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- 1. Divorce settlements should stop favoring women blindly.
2. All roles should be shared in relationships fairly. If I don't cook, I do the dishes, if she doesn't work, she does a greater share of the house work. But both parents should be there for all the kids.
3. Using sympathy tactics should be frowned upon in society. Women use it way more, because clearly even if a guy did it, he would become a laughing stock. Important point is when a girl does it, don't sympathize without knowing the whole truth.
4. Don't marry someone until you've understood how a confrontation with them on an intimate matter feels like - fun times can be enjoyed with even strangers you share interests with or with someone you are attracted to, but the nature of conflict and how conflict is resolved in the relationship is a major factor determining how long it will stay.
5. Note your energies together - do you bring out the best in your partner and vice versa? If yes, that's good. If no, that's not. In evaluation of this, things like how ambitious each of you are, how much success gets to your head, how much shame each of you feel in a bad situation etc are important things to evaluate.0|10|0Is this still revelant? - Our society teaches us that if something isn't working, it is cheaper to replace it than try to repair it. Unfortunately, people carry that attitude into their marriage and they divorce at the first sign of problems. Young people see that many marriages don't last and they think there is something wrong with marriage, instead of realizing there is something wrong with people who don't stay and work on the problems in their marriage.3|130|0Is this still revelant?
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- The stories have deeper meaning and of incidents both parties are responsible for.
We never know unless we walk a mile in each couples’ marriage so we can’t generalize.
If men hate women that much and we are painted as devils’ spawn why bother wondering how women feel, think or base their opinions on men or for dating or such?
It’s obvious that good women are painted as gold diggers and of surmount issues.
Well who is pristine?
What about the unfolding of their lives’ it’s events, men like Bezos who actually did cheat plus the many actors who apart from performing acts as a requirement of roles cast, go on to actually having affairs after set hours?
Many of these scenarios, the women would be out of the work force and post divorce keep a reserve amount to re enter.
It works both ways just not one.
It’s equal distribution of mental health issues or inflicted trauma over time.
Incidentally it’s inaccurate to represent a marriage as solely a woman’s way to reap money.
I never knew the ways of the world will never evolve. Sadly it’s very regressive not progressive.1|11|1Is this still revelant? - I think its because people want the wedding but dont think about ths marraige. Like so many couples spend a decade working and saving to pay for one big day that the wedding is an anti climax they've put themselves in massive debt and begin to resent each other. It's mostly women who instigate divorce rather than tough out the hard times, we lie to ourselves thst some other great guy out there wants us and will take on our kids of course we take advice from other women who intentionally give bad advice.1|71|2Is this still revelant?
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1262- Are you blaming Jeff Bezo's wife? It was Jeff Bezo's desire to divorce and his wife was nice - she wanted less than 30% of his earnings when she was allowed to take half.1|20|2
It's a meme don't take it so personally. Like fuck Jeff Bezo's and his wife lol
"Of HIS earnings"
lol right there shows she is a thief. I don't know who either of them are, but anyone taking someone else's earnings shows they are a real scumbag.
That is like saying they only robbed someone of his car when they could have robbed him of his house too. Oh, what a good person. lol- Show All Show Less
There was this celebrity couple and the guy was allowed to take half from his ex-wife and he didn’t take any money from her. I have never once in my life heard of a woman not take money from a divorce. Unfortunately many women are money hungry thots, that think buying expensive purses and jewelry gives them happiness.
- Wow!
Hey there's some truth in that. I'm not MGTOW by stance but I seem to be that by default maybe because of my standards or maybe just because I'm awkward or something but there's some truth in what you say maybe. But I know a happy life is often with a nuclear and an extended family. So here's the deal- I like Dave Ramsey and I heard him talk once about how the divorce rate is not actually 50%. There's a whole science for how they come up with figures because it's not all obvious how they would extract that but apparently it's not and has never been 50%, and there are risk factors you can reduce to reduce the chance of divorce drastically, such as being rich (haha jk, just checking). No, you can google it, but like sharing values, attending a religious institution (I'm agnostic/not religious but still support the idea). Anyway this helped me question long held acquired beliefs. It's still too high, the courts are still too stacked, it's still mega scary but there's not as much cause for pessimism or fear as has been entertained I guess. There is more room for honest optimism, both in terms of true stats as well as if one consciously identifies and manages the risk factors. Also yeah marrying the right girl helps, and marrying a girl who has had fewer partners so she can bond better and so she is likely to already be of a certain type.0|10|0 - I think it's because there's a lot of pressure for both genders to get married and have a family. From our parents and grandparents generations, they didn't really date around as we do now; they had to get married and start a family because it was expected of them and they couldn't do a lot about it without causing drama.
