Women divorce men after they gave up on trying to change the guy, or hoping he would change. Most women already know what a guy is when they marry him but they choose to overlook it cuz they have cutesy romantic feels for him and are desperate to be a taken woman.
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A lot of the time he manipulates her by treating her amazingly and once he thinks she won’t leave, he reveals his true colors and treats her like an appliance to use from convenience and pleasure.
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@Phantomshadow77 So how come women can't see all this? I thought they always bragged about having "intuition."
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Because women fuck for excitement but marry for predictability. The desired traits are in opposition. Gone are the days in which people depend on marriage out of necessity and now are the days in which we seek what we need in a given moment.
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630 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic. Unfortunately it’s not always the man’s fault , there are a lot of selfish women on this planet that only want things her way , and if she doesn’t get her way , she will leave or divorce her husband over it. A lot of females’ have the grass is greener on the other side syndrome inside themselves , think she is supposed to be catered to at all times , if her husband isn’t giving her everything she wants , she wi find it elsewhere because she knows there are a bunch of thirsty guys’ that will side with her over her husband and make him the bad guy, when really she is the selfish POS person. I can’t tell you how many times I hooked up with married women and taken girls’ that told me they were single when really they weren’t , to find out she had a loving partner at home that lost his job , so she is out looking for another guy to latch onto that has a good paying job. They aren’t lovers, they are users and unfortunately there are a lot of them out there , that only think about themselves and no one else
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7 moMy then-wife initiated divorce proceedings after 20 years of marriage. We amicably divorced after 20 years of marriage. She had been a stay-at-home mom for many years. In the divorce, she got half of all our assets, almost all of which I had earned. She got to keep our second house, which she lived in, while I only got the proceeds from the sale of our primary house.
In brief, there is an economic incentive for women to get divorced. The wife almost always comes out better while the husband loses.
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That's why prenup is a big thing now.
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Similar to my scenario but I didn't make the 20 , she had done nothing financially and came out with a house ( incredibly expensive in Australia ) , I told her , just always keep a house , as you will never get another chance.
She took my advice generally
But lost 30% in another marriage , that pissed me off.
7 moMen stop dating their wives in many cases. They stop doing what attracted them to begin with.
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7 moYou're getting warmer with the money guess. One of the states in the United States recently made custody of children 50/50, which puts a major dent and the financial gain of divorcing. Guess what happened... their divorce rates dropped like a mother fucker. It's mainly financial gain in my opinion. Otherwise there is no incentive to not just work things out with the father.
Now, I'm going to be straight up and honest, I have a bias due to my Mother. She did the classic get pregnant, run off, and take them for child support. It's classic... my sisters and I all have different Dads and you already know it's because child support grasps about 20% of a man's income, and multiple children by the same man won't pay out any better. So my Mom collected 20% from 3 different men... before she divorced my step-dad, I watched her steal everything from that man. I guess you could say my own Mother was my first red pill and a reason to go MGTOW, lolz. I didn't though... been married for like 20 years or so.
I'm also not trying to say all women divorce just for the money. I just think the bulk of them get fed up with fucking the same guy, and they're smart enough to figure out how to divorce rape a guy for alimony or like I pointed out... child support, and basically leave with all the cash and prizes as well as the freedom to go bounce on random dicks.
I'd also like to note that it tends to be generational... I mentioned my Mom, well... she obviously learned it from my Grandmother. My Grandmother would systematically get married and then clean them out. She was even doing it in her 80's with a black widow style of doing it.
Anyways that's my thoughts on it... once in a while there is other reasons where the man is just wrong all around or the chick just wants to be freed up for some new dick. But I think most of the time it's for financial gain. I know the top stat for men divorcing women is because the women cheated on him... when it comes to why a women is divorcing a man though... they'll basically just make shit up a lot of the time. It's sad really. No fault divorce only encouraged that shit too.
What is it like 75% of divorces are initiated by women? Something is up with that... I mean the men that do it are pissed about getting cheated on, but what are all those women really divorcing for... really gets the noggin to joggin.
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I just had an after thought about this. Reminded me of this chick that was considering divorce to what she described as the perfect man on TikTok. She changed her tune fast because a whole bunch of chicks started responding to her how they want her man.
It's crazy... she went from seriously considering divorce for reasons along the lines of "soul searching" to being all about her man just because a bunch of women online wanted her man.
That's how wild the so called reason for a divorce could be.
