Why do you think divorces have increased?

[Melanie31]

A woman should always do what her husband wants in marriage. According to my belief, it is a sin for women to divorce. what do you think?

[blueonblack22]

I don’t literally believe a woman should always do what her husband wants (there are and Saldivar always will be abusive dbags out there).

However women statistically file for divorce more than twice as often as men. I do not believe for a second that “well that’s because there are a lot more bad husbands out there”. No.

In reality it means there are a lot more selfish and/or self-sabotaging women out there particularly in western cultures were feminism has screwed up everything legally and socially.

[Razp_Sorbet]

That statistic does not tell you anything about the relationship dynamic.

We know men cheat more than women. So that is one reason why women file for divorce more than men.
We know men are more likely to be the abuser. Another reason.
We also know women are more likely to do literally every household chore and are more onto it with getting things done... While men "get around to it eventually" . Another reason. Women probably get fed up with waiting for their useless ex to do it so she does it.

[msc545]

No, you don't know that men cheat more. You just assume it. The fact of the matter is that women cheat more but get caught less.

[blueonblack22]

@Razp_Sorbet so we “know” men cheat more. We “know” men abuse more.

No women are just better at covering up their cheating. Especially if they are financially dependent on their husbands. They are better at self justifying it took. Men are also far less likely to report physical abuse coming from their wives.

I saw this bullshit go on in my own family growing up. If my dad did to my mom some of things she got away with doing to him she would have him in jail.

So very kindly STFU about “men abuse more” unproven assumptions like it’s a black and white proven fact. The statistics aren’t accurate because a lot of men don’t want to look weak to society reporting female abuse. Women are aren’t helpless nor harmless. Especially in western societies.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Sure maybe that is the case but it's better to look at statistics we do have and make judgements than make judgements based on no evidence at all

[LiamS95]

Due to lack of morals and respect for Christian principles.

[cince200X]

Look Mrs. Melanie...

The biggest thing in you that you rose this issue... and want to know the root causes.

Note:If need you can ask me the full explanation for any point.

You have heard people saying that adjustment is more important factor in a Relationship but If i think well, It is all about Intrest and very less about the adjustment.

Because After a limit you will not be going to adjust but after a long he/she needs the break often called break up or Divorce.

Second thing you can observe that, A minor irritation builds up to become a madness. Means Suppose you are triggering one's about the things he/she doesn't like at all. Ex: Coming home late everyday.

But main factor is how we lose the intrest?For this We can think about what are things that combine two persons?

1. Same Topics, common Intresting jobs, Means matches.

2. Respect to each other

3. Some Secrets sharing.

4. Not controlling life of other one

5. Helping When not expected.

Then HOW TO Avoid This problem

• By Keeping all above things in mind and

6. Not doing a repetitive tasks.

7. Loyalty by sacrificing something.

8. Not make yourself like a pet but adjust your self to match same task, goal.

9. Taking some input form him/her about any situations.

10. Investment of emotions.

11. By triggering emotions.

12. Not saying "No" in any argument but just try to become diplomatic.

13. Giving him/her some space

14. Never ever indulge 3rd person in your relationship... Very Very dangerous.

15. Never ever compare the reel life to real life.

16. Expectations are the main Key to Sadness...

And Many More...

Thanks Mrs. Melanie.

If you found any point superb, Please Let me know...

[MisterWack]

Simply put, I think women rush into marriage thinking they met their forever man then things take turns for the worst. You should know your boyfriend for years before marriage to know if it is compatible & functional.

What I do believe to be the cause of divorce in the modern day is, PANDEMIC. We were all forced to stay home since we are all empathetic driven people and didn’t want to spread a deadly virus onto those most vulnerable. In doing so, domestic violence/abuse increased from stress or perhaps the husband or wife would blow off steam from the stresses of life however couldn’t then took frustrations out on family members instead.

Look, I would love to live in a world where every marriage is perfect however sometimes you just got to divorce for the greater good especially in cases of abuse & assault also feel like your life is in danger.