I think people nowadays have a lot more freedom from society. You can have 3 wives or you can have 0 and be a bachelor all your life. You can get married, have kids, live the white-picket-fence life or you can focus on your hobbies, school, etc because there's a lot more opportunity to do so.1|20|0 - In the old days the marriage contract was considered binding and you needed an actual reason other than, "I changed my mind" to divorce. Now no-fault makes it too easy.
Also in the past if the cause was adultery, the cheater got royally screwed in a divorce. The innocent party was usually given custody of the kids, the house, and most of the assets. Now the cheater, male or female, can file against the innocent spouse, still get half of everything, and if the innocent spouse is the primary earner that person gets screwed over when he/she was not the one who violated the contract.1|40|0 - Omg, I love the comic. its states the very obvious truth. You can work hard trying to make a living for those around you that you love. How about this instead of the some or partner waiting for him to get home late how about you go there help him feel like all this over time is worth it. Go there and bring him his dinner or go there take him out for a small bite let his brain recharge then he can finish his work in peace and not worry about so much of the time he is wasting. No, the spouse doesn't see to think that way. They just sit there wanting to spend time with there partner exempting him to be about to magical finish his work on time every day. Geeeezzz makes an effort to keep the marriage strong by helping. 50/50 means once you have someone in your life your sharing it (your life) so changes happen to cause your living for 2 now. People forget that it's hard to keep it all up by yourself daily.0|10|0
- Well their is some truth to this, however I will point out that Jeff Bezos cheated so I think that is absolutely grounds for divorce (I sure as hell wouldn't be with some one who cheated on me). However I think that their are several factors from the encouragement of promiscuity which damages the persons ability to be in a relationship (based upon many studies on the subject), their insistence that men are replacable (because no one would ever suggest that of women, only men), the general apathy to out right misandry towards men justifying their abuse, mistreatment, exploitation and the blaming of them for things that may not actually be their fault. Also hormonal birth control affects women by reducing their empathy with men, making them attracted to the wrong men, reduced sexual attraction in general etc.(which of course should be a no brainer, if steroids are bad for men why would doing the same thing for women be good?).0|10|0
Anonymous1 y2 reasons. 1. Monogamy is unnatural and the idea of staying committed to one person forever is beyond absurd. 2. Most women are evil and not really looking for love. They are instead just looking to manipulate men, show off for social media, and spite real women who actually want to be with the men they are with. Some are so shady, that they'd use mind control to make other women fall for a man that is giving THEM all his attention simply because they like seeing a real woman who needs love not getting it. That has happened to me a number of times.0|72|2Men have always been possessive of their wives (multiple wives by a man is the only "natural" thing) one reason is that men would much rather raise their own sons than some other man's and to know this means monogamy on the woman's part. Patriarchy is nature's default simply out of necessity for women to be provided and cared for during pregnancy and due to the fact humans are sexually dimorphic. Women were property due to this reason in over 90% of all cultures, historically.
- Too many marriages lead to higher possibility of divorces and higher frequency of divorces. If the less people marry then the lower the possibility of divorce and the less frequent divorces can occur or happen.
People should realize that this is something where "Your mileage may vary" and thus, marry at your own risk. There's ALWAYS that possibility of divorce in the future because it's unpredictable and not set in stone.