7 moWomen divorce men because:
1. The vast majority of women do not marry the men that they want. If you look at dating patterns in 20's; 63% of men are single. Most women are apart of harems of the most desirable men in their age group or dating older, richer men. The men that most women ultimately get for marriage will be much lower than the men they can get for ONS or STR/semi-LTR of max 2-3 years.
2. Women body count are often downplayed heavily and in reality are quite high. Given body count has been linked to marital dissatisfaction and chance of cheating, it's easy to see why a woman with a relative high body count would not be satisfied with just 1 partner. Especially if she constantly is being given attention by other men that signal interest in her.
3. Women being rewarded with cash/money due to family court often incentivizes women to leave the marriage and not fight to maintain it.
4. Fickle nature of women often results in women being bored easily and not being content in a relationship. Many times, even when a man is doing everything for a woman, she is still not satisfied and wants more.
5. Hormonal changes from birth control may affect who a woman is attracted to. While off hormones and pregnant, a woman may find that she is no longer attracted to her husband.
6. Good boyfriend does not always equal good husband. Many men who were perfect as partners to hang out and go on vacations with may not be the good fathers. Many women may get stuck with the brunt of child care which can breed discontent and hatred for the spouse leading to divorce.
7. Familiarity breeds content. Over time, sexual attraction dies down due to people becoming uglier with age and spending time around each other enough to know each others annoying/unappealing side. A lot of people in general "Fall in love" because of lust and when that's gone and the annoying aspect outweighs the desire to want to sleep with that person, many people either step out and find someone else or divorce.
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7 moMarriage is for life.
The government and society and the laws and courts have made getting a divorce WAAAAY too easy and WAAAAY too profitable for women.
"I just don't love you anymore". So what?
"I'm not happy anymore." So what? Who the fuck is happy all the time?
NO FAULT DIVORCE. Are you fucking kidding me? One party can just say they aren't happy anymore and just UNILATERALLY end the union. And there reward for doing so is COURT MANDATED alimony payments? One party has to keep going to work and toiling and stressing and then they just have to pay it over to someone they aren't married to? Who may have even committed adultery but they get paid and rewarded for it?
They can BOTH have kids together but the wife is automatically given custody and the father is automatically demoted to "VISITATION" and paying the ex money for THEIR child?
Society and culture has made getting a divorce way to easy and common place and laws should be set up to promote keeping marriages not paying one party money to break the union the instant they "DON'T FEEL HAPPY"
10 Reply 428 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic. The divorce rate is so high because of Feminism - both the ideology in general and because Feminists pushed through several big changes in divorce laws that HEAVILY favored women and thus incentivized divorce, both financially and revenge-wise (men being forced to pay child support, but that not being in any way connected to the woman allowing court-ordered visitation, for example).
Fortunately, the world is finally starting to wake up to this. Kentucky changed their divorce laws to be a lot more balanced - for example, child custody is 50/50 by default and it takes some pretty major circumstances to modify that - and in the first year, divorces fell 25% and continue to fall.
Before anyone says "it's not better if two people who hate each other are forced to be together", and that's true. But it's still possible to divorce in Kentucky - the difference is that women don't get huge windfalls of money that financially ruin men simply because the old laws were so one-sided. The more important thing is that it's going to incentivize people to be more careful who they marry in the first place, and reduce the amount of "marrying for the divorce settlement" that has long been incentivized.
There are a dozen states that are either talking about following Kentucky's lead or are actively in the process of doing so, and I think we're going to see some major changes over the nest 5-10 years.
You get what you incentivize, and it's not an accident that the Feminists of the early 70s purposely incentivized divorce for women - it was done very intentionally, and the men of the day allowed it because it was marketed as fairness, and because they had bigger issues distracting them, such as the Vietnam War and the Oil Crisis and the abysmal state of the economy in the Carter years.
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If men put in the same effort their wives put in and tried to meet their wives’s needs rather than treating them as optional while expect their wives to treat their needs as mandatory, there would be less divorces.
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It's usually the opposite, and women's "needs" have increasingly become luxuries. They also tend to be constantly changing. Men's needs are very basic and have not changed.
Men want a marriage - women want weddings. So often, they care less about the man and more about impressing their friends and increasingly their Instagram followers. That's why so many men have stopped even trying to date. Women are literally taught to give nothing and appreciate nothing their man does, but they also have a long and ever changing list of demands.