[JacobJordan]

Divorce has increased by of feminism and the fact the government incentivized the hell out of it.

Step 1: get married

Step 2: have kids with the husband

Step 3: get your husband to do something that is reason for Divorce

Step 4: get a lawyer to take him to the cleaners for child support and alimony + half of all financial assets

Step 5: do what you want now because you have a steady income.

So long as Divorce is incentivized prenuptial agreements. Don't make some stupid long document 1 page is all is needed.

Duties of the wife

Duties of the husband

Exceptions

Divorce Clauses

Signatures/dates/notary

[msc545]

Don't fall into the trap of prenuptial agreements. They are mostly worthless. A court can invalidate them and often does in favor of the woman much of the time. The court doesn't need a reason. If the judge feels sympathetic toward the woman That's all that is required.

[JacobJordan]

@msc545 very true that is why you do it with a lawyer and way ahead of the wedding

[Viollana]

The reason why I think divorces have increased is because some families don't love and cherish their children. For example, some ladies are literally afraid of having children or might end up pregnant by force or accident and might not want the kid. Many fathers now and days that I've seen want to be married but don't want kids too! That could start a big argument with each other. I know there is a way for that to be fixed which is adoption but still! Or another reason is drug misuse, which can also lead to many divorces. One might not take drugs all the time but takes prescriptions at night or something, while another may drugs everyday, it's hard to stop taking drugs! Doesn't mean you and your husband have to divorce! If you both do drugs, keep a healthy diet and don't forget to encourage each other to stop smoking or whatever it is your even doing!

Congratulations, you've made it to the end of my very long tagent. Let me know if I should fix anything! =)

[WindAtMyBack]

The divorce rate has not increased in the US, it's decreased.

The divorce rate peaked in the early 80s. It's been decreasing ever since. In other words, it's been decreasing for the last 40 years. It's almost half what it was 40 years ago.

[msc545]

You have statistics to support this or is that just your opinion?

[WindAtMyBack]

@msc545
If I said something that specific, it means I have statistics. Try the US Census.

[msc545]

Try linking the data you say you have.

[WindAtMyBack]

@msc545
Do your own work. Jesus fucking Christ!
It's the Internet. Don't be so damn lazy. A child could to it in two minutes.

[msc545]

You asserted it, you support it. Or not. I don't care. This is part of YOUR work, not mine.

[WindAtMyBack]

@msc545
Are you really that lazy?

www.census.gov/.../...-declined-last-10-years.html

Do you want me to read it for you also? Wait, I already did that. But you won't take my word for it. If you want to go back to 1980 like I mentioned in my original post, you can do it yourself.

The marriage rate has also declined. As the marriage rate declines, you would expect the divorce rate to also decline. BUT, the divorce rate has declined faster than the marriage rate. I'll even do the math for you (from the first three paragraphs in the above link).

(17.6 - 16.3) / 17.6 = 7.4% decrease in marriage

(9.7 - 7.6) / 9.7 = 21.6% decrease in divorce rate

It seems like everyone is answering this question AS IF the divorce rate really is increasing. It's "common knowledge" after all. But "common knowledge" doesn't make it true. Doesn't anyone verify anything?

There are all kind of things that are "common knowledge" that aren't true. The crime rate is increasing. The murder rate is increasing. The rich don't pay taxes, or they pay at a much lower rate than normal people. None of those are true. All of them can be easily verified. But everyone is too lazy to do it.

[msc545]

I get an "Access denied" response from that link.

[msc545]

I don't think you understand debate protocol very well or if you do, you choose to ignore it as evidenced by your continually rude comments here.

If YOU assert something, YOU have an obligation to support it or STFU.

[WindAtMyBack]

@msc545

The asker made an assertion. You agreed with it. If I challenge an assertion, which I did, then the burden is on the asker and/or you. That is debate protocol.

So now it's not about divorce rate any more. It's about protocol. Good job changing the subject.

