people who hates Islam

Another thing I noticed
People who convert to Islam are peaceful , decent and talk nicely about their previous beliefs
While people who convert from Islam are full of hate and anger and keep insulting previous beliefs

The thing is, aren't you educated enough to read the source yourself and read the circumstances of each verse and why it has been written yourself instead of listening to others , at least to have basic underground so you can know what's right or wrong
Again we are not like Christianity
We don't treat Religious people as if they are perfect, even the most important books in Islam sunnah like bukhari are being analyzed and criticized till now

[Dimmu]

Cause he a human he might be right or wrong
The basic principles are reading , questioning and doubting
And if you know a little little little about Islam you'd have known that

[legs_n_sheets]

@Dimmu what youtube game?

Are you in favor of death penalty to homosexuals? Are you in favor of stoning punishment to people who commit adultery? And the other thinks he mentioned?
I see lots of hands raising from non extremists. Why yoi deflect these questions.
The punishments and violent verses of the coran still manifest in modern age.

[Dimmu]

@legs_n_sheets
so you wanna take parts of Quran and neglect the other parts, and then say look its violent:D
lol
what you are refusing to understand that Islam provide solutions before penalties ,
and about gays
noone can ever say anal sex is sexy, anal sex is always always combined with shit, thats a must
and where the children rights when they grow up with no mom, just a dad and dad
still death penalty for gays is doubtable,
and there is no modern context and old context, islam doesn't change during time, we dont change it to fit our desires, we change the way we apply it
i tell you what manifest modern age?
Italy invading Libya , Egypt and Ethiopia, killing millions of Muslims
that you are trying now to say they are violent
so the one who is killed is violent and the murderer is civilized
can logic be more torn?

[legs_n_sheets]

@Dimmu What do you mean doubtable? This user here is showing you evidence of a big group of what we consider as "normal" mulims agreeing to these things. I played a "youtube game" as you'd say I'd find much horrific things that happen to day. Worse punishments and such from muslims. I'm being straight up and you didn't answer either of my questions. Also, I'm disgusted myself for the gay act, but I do not believe any of them should be punished, what kind of mentality is that? Srsly

[Dimmu]

@legs_n_sheets
what i said about youtube is
Let's see the ratio between Muslims that hates to the people who hates Islam

People who convert to Islam are peaceful , decent and talk nicely about their previous beliefs
While people who convert from Islam are full of hate and anger and keep insulting previous beliefs "
it doesn't seem to me you did that

to understand what i mean by doubtable, you must understand how someone finds out what islam thinks about something
-i look first for what scholar think about it
-look for what they based their opinions on from quran and sunnah
-go check these quran verses and look for why they were put there and their circumstances
-go check sunnah and look for its situation
and in the gay thing i didn't find much evidence for the death penalty

and about the penalties, not all adultery penalty is death, go do your homework i won't just tell you the answer

[Dimmu]

but what i wanna say , penalties only apply after providing the solutions and after the ruler and government is almost perfect , thats when the penalties applied

what kind of mentality is that?
i will tell you what kind of mentality is that, that mentality which has lower rape statistics and pedophilia than western countries
and that mentality had invaded Europe twice while Europe and west invaded that mentality about 11 times

[Dimmu]

i am not really sure is it about denial or pure hate
cause at the time Muslims are killed in huge numbers and exposed to ethnic cleansing
you don't care about these lives
while you care about what others think against human rights
like if you are really care about rights, there is Muslims are already being killed in different places by others
so it is not about human lives nor rights, its about how smart you can get in hating Islam

[Dimmu]

that's a former priest
he knows about Christianity more than you do
https://youtu.be/iHFgcRGIrH0

and the same for evan
https://youtu.be/IYMKQKSV0bY

these people talk nicely about Christianity , and focus on whats nice about islam
while if you looked for an ex muslims, you won't find him talking nicely about islam and repeat these false claims and say nothing much about his new religion
we have one talk about positives stuff in both religions and thee other devoted himself to make something look bad
each mindset goes to its suitable environment :D
actually most of western converts are women and priests
and the more false claims are told , the more people encourage to read about islam and eventually convert
the thing is they are honest with themselves

[legs_n_sheets]

Again, I asked you very simple questions and haven't received a very specific answers of you.
We got muslims here saying they are in favor of death penalty of homosexuals and stoning to people who are adulterers. You claim there's no evidence of this, while I can clearly see at least 30 if not more muslims raising their hands in favor of it. What do you want me to look for, an actual execution of an homosexual? And please do provide your personal opinion if you agree to these punishments and all else as appeares in the coran. You keep going in circles and what I'm asking here is pretty simple. As for christians, you keep bringing them up where I have mentioned or reference anything about Christianity, I'm debating your religion, not theirs at this moment.

[Anonymous]

Nice take and I hope those members of this religion religion who haven't yet recognize it will recognize this soon too so we can all life in peace with each other.

[Decentguy]

Awesome take my friend

[Somali]

thank you my friend, I applied that idea we talked about and made this awesome take.

[Decentguy]

hmm. i know. Awesome job

[Anonymous]

Nice job ignoring all the violent verses.

[Somali]

there is no violence verses in the quran. there is no a single verse against humanity in the quran.

[Somali]

I will address every issue one by one. stay tuned.

[QuestionMan]

Doesn't Muslim mean "God's slave"?

[Somali]

a person who submits his will to Almighty God, he is called as a Muslim.

[QuestionMan]

Different wording but same meaning.

[Somali]

according to the holy bible, Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) is a Muslim.

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]

NOTE: I SEEK NOT MY OWN WILL, BUT THE WILL OF THE FATHER.

[QuestionMan]

If Jesus is a Muslim what does that make Moses?

[Somali]

before I give answer to your next question. do you agree that Jesus (peace be upon him) is a Muslim?

[QuestionMan]

No I do not, I do not believe in any religion I'm just fascinated by the stories.
Calling Jesus a prophet makes more sense than calling him the son of God so I'll give you that.
Carry on.

[Somali]

we will continue this discussion later. I will send you a private message.

[QuestionMan]

Sure thanks for the follow :)

[KiaTate]

I like this take. 😊