Marriage ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT GUARANTEE "happiness" and/or "fulfillment" in any form or way.0|10|0 - I'm officially done dating. One chick would cheat on her boyfriend with me, I started feeling guilty and disgusting. Once I was married for four years and I had to stay together with her and let her move in, pretend to have a relationship just so I could see my kids because she never brought them back when it was my turn with them as per the custody arrangement, I figured I'd try to make it work, eventually she finally left for good taking my kids with her and I'm still in family court fighting for them. I was used simply for company once, just like I was used for cash once. I have been stood up or cat fished by women on dating sites, they lie about their body type and have older or doctored up pictures. I started asking women out in person... they end up still being in a "complicated" relationship or married. Being good enough to fuck but not date isn't as nice as other guys might tell you it is.0|20|0
- To highlight one thing, which naturally hardly provides a solid foundation for concluding anything, but I am inclined to say society today. Core values such as family, loyalty and so on are not in style any more. The world is a maze of endless opportunities and so is relations. I think people simply give up to quick today - or let me refrase, since I am not capable of saying whether people are wrong or right in divorcing, but I think it has gotten too easy. If one thing doesn't work in our home, electronics for instance, throw it out and replace it... I think the concept is similar.0|10|0
- Women have no fear for repercussions. Marriage is just legal slavery for men. It DOESN'T WORK!
When she can fuck a million men and choose the richest nice guy to get married and then dump him so he is forced by the state to work for her shopping habits and bills why would a woman refuse all these privileges and freedom to stay faithful and loyal to a man? If women had things 100% their way they would literally enslave men and force them to hand over all of their hard-earned money because this is the way to fight "toxic masculinity". When me and my brother were already in our 20's taking our own path in life my mother was still complaining in the divorce court that she has "two kids to raise" to get even more benefits for as long as she could. It took her 15 years to admit defeat and finally sign the divorce papers because she wanted to have it all and destroy my father completely.0|20|1 - Its because men marry non marriageable women. And women marry non marriageable men. Its that simple. You can say what you want about religion but God tells us what it means to make the best marriages. You can be atheist all you want but those same requirements and ideals are still what it takes to make the best marriages. Too many people threw that all out the window and modern marriage does not work.
Men must be strong capable leaders who put family first. Women must take a feminine support role and submit to the husbands leadership. Neither should sleep around much if at all, especially women. This is the only way marriage works. Otherwise its a complete shit show.0|32|1@Shutupman oh yeah open marriages or those with women as bread winners, or dual income no children... something like that works better hmmm? No. No it does not.
Everybody is different. There isn’t one foolproof solution for a happy loving marriage.
What you are talking about it simply procreation within a family. People broke free from those strict rules for a reason. They did not work. People still cheated, had kids somewhere else or simply did not love one another but stayed together because there was no other way or it was socially unacceptable.- Show All Show Less
@Shutupman marriage is creation of a family unit. One person is not a family. Marriage without kids is not really marriage. How is it any different than just a relationship?
- It use to be you either couldn't get divorced or it was very socially looked down upon, but people can get divorced now whenever they want but the social pressure to get married is still there. It isn't stick with each other even thought it makes you unhappy its do what ever makes you happy0|40|0
- Because people view marriage as being this special, even sacred step that completely changes the nature of a relationship. When in reality, nothing changes beyond titles and a few legal documents.
I think people also realise that relationships don't always work out. A divorce is just a breakup but with more steps. Provided children aren't in the picture and legal safeguards were taken, divorce really isn't a big deal, especially when its mutual.0|00|0 - Almost every divorce involving somebody I knew well happened because they rushed into the marriage while the truth is they weren't very good for each other as dates, let alone living together or starting a family.
