The Truth About Getting Four Wives in Islam!

[cupidkisses]

First of all, I want to say that it is not right to just take a verse from the whole book and comment about it. We must consider the whole content and the time that it was written.

It is not a command

It is a limit! When this verse of Quran were brought by angels, polygamy was common around the World. Both men and women were marrying more than one person. There was no limitation about that. Men would have 8-10 wives just like women.

Islam limited it

While polygamy was a common thing in many religions, islam limited the number. After islam, some things in Arabian Peninsula are changed and some are banned. For example, burying girls alive was banned.

And there have been some changes about polygamy.

Before islam, it was normal for both men and women to have as many partner as they want. And islam didn’t create all that 4 wives stuff, it limited the number.

Now, you may think that why it didn’t let women to have the most 4 partners. It is because women give birth and if islam lets such a thing the father of the child will be unknown. Can you imagine a child who knows who is his mother but doesn’t know who is his father? It would be really strange. We are talking about the times that there wasn’t a test to learn it.

Now you may think that why islam didn’t tell to marry only one woman! Because at that time the number of the women were a lot more than the number of men. If islam would tell to marry only one then people would divorce the rest and there would be so many women alone. There would be no balance. Polygamy has been changed according to the society at that time.

So islam neither commanded it nor adviced it

It just allowed 4 wives! When you think about it you will see that the number decreased till now.

You need your wive’s permition

Hz. Fatima(daughter of prophet Mohammed) said that she will object to that if her husband wants to.

We can also see that it is allowed only if the wife permits.

But there are still some people who exploit that and marry with 4 women without the permission of their wife, and saying that’s what islam says. You got it wrong man!

[nalaa]

I think that most people know it's know it's not a command. Obviously. I also think most people know wives can object to it but I don't think necessarily think that's practiced everywhere in reality.
And to get back to the story of how Mohammed married a 6 year old girl, she was not the first wife I believe so where was her right to object? I mean it's no good really just giving one woman the right to object when two or more are involved

"Can you imagine a child who knows who is his mother but doesn’t know who is his father? It would be really strange"
-- it's not really strange, a lot of people would think it's strange to live in a house with one father and two or more mothers but you clearly don't. It's just a cultural norm

"Before islam, it was normal for both men and women to have as many partner as they want."
-- Ha! so you're telling us Islam made the world more sexist than it already was? Well that's a new one to me and that's quite an accomplishment actually because the world was very sexist already

"Because at that time the number of the women were a lot more than the number of men"
-- where do you get that from? more boys are born than women. And boys normally have higher rate of infant mortality, so by the time they reach adulthood numbers are roughly even.
So any imbalance should never last longer than a generation and the person who thought everyone in all times in all places should do it like this had obviously no foresight.
In fact I'd say the middle east is such a shithole partially because there is no big discrepancy between the numbers of men and women in which case polygamy doesn't work. Monogamy has been the norm in every bigger civilization because it works. It's the most stable arrangement you can have. Polygamy is fickle monogamy is not

"For example, burying girls alive was banned"
-- well congratulations on outlawing murder, have a cookie

By the end of the day what islam says doesn't matter what muslims do does. That's what people see as islam not what is literally written in the koran.
That's both good and bad news for you I guess. On the hand it means that your actions are important than a centuries old book and the other hand it means while there are countries that do terrible things in the name of islam people will never be able to see the upsides.
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[Anonymous]

that's right but you can't change people they wi, ll always judge

[hector88]

yes its not a command, its just a limitation but in this age, getting four wives is disgusting.

[cupidkisses]

agree

[jacquesvol]

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[MeutiaArianti]

LOL, if our country here isn't 'running' the Sharia law LOL. How much do you understand about Islam by the way, you haven't answered my question? And if it really runs in my country, I won't get 100 lashes in public for any of my opinions because it's not how it--the 'Sharia--works. You're blind, Sir, blind of the truths, because you judge something before you learn about it as much as you can. You're blind because you only read some nonsense articles pigheads made to bring a really big conflict in the middle of society, instead of widening your knowledge with the real truths about how Islam see humanity, not just by some shallow understanding about Arabia, and then Pakistan, and then Iraq. You know, everyone makes faults, if you see Christians for example, they do faults against humanity but I don't think their religions taught them to do so. So, don't directly judge a religion by its followers.

