How much should a stay-at-home mom get if she divorces husband?

[OddBeMe]

50%…duh

Nothing!

Other

[PeachyPie93]

50% a stay at home mother will not divorce unless there is some serious issues in the marriage. Why would she? She been out of work for years, Has a bunch of kids, Guys don't like single mothers, she wasted her good years taking care of you and your kids so you can be successful and thrive.
So if she was that kind of wife I think she deserves half.
If she cheated or is just a lazy mean woman then she doesn't really deserve anything.

[OddBeMe]

Which is the cause of a lot of abused women staying with their abuser.

[monorprise]

@PeachyPie93
Given most women file for divorce simply because they are "Not happy" which is not a good reason. I don't see how its reasonable to assume no stay at home mom doesn't do the same.

If she is going to act soo irresponsibility harming not only her own life but that of her children and husbands she deserves nothing not even the kids.

In a more civilized age when there was such a thing as Marriage that meant something, such as was the case until the 20th century this no-fault divorce would not be allowed.

[PeachyPie93]

@monorprise You say women leave "simply because they are not happy". Most women try there damnedest with their partner just for the cockroach to ignore everything she says. I was in an 11 year long relationship I tried with him, I compromised for him, I did shit to make him happy, I cooked and cleaned after him like a child, just for him to stop being romantic, stop taking me out, not fucking me for a month at a time and only once in the whole month when I have a very high sex drive! I would try to talk things out, tell him what is bothering me and making me unhappy but you know what? He didn't care. So yes women are gonna leave when the man makes no effort whatsoever. Stop acting like men do no wrong, men are always in sitcoms ignoring their wives, do you know why? Because you assholes actually do that, then wonder why your wife is always angry and can't stand you. No one is just gonna throw away years of struggling to make a relationship work and stability of a family just "On a whim" so get over your delusions. Sure maybe some stupid cunts do but I don't think it's the majority.

[monorprise]

@PeachyPie93
Sounds like you had a decent Marriage, one many people would envy. If he was providing for you and you were providing for him in trade. That is the security arrangement. If you were a stay at home mom cleaning and cooking for him was your job just like paying the bills was his job.

Unless he was consistently failing to do his job you don't get to complain about needing to do your job.

If he had without reason refused to engage in sex or have children to fulfill the propose of that arrangement you might have a point for abandoning this otherwise equable and sustainable relationship.
I could be wrong but as you implied that was not the case, you just complain about his lack of inclination to keep you entertained with dates and "romance".

Theses are not obligations of a husband, they are nice to haves just like you looking pretty.

[PeachyPie93]

@monorprise we weren't married, but again if he isn't being who he was in the start and it has become like roomates and not lovers what is the inclination to stay? I now have a job and feel much better on my own. Even though I had a partner I always felt alone so if I am gonna feel alone with someone why not lose all the burden and responsibility of a relationship and actually be alone, seems like a much smarter choice.

[monorprise]

@PeachyPie93
So basically you are admitting you were just roommates formally speaking which really undermines your position on Alimony.

If however you had kids with him and behaved as such for 10 years you were indeed practically his wife.
It seems however what you really wanted was social relationships which you could have gotten at anytime outside of the home as you eventually did without him. But you didn't need to abandon that relationship to get the same.

[PeachyPie93]

@monorprise I never would of took anything from him even if we were married because I respect him and felt I never put any money in so I don't need his shit I will get my own.

I couldn't get social relationships where I was because I was not in my own comfort zone, since it was a new city and he never went anywhere besides his families houses. So didn't feel like making new friends and I felt living in his city was shitty and a sacrifice on my part. But also he was a burden so I did need to abandon him because he was wasting my life.

[monorprise]

@PeachyPie93
This position puts you even more into the no alimony camp. Even as it at the same time makes you sound even more like a good wife if only you had overcome your personal issues.

[katiesmuff]

At least 50%

[OddBeMe]

You commie

[katiesmuff]

It is our god given right because we have the PUSSY!

[OddBeMe]

Shit! She’s got us. Classic legal argument of labia majora.

[katiesmuff]

AND DON'T EVER FORGET IT!!! lol :)

[slatyb]

That's complex. In most states income after marriage is joint property. Then there's the income and career she gave up to raise the children. That often justified awarding her more than half the joint property, or alimony. Child support is a separate question.

[OddBeMe]

True.

[molonski2]

She has to get half , she is contributing.