My advice to everyone of all backgrounds, races, and both sexes is to not get married or have kids before 25 years of age. Up until at least that point, your values and even personality will change.0|10|0 - The divorce rate is so high, because we tend to make poor choices about who we marry, and we tend to expect more from marriage or relationships than is reasonable. Also, too many people jump ship when things get rough, rather than trying to work it out. Of course, sometimes, there is nothing esle to do, than get a divorce, because the situation is so bad.0|10|0
- Believing bull shit like cultural Marxism and not understanding the real nature of traditional beliefs and how they connect us to nature and guide us in life. People take those old books literally and not metaphorically as they were intended. They are actually full of symbolism not literal events and written for people much less educated than we are today. People forget and bad things happen.0|10|0
- quick fact check... the marriage figures ar lower than ever before and at the same time those who do marry are less likely to divorce... ergo divorce rates are actually lower than previous generations0|10|0
... and fatherless kids are at an all time high, men aren't getting married as often... women are getting married as often so per-capita - the divorce rates are higher... if only you understood what per-capita means... so less people marry so of course there is less divorces BUT the divorce rate is higher, and guess who gets half of everything PLUS the kids even if she initiates the divorce and cheats before she even initiates it? she does
@UnicornLobotomy i do understand exactly what per capita means and thats why i fact checked you because recent research goes against what you are saying. im not so sure you understand percentages or the report you are working off is out of date. i will just clarify. whilst marriage is a dying thing those that do marry are less likely to divorce than previous generations... also if the kids stay with dad and mom has all the money then he gets half too so again, i can see where you are trying to go with this but simple facts are not backing up you traditional view
Tradcucks are bleating out rhetoric like you there bud, the courts are extremely biased against fathers, there are little loopholes and tricks specifically for women and mothers, its just a matter of how low the mom wants to go bud. I was witness to it myself and many other men have seen it first hand. VAWA had states adopt many of these laws and loop holes, and there's the Duluth model, there isn't enough room on in this little text box, you have no clue what are talking about bud.
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@UnicornLobotomy facts not rhetoric but seeing as you have no evidence for your side of the debate and wish to resort to insult i will put you on my list of askhole users and bid you farewell... rant on if you like but im hitting mute. as the old addage goes, you can't argue with a prick
- Modern culture instils mediocrity in people. You have to be mediocre: no high ideals, no honour, no reliability, no responsibility, no decency... Those subhumans eventually end up embracing materialism, nihilism, moral relativism and hedonism in their pathetic lives, when they don't play the goody-goody, so it's somewhat easy to spot them.
Not really surprising that these types bring misery to the other partner and the divorce rates are still have.0|20|1 - Because forever-sexual-monogamy is boring as fuck and not what humans (especially guys) are naturally supposed to do? So people get bored of their partner eventually and want to try other people? Which if they'd been doing the whole time, like they should have, wouldn't break them up?0|10|1
- 1. Women shouldn't benefit for divorcing under bad/weak reasons.
2. If you have divorced, them you can't marry again for the next 2 years.
3. Women who divorce for money should be put on a list.
Divorcing for money is fraud both monitory and heartwise fraud.
Marriage should be for love, you shouldn't depend on your partner for money.0|20|0 - People have an unrealistic view on marrage. Two people cannot spend as much time toghert without problems yet in out instant gratification world we don't want to invest effort into fixing problems. Divorce and or cheating is easier0|00|0
- Divorce rate is pretty high in my country but we dont have fucked up divorce laws yet it continues. I think its because people got the choice now to divorce today because they made a mistake and/or its just not working out which they didn't have a a few hundred years back or was very problematic eveen 100 years back.0|10|0
- The reason is that people jump into relationships too fast without really taking the time to get to know each other. Then they find out the bad parts about a person and find out they made a mistake.1|30|0
- In my case, she just wanted money out of me. After seven years of marriage, I lost my three businesses and my house. Now I live with six guys in a 2-bed apartment (3 beds per room) in Toronto, Canada. Doing one minimum wage job and food delivery on my off time still paying her half of my income, I think that's the trend they try to get every penny out of you.0|00|0
- People should wait longer, before getting married. By the way in a divorce the gender doesn't matter. The one who has less money and property, obviously wins. If that's a concern for you, do a prenup before marriage. Your points are obviously very extreme, but I agree that some ways we should treat women more like adults.0|10|0
- Most people don't want to wait it through and fight for a marriage. Also, a lot of people marry someone without considering their beliefs because that has a big play when it comes to raising children and how the household will peform.0|10|0
- Anonymous1 yYeah because I'm sure the only reason most women marry is to get money. It's not like we want love or anything.3|30|6
Financial stability is super important to many women, 70% of the divorced are initiated by women and financial problems are the main reason for divorce.