[MeutiaArianti]

Well, this is my comment for @TheFlak38

[MeutiaArianti]

P. S.: Because I just realized, I typed in the wrong box, instead of replying your comment directly, Sir.

[Nik1hil]

Nah! Who needs 4 wife,
Nah! Who needs 4 wife's,. MY father himself Keeps running away from the 1 he has.
Besides I agree with @RJGraveyTrain on this one, one at a time!..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZMIpPqnrzg

I agree with promiscuity not polygamy,
Polygamy is freaking repulsive!.
Stay with a women even if for 1 day, better be entirely hers! DON'T JUGGLE.
And if that 1 is as beautiful as @Leandri,
Or queen of cuties like @lost_alice.
It's more then enough

[lost_alice]

I totally Hate when people call me cute but thanks anyway

[Nik1hil]

@lost_alice great can I have your upcoming first dates contact! So I can leave him a becon of
" Don't call her cute "- WARNING.

[Leandri]

Hahaha thank you*

[RegularTK421]

www.theguardian.com/.../somali-islamists-schoolboy-amputation-ordeal

Quranic verse 5:33

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.

Yeah I'm all set with your fucked up religion.

[capturemyheartnow]

The founder of Islam had many wives---Both young and old. So if Muslim has 4 wives now , it's not a bad thing. If he can afford to keep 4 wives and treat them well and provide for them and their children , then it is a good thing. Women to want financial support and family support. Instead of living unmarried , women can marry someone who is able to give them family support.

[lord_chilled]

In those days there was war and number of women were greater than men, which is why men were allowed to marry multiple women in order to give them security.
Guys will think this is great, but when you see men struggling to please one woman, you will realize the reality of managing a relationship with four women at the same time, lol.
Its not a bed of roses

[N192K001]

The article is both fascinating and informative (minus the "Come and convert now!" vibe that raises defenses and kills interest).

[Skadouchebag]

Mohammad said each man could have four wives simply because war at the time was so bad that there was only one man for every four women. I'm not a Muslim, but it's really as simple as that.

[TheFlak38]

"Treat your woman with respect"
By forcing her to cover herself against her will and threaten her with beheading, stoning, abuse and whatever else the book of a pedophile war lord suggests if she doesn't confrom 100% with the husband and the culture.

[cupidkisses]

nobody forces no one

[TheFlak38]

Really? Then why are muslim girls afraid to take it off? And dont say that's not true because I obviously know what I'm talking about. Also why did the women in Syria only after the recently won battles against the jihadists burn their headscarfs as a symbol of oppression? If they weren't forced they could have burned them while under IS occupation. And again, don't say thats not true because one of my friends fought in Syria and saw it. Plus you can find video on youtube.

[MeutiaArianti]

You suggest us to find in ON YOUTUBE? LOL bruh, why did you do that whereas everybody always said to me, "Do not take it all from the internet'.

I am a Muslim girl myself, I live in Indonesia, and I am not afraid to take it off. I am not afraid, but why should I take it off when it's really beneficial? Because it's truly preventing sexual harassment--well you may be would say "Not always" or "Not in Arab land" or "That's bullshit". Oh, I do not know about other regions but surely, as a woman who knows and feels it every day, and as someone who lives in Indonesia, here, it prevents sexual harassment, really. Don't you guys always say that you're 'a visual creature'. Well, don't you have something 'ticklish' you want to laugh about when girls wearing bikinis everywhere and suspect you sexually harassing them though it's they who 'started it first'. It's like, why should you go to a lion cage when you know you'll probably be eaten? LOL :3

[TheFlak38]

@MeutiaArianti "Because it's truly preventing sexual harassment" This is the nature of the average 21st century barbarian aka muslims.

[MeutiaArianti]

LOL you funny. Well, it's no problem since you never know how to live in my country (as I don't know about yours as well). But, here, do you think 'barbarians' are the Muslims only? No. I have plenty of non-Muslim friends here and they behave like that too, they still harass women, and that means that kind of behavior is owned by 'public'--by everyone--not just a religion's.