[V_Injector]

I voted 50%... duh... but MHO is picked so I'll spare you my long-winded explanation a picture... I consider you a friend so you still get a picture.

[Vesuvius87]

It's a case by case. Why is she divorcing him?

If it's just for the sake of divorcing him or trival reasons (''I got bored with him, he snores a lot, I want to be single again, I have to feel sparks 24/7 and don't feel them, etc), then not a single dime.

If he had a long-term affair and/or got another woman pregnant, well then however the court works out in the state. You have no business cheating and breaking your vows. He wasted her time.

If she's a legitimate victim of abuse and there is evidence he beats her, instead of a divorce court he needs to be jailed immediately and taken away his rights of ever having the child. Let the domestic violence courts and law handle their area.

Obviously if she wants a divorce, it's proven that she cheated and the kid (s) is/aren't his, not a single dime. I actually hope she gets fined for paternity fraud. It should be treated like a scam.

[OddBeMe]

Totes. Just clickbaiting the sexists.

[lightbulb27]

to me it's a 50/50 arrangement. That might change depending upon what each came in with and time. But in general... the priority is care for the child and you both have a job. One makes money other stays home and manages household.

real answer is stay together and work through difficulties.

[OddBeMe]

Agreed, but not sure preaching “stay together” is correct. It can have more damage to keep quarreling parents in the same home than a divorce. Neither is good…

[monorprise]

The party that files for divorce need to prove the other party is the cause of irreconcilable differences before they get anything including children at all.

Working as a Stay at home mom just means she is entitled to a share of the common resources already earned, but only if she had no choice in the divorce.

Given most women file for divorce simply because "their not happy" which is not a good reason no matter why as your responsible for your own happiness. Said women are being illresponsable and endangering not only their own future but their children as well as undermining their husband who was relying upon such at home support.

Such an illresponsable person until the last century would not be allowed to so act. But today it is the rule not the exception in what we fraudulently deem "marriages".

[OddBeMe]

Why happiness not a good reason?

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe
Because it has nothing to do with the security arrangement that is your marriage. You alone can make yourself happy or unhappy. People who think others are responsible will never be happy except by accident.

[OddBeMe]

None of that is actually true. “Security arrangement” should involve happiness and as a depressive…. you can’t make yourself happy.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe As a depressive and a liberal you don't believe you or others can make yourself happy but you can.
That doesn't mean its true. Ultimately your world is what you choose to see it as. You alone can control that view of the world. Just because you set standards you require others to change for you to meet does not mean you require others to make you happy. You can change said standard to something you can control instead.

[OddBeMe]

I guess that’s the religious side of you. The more you’re educated the more depressed you are.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe
Education unfortunately does not mean you know the truth just what someone else think you should believe is true.

It is intelligence and experience (or what we call wisdom) that allows you to deduce the truth from nature and the world as it is.

A more "educated" person and often enough a simply more "intelligent" person tends to have more to worry about and lack the experience to know the real odds of what is important and what they can or will do.
Thus without education on the specific power of their own mind or worse elders telling them they are helpless as is the case with many modern messages by said institutions and politicians (which is really anti-education even thou it is empowering to the people claiming to be the only option).

An person would likewise lack the experience to know that is not true. and thus be depressed by all the threats they see.

[OddBeMe]

Well you’re confusing intelligence and logic (or common sense). I will just say the more you know the more you beleive there’s no god and humanity is chasm of psychopaths waiting to emerge.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe If intelligence is to have any general application it would be in logic, Not knowledge or creativity as both can go in any direction and indeed would go in vastly diffrent directions based upon need.

Just because the direction you follow with your 'knowledge' as guided by our cultural leaders leads you away from God. Does not mean that conclution is correct simply because your missing half the story.

If you had instead studied for example the nature of knowledge you might be more agreeable to the concept of God as well as less arrogant in your conclusions.

[OddBeMe]

We’re philosophizing and straying from any fact based logic, for sure.

But I will say the more you believe without evidence the more happier you are. And it’s something I will never do.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe That has not been my observation or experience. Atheist are no where near as regularly fulfilled and happy as believers. There are many logical reasons for this not merely does our human biology seem to have been build for spirituality.
The knowledge of a supreme being and something more than the life we have here. Brings a since of hope and order to life that atheism never could match.

If you believe this is all there is your far more likely to be disappointed in your relative lot compared to what you think others have. When you know this is just a step there is a peace.