- Statistically the divorce rate has actually been going down.2|10|1
Oh geez.. another troll.
I know how this goes. First, you point out that things are getting better than they used to be, next thing you know we'll be in a discussion about why it's improving and how to make the future better than the now and the whooole topic will be derailed.- Show All Show Less
@DWD94 that is irrelevant to the issue and won’t change the divorce statistics. Not to mention the decline has been noticed since the 50’s and divorce rates have been going down since 1992. All that implies is that people marry smarter.
If there are less people getting married, then logically speaking there is going to be fewer divorces. Its simple..
@DWD94 Well I guess the question then is "What's the divorce 'rate?'"
Is it % of divorces per marriage, or % of divorces per person?@jayden888 It could also be divorces/year, which would be affected by the number of marriages.
@Shutupman I read the article and saw a nice graph, and clicked on the Cohen link included in the article. It also has a nice graph. I can't find the sources for either, but they do seem to support that both marriages/year is declining and divorces/marriage is declining.
@Boppy yeah most articles don’t seem to reference their sources, I’ve been looking. This is from the CDC itself. www.cdc.gov/.../...arriage-divorce-rates-00-17.pdf
Nice, I don't want to graph that manually, but I'll find some points:
Divorces/Marriage in each year::
2002: 41.7%
2008: 39.1%
2012: 39.9%
2017: 35.2%
While I was mathing this, I realized that it's not estimating the number of marriages that end in divorce, because I doubt many people are getting married and divorced in the same yeah. Bluh.
- Jeez, why not just slap a bitch back to her senses.
"I want a divorce."
*slap*
"What was I thinking? I love you"
Problem solved.0|20|0> "I want a divorce."
> *slap*
- "911 what's the nature of your emergency?"
- Domestic violence
- Assault
- "FBI OPEN UP"
- Get arrested
- Bitter wife adds something about looking at kids in a wrong way
- Court
- Most judges are females
- "Ya goin' to jail, boi"
- Get your rectum rekt in prison
- Recorded sex offender for life after 20 years in jail.Yeah you let her use the phone when clearly she needs more slapping.
https://youtu.be/i0GW0Vnr9Yc
- More men are realizing they shouldn't get legally married. If a woman insists on legal marriage she is pretty much telling him she wants to steal from him.0|30|0
- it's skeezy bitches. there is no doubt about that! there are skeezy men too, so don't call me a sexist.0|10|0
- Lack of communication and understanding each others needs1|10|0
- No fault divorce laws increase divorce rates. Materialism and instant gratification mentality has increased divorce rates, people namely women seem to be very opportunistic about divorce.0|30|0
- I think feminism needs to stop, but men need to show they care more, and not just ignore you and shit;-; same with women, it can be both ways. People give up more easily nowadays, and I heard people used to work things out before.1|10|0
- I would change the question ultimately to... Thoughts on our society, and education of values being so poor?0|10|0
- The divorce rate is probably high because people don't always know what they're getting into when they get married2|10|0
- Also, we are a quick fix society. Anything that takes work we give up on.0|10|0
- I think it's due to failed expectations. Everyone has a giant picture in their head of what the expect and significant others that are unwilling to meet demands because of their own expectations.0|10|0
- 70-80% of divorces are filed by women. Thus divorce rates are so high because of women.0|10|0
- I feel it's because people jump into it in thier prime time. When things get bad they don't want to handle it and just quit0|10|0
- People (mostly women) taking the easy way out, not wanting to work for their relationship.