I'm rude? Well yes, I am. More like impatient with people who won't do a damn thing to research anything, even though they have the Internet at their fingertips. Then they challenge me when I DO do the research, and usually spend considerable amount of time doing it.

Sometimes I just ask the person for sources. But in many cases, like this one, I know they don't have sources, because it's not true. So I challenged it. No frills.

If you think what I said isn't true, then look it up. That is what I do all the time. Why wouldn't you when it's so easy?

I think every person who answered this question answered as it it were true. Seriously? Not a single one of them looked it up? Now or in the past? That amazes me.

[msc545]

I don't give a shit if it's true or not. The problem I have here is your rude mouth which you need to get under control.

[WindAtMyBack]

@msc545

I have no intention of being polite to political enemies. They are the enemy. No quarter given.

Again, nice work changing the subject. You kept insisting I was wrong, over and over. And now you don't care if I was right or wrong?

Well, now you know that the divorce rate is not really increasing. Maybe others will know also. That was the entire intention. If people would look stuff up, it would save a whole lot of trouble.

[Gert_Mittengard]

It is a sin. You can't divorce what God Enjoins. Scripture says so.

So yeah, Godlessness and lack of virtue and prayer and connections is why divorce is on the rise. Some would say online dating contributes, but they mostly applies to casual dating which is a bane of society for its ungodly lustful indulgence. Catholic Match and Ave Maria Singles are great places to meet catholic men and women. Jesus Started the catholic church after all.

[EmmaMary]

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[msc545]

The divorces have increased because of hypergamy in which women find a better shinier newer man that they would rather be with since he's also usually taller and richer. Divorces have also increased because women have figured out that they can make money by being divorced via alimony and child support. Women get a great deal in divorce court and men get screwed.

[slatyb]

Two reasons:
1) Women are able to support themselves
2) There's no need to prove that one party is at fault. It takes two people to continue a marriage, only one to end it.

You can believe what you like. Do you really think women should remain in abusive marriages?

[msc545]

Do you think men should remain in abusive marriages where women cheat on them and take their money?

[slatyb]

@msc545 When did I say that?

[msc545]

Answer the question.

[slatyb]

@msc545 No, why would they? Either party can initiate a divorce.

[msc545]

I think you just answered your own question as well.

[msc545]

However, a lot of men don't want divorces because they literally cannot afford them. Women typically do not have that problem - they can just go easily find another man to live off.

[Rafrenc]

Yeah we’re all fucked up in the head trying to live this world our way and we come to dead ends and govt is approving supporting divorces with child support thinking that’s a good solution problem solved

[Rafrenc]

It is a sin and some do better and some come out of really bad situations they make a lifesaver decision. But some go from bad to worst and worst affecting the whole family

[normalice]

They are usually marriages that shouldn't have happened in the first place but now the option to end it is more viable,

[Astarlessnightsky]

If wither partner is unhappy or even worse getting abuses, its better to so something and divorce is definetely an option.

[Sevenpointfive]

if a man is stupid enough to marry he accepts divorce as inevitability. why? because young women have nowhere to go.

[At3mis24]

Because nowadays relationships have become disposable; no one makes the effort to really get to know each other before embarking on a more or less serious story and once in a couple, most cheat on each other. Sad, but it's better to be single.

[DishLady]

Bc people get married for the wrong reasons, don’t understand the purpose of marriage, maintain selfish lifestyles rather than compromising and loving one another with the depth required for a marriage to work, grow toxic and abusive… (etc etc etc).

[Dantec2024]

My mom divorced my dad when I was maybe 6. He was controlling and abusive as well as a drunk. Cheated on her all the time. So in that case or any other case I don't think divorce is a sin. People drift apart or people show their truly colors

[LazerBean]

Because that's just what happens when promiscuous people marry

[bobby_bush_eater]

It's incentivized, people marry for status and money, not wanting families, and lastly premarital sex. These people aren't even compatible most of the time they just have sex

[Wwoqo]

Liberalism. Women wanna be treated like men. It doesn’t work. All men want is a nice wife who respects them and cooks for them. It’s every man’s dream. You have to beg women to be a woman nowadays

[Static_In_The_Attic]

I think because of marriages.