[OddBeMe]

No moron…. the more you BELIEVE in magic sky men to protect you…the HAPPIER and LESS INTELLIGENT you are.

Thanks for proving my point.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe Calling me names is not helpful. I am sorry I miss-read you're statement in offering an alternative explication for the same phenomenon.

[OddBeMe]

What a snowflake,

Sorry I’m in the downward side of depression. Just know it’s not all you. Just a little.

[monorprise]

@OddBeMe I'm sorry to hear that. Although I know you do not currently believe it. I would urge you to open your mind to the possibility of that which none of us can and all of us don't know.

In doing so you may find there is certainly something missing from your life that the community of faith would provide for you.

We humans are social animals and as much as we believe our intellect has the answer to all questions. There is a natural arrogance in all of us to overlook what we don't know. This arrogance is necessary to get anything done but it does lead us to rule out better options along the way.

Your life is valuable and so is your mind is sound, don't confine it with the assumption there are no better options. Use your logic to go back and explore the worlds you haven't yet seen.

[OddBeMe]

Minds always open to new ideas. But those ideas need evidence. And you beleive an entire book of bullshit because your parents did, and their parents, all the way back to…. noah?

[Daniela1982]

OMG! What a bunch of misogynists. And maybe while she is home taking care of business and his kids, her husband is playing footsie with his secretary. Maybe he deserves to lose everything, the dirty rotten scoundrel! 🤣😂

[OddBeMe]

Hey…the wife is with the kids this weekend. You busy?

[Daniela1982]

😯😡

[Chazmatazz269]

Same as anyone gets from their employer when they quit their job. Absolutely nothing. Don’t want to be married anymore? Fine. You don’t continue to receive the benefits of marriage after it ends.
Divorced men don’t continue to benefit from a dissolved marriage. Why should women? It’s complete nonsense and it has been for generations.

[electromagnetic]

50. She still a house maker and that’s a job in itself. Cooking, cleaning, taking care of children, grocery shopping, laundry, organizing and sorting. It’s not like she’s sitting all day.

[exitseven]

All the divorced guys I know went before a judge and the ex wife's lawyer submits a report detailing her monthly expenses and that is what the guy has to pay. He gets to live on whatever is left.

[Redstang88]

I don’t think the one initiating the divorce should get a damn thing unless they can prove a valid reason to do so

[OddBeMe]

(Shrug) what’s considered “valid”?

[Redstang88]

Well it definitely doesn’t include got bored, change my mind or found a better offer

[OddBeMe]

Bored would mean the husband ignored her.

[Redstang88]

Lmao good one

[OddBeMe]

Gotta keep your woman satisfied red. Or she’ll get it somewhere else. Get some pills from the gas station.

[Redstang88]

Don’t get out much do ya? Dont matter what you do, sometimes she wakes up and decides you’re out

[OddBeMe]

My bitches are well cared for, homey. None have decided “I’m out”. Maybe it’s just me…and your issue is more common. I’ll except that praise.

[Redstang88]

You would be the odd one out then, though praise is not what I was getting at. I suppose if your bitches aren’t put off by your insufferable arrogance nothing will change their minds

[OddBeMe]

The one bitch I have isn’t. Yet.

Shit she’s coming

[DarkLegacy]

It is typical of women to think they should be entitled to the guys money, but unless he is at fault she should get nothing.

[OddBeMe]

For raising his kids and providing in the household?

[Daniela1982]

@OddBeMe I know, right?

[OddBeMe]

@Daniela1982 I figured this would get messy….

[slatyb]

It's not "the guys money." Money he had before the marriage? That's his. Money he earned while she sl raised his children and maintained a home? That's at least half hers.

[LiamJHayden]

1. How long were they married?
2. Are the children his?
3. How much does he make?

[Daniela1982]

THIS! ^

[XXblack88]

Well, if she's doing most/ all the caring/ rising of the child/children 50% sounds fair.

[jjj101010]

How ever much it costs to feed and cloth the kids and keep a roof over their heads

[Sameone]

She will take the house

[Anonymous]

depends on the prenuptial agreement.

[OddBeMe]

Not really, unless there’s significant reason, a housewife will still get a decent payout from courts. Even if she signed. Judges can toss that shit.

[Opinion Owner]

nope.

[OtterMan68]

half of what they earned while together.

[strateguy632]

2nd.

[laly520]

courts decide