It's easy for women to be alone in today's world when they are young and can still get male attention, but once they hit 35 or 40, that largely goes away, and most men won't be looking for them. There's already a lot of older women crying about being alone and men not being interested in bailing them out. That's going to grow exponentially, and as always, women will blame men, but it's the woman who changed the game and thought there would be no unintended consequences.
99% of the time when men divorce it's because it's worth it. Even if they aren't at fault they take the blame and get out and get gone to be done with the serious mental health issues that have been pushed by so many other nut jobs!
Humans are idiots, 70% can't actually get along long enough to be decent to each other. Things have seriously changed in the past 20 to 40 years. This is the me first but step on everything and everyone to get that instead of actually working for it!
Women are never satisfied they always want something else or someone else. Proven by a old book and belief system that 70% of the earth population reads and trusts in.
The other 30% are consumed with many other things and realized that humans are basically short lived at this point in the 2000s and it's basically grow up learn fuck have fun and die happy if at all possible.
This is my opinion based on experience and what I've seen and read and been involved in within the past 30+ years.
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Anonymous(30-35)7 moBecause women aren’t satisfied, they are brainwashed by feminism, by movies, by her female friends of pursuing green pastures. I really don’t care about pursuing women anymore. They are a headache, they cause drama, I don’t need them. Sex isn’t that important to me, companionship isn’t important to me. Yes, majority of my guy friends are married and have kids, and that’s good for them. But I was that guy who tried to courteous, courageous, chivalrous, witty, charming, talkative, etc. and all that didn’t matter so I’m done.
I understand not all men or guys are good, some cheat, some lie, some are not caring, some are lazy and don’t work or pick up the financial slack as a man should hence her divorcing him, some are abusive (verbally or physically). Those are all valid reasons for women or girls to divorce him and I’m on the side of women and girls for that reason. But beyond that for me, my experiences, my life, my broken heart, my rejections, ghosting and etc. I don’t trust women anymore. I don’t harbour any hate towards women for those painful experiences I just accepted as it is what it is.
00 Reply524 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic. It's lack of genuine effort and warped sense of entitlement. I'll give examples.
Not doing basic chores. Yeah you work, we do too, and when you don't clean or cook, we have to do it for you. Like a mother.
Wanting us to be stay at home moms, when you don't make enough to make that financially acceptable. We shouldn't have to live in poverty and rely on food stamps for your picket fence dreams.
Ceasing grooming and basic manners once you get comfortable in the relationship.
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7 moAre you trying to deliberately piss off majority of the men on this site. Ha ha ha ha. Your sentence is a full on attack on men LOL and insulting to those who are good.
What a friend of mine (back in freaking highschool) told me, "don't say all guys, say some guys. I'm not a guy like that and your words are insulting".
I felt so bad and for the next 22 years I've been using my words correctly so not to insult the innocent. We became good friends after that. Anyways.
Don't generalize. Some women are in the wrong too.
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7 moI don’t think it’s necessarily about what anyone is doing wrong , why inject blame? Women or men can decide that the marriage can’t continue due to irreconcilable difference , that doesn’t mean that either is wrong , they just can’t find a way to get what each of them want and stay together in the marriage.
If a woman of man wakes up one day after 20 years and decides they want to be single again for irreconcilable differences whether true or not then the marriage won’t continue , it’s not right or fair to assign blame. Sure they took their vows and made promises to one another in front of their god and or their peers but it’s seemingly irrelevant now and all the blame in the world whether justified or not won’t change that.00 ReplyMarrying them is the first thing we are doing wrong.
The second thing most men are doing wrong is not dumping the girl when the honeymoon period recedes.
The average number of children in a divorce is 1.8 so for most there are two kiddies and one for a few. The median is 8 years which closely correlates to having two kids and getting the youngest into primary/elementary school.
At which point, with the inherent child minding school provides, the median woman decides to cash out the marriage.
It is not more complicated than that.
00 ReplyFeminism told women they could have it all and the role of being the most important person in a home raising the next generation was of lesser importance than working for an employer who will chew you up and spit you out when a newer model comes along.
So women believed a lie that they were somehow "less" than men, when men have always been the ones that protect and provide so women could be free to create and encourage beauty.
Men - real Men, not Andrew Tate types - haven't changed. Tate and his minions won't sacrifice everything for their wife and family. I don't know a father who wouldn't die to protect their family.