Well, where do you come from by the way, US? NL? Don't forget that you there enjoy the strippers, touching women' boobs when you're dancing, having sex with whores what kind of behavior is that too huh? Well, you may be would say 'But they're bitches so it's okay if I touch them freely'--Oh ho ho, what's the difference between you and what you called 'barbarians' then? If you really respect women, even they're whores and you're allowed to treat them like ones you must not do it. If you truly respect them, what you should do is giving them money, not to have sex with them, but to free them. Have Westerners done that? No!

[MeutiaArianti]

As the matter of fact, you--one of the people who support absolute freedom--don't really understand about how the 'freedom' word itself works. Just like now, you're being judgmental though you don't know how Islam actually works because of some small-minded articles you maybe got a few days ago. I am 100% sure that you don't understand anything about the religion you judge. It's like you're a magistrate but you don't know anything about the case you manage so you give an unsuitable sentence, in that case, it's being unfair too am I wrong?

From where did you find that Muslim wives should perfectly obey their husbands even if those husbands are evil, cruel, and definitely haphazard? And by the way, men sinner must be sentenced too, not just women. You're just seeing the women's side it's why you always take it wrong.

[TheFlak38]

@MeutiaArianti I know very well how people live in your country because our countries HERE in the WEST have plenty of you Saracens. At least our women here are not forced to be covered in sheets when they walk through the city streets and they do that without any fear of being molested until some of you biological ruins shows up and decides that this woman wants to be raped. Enjoy your 100 lashes in Indonesia if you do not follow Sharia by the book.

[MeutiaArianti]

LOL. You don't know Indonesia then (means you don't know about Bali as well-or even Jakarta). Do you think it's Saudi Arabia? Don't be 'quasi-cal' with the things you don't know, Sir, it's like you go to a botanical and say that Oryza sativa is a crocodile :v

[TheFlak38]

@MeutiaArianti if you only knew how many indonesians I've met and told me of the barbarism in your country.

[MeutiaArianti]

LOL. You choose to believe 'them'--literally them who maybe flew away from this country (because my country is 'indirectly blackmailed' by yours, The US, so it's pretty natural if they flew away because they found themselves haven't got any progress here) or the ones who simply intended to have 'better lives' there and they know nothing anymore about their own country?

Well, don't mean to be rude and 'aggressive' and underestimate my own 'friends by nation', but I'm here in my own country, know things about this country much better than them because I literally here in Indonesia.

And if it's true--that your friends say my country's 'barbaric', well, don't forget that my country ISN'T 'a religion country' and we're based on so many religions, also we support for nationalism and unity even in the early ages of Independence. Ask your friends about one of the points in Jakarta Charter which was modified by PPKI to strengthen the nationalism in 1945--if they remember.

[MeutiaArianti]

And, if it's really 'barbaric'--It has nothing to do with the Islam religion because again, we're not 'a religion country'. If what your friends meant by 'barbaric' then it's because of the government who always being unfair to its nation and never support for knowledge, corrupt, and etc--and those kind of behaviors also owned by 'every country'.

But do you know what, the reason behind my corrupt government--I have told you one about your superior country The US blackmails us every time--and the second is that also your country, to gain my government's support (because knows that my government is corrupt) gives money to shut up their mouths. Who's the wrong one now?

Definitely the 'so-called-people-who-support-the-freedom'. Though they're actually unfair.

[TheFlak38]

Yeah that's what we hear all the time. "Nothing to do with Islam". I definitely believe you lass.
I will report you to the Sharia police. Have fun with your 100 lashes in public.

[MeutiaArianti]

LOL, if our country here isn't 'running' the Sharia law LOL. How much do you understand about Islam by the way, you haven't answered my question? And if it really runs in my country, I won't get 100 lashes in public for any of my opinions because it's not how it--the 'Sharia--works. You're blind, Sir, blind of the truths, because you judge something before you learn about it as much as you can. You're blind because you only read some nonsense articles pigheads made to bring a really big conflict in the middle of society, instead of widening your knowledge with the real truths about how Islam see humanity, not just by some shallow understanding about Arabia, and then Pakistan, and then Iraq. You know, everyone makes faults, if you see Christians for example, they do faults against humanity but I don't think their religions taught them to do so. So, don't directly judge a religion by its followers.

