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Problem for me is somewhere between talking to them and then hanging out girls always talk to me or at least give me some kind of attention but it never goes anywhere probably because I pass over opportunity’s of taking them out like this last girl legit asked me when I was talking in class why is di not ask her if she was hungry when I got food and I said “ how was I supposed to know” like a dumbass
Pretty much. You don't need to "know" really, you just ask them out if you're interested, that's how you find out whether they're interested or not. Otherwise nothing will usually happen.
Women who say they they want nice guys you can't listen to what they say because what comes out of their mouth is invalid because they do the opposite of what they say. You have to look at their actions and their actions say they are not attracted to so called nice guys. Look who they end up with dating and they reward these guys with sex while the nice guy gets friendzoned. I'm almost 50 so I have been around so don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do.
There is some truth to this but I don't agree with all of it. Women are not to blame for creating nice guys just as much as men are not to be blamed for creating bitches. Each has responsibility for their own actions. Take a look at what some women wrote on here, pretty sound advice. Yes men need to take action and face rejection. Tough luck.
I agree that honesty is key and passive aggressive nice guys are as toxic as the bad boys, just in different ways and I guess the bad boys have a life.
You gotta understand that when women imagine a guy approaching them, they imagine Brad Pitt (even if they themselves are 200 lb ugly trolls). And if Brad Pitt was to appear, he really could only be nice, and still get laid (pretty much anything he did would get him laid). But what happens is Brad doesn't approach them, but Steve the plumber does. And of course, the same strategy won't work for Steve, he needs a lot more effort and skill. So no guy should pay any attention to what women say they want, because women ALWAYS end up with the polar opposite of the guy they say they want. I learned it the hard way, in high school the girl I liked always said she liked tall black haired muscular guys (and I was one of them), but then she ended up fucking a blonde scrawny little guy who looks like he is 11 years old.
Actually good insight. I think in many women’s minds when asked how they want to be approached they take that to only count for guys they want to approach them already.
I doubt any technique can make joe plumber work. It’s as you say.
Example:
Guy: “How should a guy win you over if he likes you?”
Girl: [internal thoughts: ah, well let’s see. Those other guys need not apply so...] “Well he should be funny, charismatic and kind.”
Guy: “That’s it?”
Girl: “Yes silly. It’s not complicated.”
Joe Plumber: “Hello. Can you believe what X did the other day? It was really silly. Anyway, my name is Joe. How are you?”
Girl: “Eww, get away from me creep.”
Brad: “Hey, hows the weather?”
Girl: “😍😍😍.”
THE TRUTH folks.
Forgot to include Joe Plubler’s reaction.
Joe Plumber: “😟.”
Women are attracted to to power which they desire to benefit from and dispose of those who threaten her supply of power. If she doesn't like nice guys what does that say about her intentions as a moral person? She herself sees morality as weakness. Power is what matters.
Your title is straight on from what I've noticed. If you ask pua's they would agree with your title. I didn't read any further than the title by the way. How a pua would put it is that girls don't want nice guys or bad guys. They want good guys. A guy that treats them well but isn't afraid to stand up for himself.
Great take! I expected this take to be "Look how pathetic nice guys are and how you should be a bad boy" but I was wrong. I tend to be a nice guy so I'm kind of afraid to be bunched up with the "nice guys" while it's just the way I like to be. However, I do severely lack confidence when it comes to approaching women in real life, especially admitting I have feelings.
There are legitimately genuine nice guys---they have the proper brain chemistry and should be sought out.
Then there are the "nice guys" who are just defective and should be avoided.
First and only accurate and honest description of this phenomenon I have seen on this site.
Giving women free will one of the biggest in life isn't it?
It was much simpler back then
Women definitely bad in giving advice , women are so damn complicated that other women and even themselves for that matter don't know anything about themselves
Even lesbians have higher divorce rate than gay men
Fuck that the nice guy act BS it ain't gonna get ya nowhere just stop giving a fuck on how to act and who knows someday an opportunity may strike
All I know is guys shouldn't take dating advice from any woman, even a woman that claims to be a dating expert should be ignored.
I'm nice and have few problems. I also enjoy life so that helps, too. Mainly, though, I think I do well because women realize I'm not "fake manipulative expecting a blow job because I helped her out" nice.
The following video sums it all up very nicely...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/JYlPhFj_3T0TLDR, their mom’s raised nice boys that women don’t want.
Nice guys problems is that they aren't hot have value for the girl
Thank you for the translation of why dating SUCKS! Now can we find a solution to the problem?
Good Mytake. Women don't find nice guys sexually attractive, never have never will
I'm not a nice guy any more nor do I talk to women any more so there.
nice guys struggle with women because women are wired to not like nice guy. its a behaviour they cannot control. deal with it.