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7 moIt's pretty obvious based on the divorce patterns. If half of relationships end in divorce and women file the papers 80% of the time, the bottom line is that women fear commitment and lack a moral compass in general. That's the state of modern women. They are broken.
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There is nothing men can do to fix broken women aside from avoiding the broken ones. When you have a disease sector of the population, you avoid breading with them so that they get weeded out of the genetic pool.
7 moSometimes it's all of those things. Sometimes it just simply comes down to you have tried everything to remedy a problem and you can't find a solution. Sometimes people outgrow each other and that's okay. I can't imagine staying with someone who I no longer love simply because we're "married". But then again, I can only speak for me. This cannot be applied to every scenario. There's always someone who has a different opinion.
00 ReplyI'm only 20 and not married but people need to make sure they are marrying the right one. One they trust, one who is honest, one who makes you laugh, one who picks you up after you fall down, one who loves sex as much as I do, one who shares some of the same interests.
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7 moWhat men are doing wrong? Who says it’s the men’s fault? Maybe women are expecting too much? Maybe women want to be treated like a princess but when the reality of life shows its ugly head women can’t handle it.
The fact is that life can be hard and if you are not willing to work together and maybe have to work hard, women are quick to leave for greener pastures (or at least they believe they are greener).00 ReplyMost of the time it is the WOMAN that is in the wrong. Women are often abusive, dishonest, not loyal, unfair, greedy, selfish, and lazy. (Expect the man to do FAR more work than she does.) Then the woman often gets rewarded for divorce when she is the bad person to begin with. The MAJORITY of women, at least American women are morally corrupt, terrible people.
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7 moBecause women don't respect men, they know once they get them legally via marriage, then they can loot the mans wealth, and god forbid they have kids - she will use them against him, force him to pay even more.
This is why men are bowing out and taking the 'red pill', marriage is nowhere near worth the cost.
And FYI - married women are the HIGHEST cheating demographic in the USA. By far.
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7 moWhat men are doing wrong is making the mistake to get married in the first place. Marriage is an antiquated, institution that only benifits woman. To many men however get bullied into doing it. If more young men realized how destructive marriage is and avoided it all together, they would be in a much better place.
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7 moit's funny that you're assuming "men" are doing something wrong. you know who has the highest divorce/separation rates? lesbian couples. you know who has the lowest divorce/separation rates? gay couples. so men clearly are not the "problem". once you accept the "possibility" that "maybe it's not men who are always at fault for everything", you could actually start some personal growth ;)
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7 mo“Men, what are you doing wrong?”
Always the man’s fault with these misandrists. Women truly can’t take accountability nor can they see that women divorce not because the man did anything wrong but because said woman wants his resources. Why do you think more women own houses compared to men?10 Reply- 362 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
7 moBecause the idea of being married is a lot more fun in the mind than in reality.
With time, people get tired of the obligations and the responsibilities of being married especially if kids are involved that women just feel like quitting especially if her husband sucks and is a pain to deal with.13 Reply- 7 mo
@Pearl222: I suppose.
Anonymous(25-29)7 mowomen also divorce other women at far higher rates than men divorcing other men
this is not the fault of men. it is the fault of women falling for the feminist lifestyle of unchecked hypergamy and unrealistic standards of ultra-capitalism amongst men
complain about capitalism but insist both women AND men compete in capitalism
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7 moThey don't always divorce men. There isn't 100% divorce rate between men and women.
70% of women seem to initiate divorce however.
But the divorce rate is 40-50% so go with 45
Each divorce is different so I guess you should ask the ladies. Not a blame game but it might be better to ask them since they initiate more. But it's not always.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic. Men never admit they are at fault.
Scroll through the comments, and you will see what I mean.
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What vapid, man-hating drivel. Scroll through 1.5k comments of utter nonsense, and somehow men are always the problem? Women have never had it better in history, yet this gets ignored. When confronted with facts, it’s just ‘men suck.’ Did any of you actually develop critical thinking, or is outrage the only skill here?
Men are deciding to stay married even in bad marriages, because they don't want to step out of their comfort zone and step into the unknown. When a woman decides it's not worth fighting for anymore she leaves.
21 ReplyMy brother's wife handed him divorce papers last year. They were together for 5 years and it was basically my brother cooking, cleaning and taking care of his daughters. The last straw was my brother's wife cheating and taking the girls. My brother did nothing wrong, his wife definitely wasn't happy in the marriage and wanted to mess around. He is happier now remarried though gets to see his daughters every other week.