Divorce should be abolished, that would teach people to GET TO KNOW THEIR PARTNER before getting married.0|11|0 - Culture doesn’t value marriage and there is a breakdown of the household. Which ultimately means a breakdown in society.0|00|0
- My wife will know its "until death"
So unless she plan on dying, she ain't leaving my ass 😂
0|10|0 - It's too easy to get one. People don't even trying. As soon as a problem comes up they get a divorce instead of fixing and saving the relationship1|10|0
- Good point that's why I'm doing escorts women cost nearly as much if there not working anyway and no heartache0|10|0
- A lot of couples would rather divorce than work on any of the problems that may occur within a marriage and then of course you have hypergamy.0|10|0
- Somehow, it needs to be harder to get married and easier to be divorced. Instead of the other way around.0|20|0
- Because both men and women (and especially the dumbest of men, that is, MGTOWS) choose partners based upon looks or wealth, and who don't consider what is needed in a mate for long-lasting love.0|10|0
- Lack of commitment to each other and thinking that everything will "just happen" with no effort.0|10|0
- I just think people go through hard times and that is why they end up
divorce.0|10|0 - People can divorce when marriage goes bad, rather than it being very hard.0|10|0
- Somebody's butthurt real bad...3|21|13
Hahaha oh jeez, and I got so many downvotes too 😂😂
Oh well, this app is just a bunch of people who think that guys are always the victims and are super amazing to their man eating females.
Suuure, like that's how the world really works. And if a girl does treat you like shit, well it sucks that you chose such a crappy partner.
Suck it up and be a woman? again, proof that guys are so butthurt over hearing "grow up and be a man" that when a girl gives an opinion, they automatically give her that response even though she could be someone who has never said that to a guy before.
Aggression never solves anything... butthurt people need to apply Vaseline 🤷When that applies to women too. So meaning to say it's ok for you to call men butthurt just because of the downvotes you get but you don't consider yourself butthurt for pointing out guys are being butthurt for you know whatever double standards you wanna give. And you know that will also prove that you are butthurt. So indeed suck it up and be a woman. I mean what's wrong with it? You don't consider yourself butthurt if you tell a guy to man up? Lmao talk about being entitled. More like being butthurt with men in general.
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And what aggression are you talking about? I was just pointing out that you were butthurt that's all. I've seen better offenses in playgrounds lol.
Lel I said butthurt before I even got downvoted.
And you make no sense. You don't even know me and just commented crap on here because of one sentence.
Yeah I think the pic he shared was bull, it was totally showing a very small minority of divorces and making it seem like females get the best deal out of divorces.
It's lame and small to support that kind of thinking. Don't hate on one gender just because youve been hurt.
it's weakYes that proves it yeah and it doesn't take a genius to understand what i said. Just like you don't even know the owner of the comment and you automatically assume that he was butthurt for simply addressing something or just asking a question. And he hate the gender? At what point did he say that he hate women? Those were just examples his show which exactly happens so? wouldn't that make you but hurt because of it? You are feeling that your entire gender is hated aww. Feelings doesn't prove anything.
Also in your case, here is a woman butthurt about men not getting married anymore debunked that got over 300k views. https://youtu.be/zO9nUBazWEg
You do understand that society is structured to give women everything and take it all away from men? This is how they pit us against each other, your gender is late to the party in terms of waking up to this because y'all have it too good
@ archon, again another white man thinking that the entire world lives like the USA and the west. Not everyone has those same laws, so yeah... more than 2/3rds of the world live a different reality in terms of divorce, so get over it.
"Gender is late to the party in terms of waking up this this because y'all have it too good"? Are you effing me?
Females have consistently had it worse in every regard, and the one time we have proper laws to protect us and the kids we fucking push out of us... and when a few females use that to their advantage you think we are wimps and "have it too good". I'm at a loss of words... look at history and how shitty we've been treated, and it's not like in today's world we are respected at all either because of people like high Heffner and media that think they gave females "independence" and a place in the world... as what? Sex objects. Yeah, we are soooooo respected and have it sooooo good.
Oh no, unlimited sex with no consequences, poor you! Complain about being a sex object more while 70% of ur day is focused on looking sexy
Yeah he just explained guys in your world. I hate to break it to you but this is reality.
70% of a guys day is focused on being sexy? Unlimited sex? I explained 5% of guys and 80% of women right therw
- People seem to typically jump into relationships too fast.0|10|0
- You're right, but saying that it's just from the woman's side is wrong. Sometimes it's because of cheating0|10|0
- It isn't so high. it's actually falling. But you've been brainwashed by the mainstream media.0|10|0
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