[jamesgoldman]

Hey they my purchases of wedding bands doesn't support that they've been pretty consistent for a long time

[Razp_Sorbet]

I think your beliefs are archaic and not the standards of society today.

[Loner111]

I think it's because women don't financially depend on men as they used to years ago and the moment they don't get their way, it's over, divorce

[AngryCarl]

Women have started to think for themselves. It's something we should have nipped in the bud a long time ago. It's too late now of course.

[es20490446e]

Back in the days it was a necessity to appreciate dealing with other people.

[edmwarrior]

Social media has been a keyword in an alarming amount of divorce papers

[msc545]

So has the word "the". I Don't think either mean anything.

[edmwarrior]

@msc545 the is a filler word, social media is one of the main reasons stated. You could look it up if you don’t believe it

[msc545]

Is this just your opinion or do you have evidence? Like maybe a link that explains HOW social media allegedly causes divorce?

[edmwarrior]

@msc545 Sounds like a waste of time for me. I don’t want to invest time in making you believe it. It doesn’t bother me if you don’t

[msc545]

If you are going to assert things that seem unlikely in the future then at least provide some evidence.

[edmwarrior]

@msc545 keep yourself safe

[msc545]

Is that a threat?

[_SilentWolf_]

Changing social norms and individuals having more freedom.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Main reason why women don't have to depend on a man financially to live unlike before they had to stay by force even though if the husband was trash.

[handsomelad70]

Which is one good reason for divorce, though marriage is beneficial for children. (Literally by force, as many men beat their wives [and bragged or joked about it]).

[sawno]

No fault divorce and it paying off to leave.

[DextroShade]

Feminism, social media, and no-fault divorce.

[woahhh152]

Mostly cause people want sex these days and not be fully committed

[thisAppIsGarbage]

Because American woman have inflated senses of self worth

[LiamJHayden]

Divorce has increased because of No-Fault. Instead of working on issues, the lesser-earning partner can blow it up at any time and still get a portion of the ex's income.

[whistlingwh0res]

I blame trump. He was divorced 3times and yet become the leader

[Siri137]

A "sin" for women to divorce? Only in your opinion mister!

[Cheerfull009]

When husband and wife stay in happy life, so should go on divorce

[cluelessromantic]

Majority of people don’t take commitment seriously anymore.

[JHAYES317]

@cluelessromantic so you’re implying that married people cheat?

[Anonymous]

I think you need to quit trolling and spamming.

[negrl4a69]

Cause people don't know what love is they think its superficial

[kareka]

When girls started to take Men's tasks its increased

[SotiCoto]

I hope your husband tells you to kill yourself then.

[tryingitagain]

Because it's easier to cheat online now! lol

[hunterhan]

i agree with you

[JHAYES317]

@tryingitagain have you cheated online lol? Seems like you have some inside info

[RedInnocent69]

Has it though? I think less people are getting married. And it seems like less are fucking.

[In_Trance]

It would make sense if they decrease because less people are getting married

[dustybiker2]

Sounds like a male in a pink account.

[JonCobretti]

You're such a good girl

[DreamLife7]

Because of catfishes like you

[OtterMan68]

they have not increased. Check your facts

[MrDaveAPSI]

OK, christian nut job

[MrDaveAPSI]

And if you're not christian... then you're def. some sort of religious nut job

[HurremSultan]

People are more liberal

[JHAYES317]

@hurremsultan what does being liberal have to do with divorce?

[HurremSultan]

@JHAYES317 less value for marriage

[QuietRunner]

because of marriages

[Budheavy]

Money and sex.

[SugarSugarplum]

Lawyers.

[dudeinohio]

I agree with you

[TonyMetal___86]

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