00 ReplyMost guys go by the 80 20 rule. If life is 80% good they deal with the 20% without complaining. Women want perfect and perfect does not exist with humans, so they find a guy that they think they can fix. Since the only person they can fix is themselves, they always fail at relationships.
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7 moMost men who courted you eventually stop putting any effort in and you just become roommates. Lots of times when people fall in love they ignore the red flags but they are always there.. and in time will become unbearable.
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Most women never put in an equal amount of effort from the beginning and men eventually learn that they shouldn't even try when the woman doesn't, but many of the women's friends think it is fine and encourage her to be lazy, dishonest, disrespectful, and disloyal. Most women are terrible people.
Sometimes it's justified, for example many divorce cases are due to cheating. You shouldn't have to stay with someone you don't feel comfortable with. Everyone has their own side to the story.
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@HighValue according to this, men have reported cheating in their marriage more than women have
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Anonymous(45 Plus)7 moWhat are men doing wrong? They're marrying her in the first place.
There are very few women even capable of a lasting relationships anymore. Too many men choose the wrong woman. And too many men simply do not spend enough time properly vetting the woman they are with. A man should NEVER concern himself with how long it takes and whether or not she might quit him in the meantime. If she does then she isn't the right one that's all.
00 ReplyJust wanted to thanks drstanlyspelltemple@gmail. com for the love spell he had cast for me to get my husband back to me within 24hours, the spell took no time to show its action and the result was awesome and permanent, now my husband does not even talks or thinks of leaving me, Thank you Dr. stanly for your help to me. – Jon
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7 moA combination of factors. In the majority of cases its a bad decision for them and their kids.
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7 moYou all just talk as if one man being wrong means all men being wrong.
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Why dont you look at women's problems? Its feminism, metoo, unfair double standard, social media and self entitlement,
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Anonymous(30-35)7 moStudy after study has shown that lack of commitment is the #1 reason for divorce, and it's a statistical fact that women file 80% of divorces. So what does that say about women?
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Opinion Owner7 mo@Nikki1989 Cop out much?
A divorce means a bad marriage is finally over. Hopefully the next one you ask to marry works out better.
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Anonymous(18-24)7 moI don’t think it’s always women who do the divorcing. And you can’t listen to statistics. Statistics are wrong like half the time.
10 ReplyWhat is wrong with men? LoL
Let me burst your bubble
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7 moThis is a extremely weird question that doesn’t deserve a proper answer.
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6 moMy ex husbanded cheated on me 8 months after we got married. He went and got another girl pregnant. I then slept with other men to get back at him. We eventually broke it off.
10 ReplyYou B’s think you are so good at selecting a guy… nope. You suck at it.
00 Reply@mrshooiser It's Money and hierarchy in family
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7 moWell i can't speak for the women but what men are doing wrong is getting married in the first place
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lawyers and accountants on youtube leave comments recommending against it. They would know.
I'm curious, why is it that the "men" are doing something wrong?
There is always two side to every situation.
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7 moDo they really though? I expect it’s often because guys can’t keep it in their pants
10 ReplyA very common reason is putting kids before the marriage
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7 mothe only thing men are doing wrong nowadays is still getting married like gullible losers.
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7 mobecause if men divorce they will lose their cash. Women make money doing it.
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Anonymous(36-45)7 moWhen you look at divorce rates and domestic abuse rates among lesbian couples it becomes clear that men simply aren't the problem.
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Opinion Owner7 moLet me put it a different way. The divorce rate is 4 times that of straight couples, and the dv rate is between 4 and 8 times that of straight couples. When compared again men aren't always the issue.
7 moYou’ll have to ask every women that’s imitated divorce that. Which is a lot
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Initiated. (These phones lol)
7 moThink there's more options now a days than there ever was, which is why divorce rate is so high.
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Whats bad is there aren't more "options". Just more people. Those options suck, and we all know it. Its the "illussion" of options.
Women think the grass is greener on the other side. Truth is... its green where its watered. Modern western women are serial daters and serial fornicators.
7 moBecause women are simply harder to please than men are. Let’s be perfectly clear about something: it’s not anything that we’re doing wrong
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Anonymous(36-45)7 mowhy) Because they are empowered and even encouraged to do so by the government.
what) Letting women roleplay as empowered agents with rights.00 ReplyIt’s the cheating.
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7 moSuck it up. You made a deal with God.
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7 moIt would be GREAT if that hag divorced him!
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