[TheFlak38]

@MeutiaArianti Muslim logic:

Offended by:
Cartoons
Criticism

Not offended by:
Rape
Pedophilia
Beheading
Forced conversion
Slavery
Oppression of women
Stoning women to death
Genital mutilation
Death penalty for apostasy
Death penalty for adultery
Death penalty for gay people

[MeutiaArianti]

It's like you directly judge black people though they have 'better visual' in humanity than us, just like Nelson Mandela for example. Judging before learning is a judgmental act, and I believe you do know about it right? And it's also in Islam, how can you judge Islam without any further knowledge about it.

And again, can I ask you something? What does 'Sharia' means exactly? Tell us here because you always talk about it and I know that you don't know about it at all. And again, do you know where's Indonesia actually? We here do not run the Sharia law (except NAD region and it's just a small part of the whole Indonesia). And we don't lash men moreover women in front of the public if their opinions are true, it's stupid. If you find a country who runs the Sharia law and do it, so it's not the Sharia law they run, it's a nonsensical law comes from nowhere.

www.google.co.id/url

And this is Indonesia if you don't know. Just to make sure that you haven't mistaken it with any other country.

[MeutiaArianti]

www.google.co.id/url

This is the link

[TheFlak38]

@MeutiaArianti I see a lot of talking and dogging my own comments. The words of a dumb muslim 16 year old that doesn't even know how to reply to a comment and instead posts an opinion. You'll convince a lot of people with your stupidity. We've been saved.

[MeutiaArianti]

And now, I want to tell you that I don't mean to lecture and insult you (well maybe not really), but I want to straighten up a thing from you. And I don't mean to be 'quasi-cal' because obviously, you're ten years older or perhaps eleven years older than me and wiser (I hope). But younger doesn't mean naive and don't know anything. I simply want to straighten up this thing because I've found your opinion need to be straightened because it's totally WRONG and plus, you judged that religion.

It's nice to 'discuss' this thing with you and I don't think we need to further these agreements because it's useless if we go for a non-stop 'discussion' which is actually a debate. So good bye and good luck for your 'beautiful life'.^^

[MeutiaArianti]

P. S.: LOL, it's because I typed it in the wrong box, and like I said---everybody makes mistakes. And yes, you think younger people are dumb? Well, do you think yourself as a superior as well? Oh ho, I know that (maybe) you're smart and genius, but genius people don't be judgmental and emotional :v

And why if I posted my own comments, do you think it's just you who reserve the right to 'convince' people--not with my stupidity--because Thank's God, now people gonna look your comment and see what you've written and how it's unfair for you to judge other people though you don't really know them. :3

Bye bye, Sir.

[MeutiaArianti]

Oh and P. P. S: Who's the stupid one actually, the one who judges everything shallowly or the one who fights the truths? (Maybe both if this discussion end up being a sophist).

[TheFlak38]

Taqiyya in action. I love it <3

"Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return."

[MeutiaArianti]

P. P. P. S.: Lol what kind of Taqiyya actually? Or is that you who feels cornered by a 'dumber' little girl ten years younger than you, naive, but actually saying the truths because obviously, you don't know how to argue those truths anymore because your lack of knowledge in the thing you judge and argue about? Besides, from your most top comment--which is your first opinion--people, believe or disbelieve with Islam will naturally think that it's really superficial and judgmental, and see who says the truths or the one who says 'common lies' about Islam. He he he :)

Assalamualaykum, Sir, good luck!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me, because actually, I learn more from you about how to always try to respect 'old man' in the name of society and humanity. ;)

[TheFlak38]

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

[Decentguy]

and also, The motive for him having more than one wife was not mere desire.
and if im not wrong, then the prophet's four wives were disabled. one was blind, and others were disabled too like that.

[zagor]

Where do you get that there were more women than men back then? More boys are born than girls. If there was a state of war then that might be the case, but not in a normal situation.

[skeptic002]

sorry hun the Quran is not GOD's word the Bible is
and if you would like to understand why i say this let me know I will show you the truth

[John_Doesnt]

The religion of peace, yeah right.

[dogfish]

id get multiple wives <3

[Anonymous]

It's still an utterly ridiculous belief system.

[jacquesvol]

Go preach it in Utah.

[Anonymous]

I had no idea muslims were so pussywhipped.