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All this may work but is it really worth the effort.. all this just for sexy pussy, just for momentary pleasure.
Rather be mature and find someone worth your companionship. Don't go after girls it won't make your life any better in any way, it will just satify your ego.
Spend your life and energy on something you really think is worth it
When there is a timer counting down in the middle of the table with a new lonely lady with even lower self esteem and self recrimination issues than you have take the place of the loser sitting across the table from you ever time someone yells "TIME" what do you expect?
Umm, communication? Skipped over that one, I don’t think guys learn how to talk to women until after they get into relationships. Thats why this red pill shit is peaking now because social media has destroyed what was left of their communication skills.
It's funny, once men do this they realize having a woman isn't that important. That's when women obsess over a man.
I stopped trying to date and just started trying to make people happy and that's when I met my crazy bitch of an ex. The only reason I got a first date is because her boyfriend dumped her then later that week her apartment burned down so I took her to a concert two states away, payed for a room, and made sure she understood that the world isn't as shitty as it has been too her. Two weeks later she showed me the biggest and brightest red flag I've ever seen and disappeared for 6 months. But you know what they say, when you're wearing those colored glasses all the red flags just look like flags.
Almost 3 years later she was assaulting me and throwing shit actors the room at my head.
Very true ya you don't need to be in a relationship to be happy. Some let it get into their heads that That is the definition of happiness :/
For some of them guys to get frustrated dating you don't need to be frustrated the right one will come along for everyone I'm single but I'm just playing the field
Ya it's just that I've seen that question come back a few times this week
Yeah me too guys just can't give up
Much like skin colour, hair and eye colour, height is a physical trait which cannot be changed - maybe society should be outraged at all forms of discrimination not just skin colour.
@neilsmart thank you
A lot of men are their own worst enemy. Like it says in the book "Are Men the Weaker Sex" (which we can download for free from many online bookstores), a lot of men will only date women who are pretty. If they weren't so judgmental, they could probably find lots of women to date. But they "shoot too high" and then complain when they can't get a date. But judgmental guys do women a favor. We wouldn't want to date someone who could dump us if someone prettier came along, anyway.
As condescending as that book title is no one can argue that dating a guy that would dump you for the first hotter girl that came along is a bad idea.
Shut up you crazy sexist fuck.
What about women? I bet if you posted your pic and personality and hobbies here you would rate yourself higher than I would. That’s with me being honest and not trying to be thirsty like most white knights are.
Most women really have no idea how high they should be punching so they shoot way over what they should. Not every woman can have a 10...
Very well said.
I've told people for some time now, if you want to attract a high quality individual, then you must BE a high quality individual.
And I 100% agree about the positive mindset.
I genuinely feel like I have a fair shot with having pretty much any girl I want, simply because I know I have a lot to offer the girl I end up choosing to be with.
And I agree about doing things with 100% effort.
Quality input equals quality output.
Great MyTake👍
I think it's because of your gag user name that you have a fair shot with pretty much any girl you want...
Lol thanks. It honestly look me about 3 minutes to come up with that username 😂
Amazing
A guy can make improvements, but he can't be what he is not. A 5 guy might become a 6 or possibly a 7, but unless he inherits a fortune, he will never be an 8. The problem with too many guys is they are attracted to girls way out of their league and some guys become angry because the girls they want are impossible for them.
Indeed. Most of us want a hottie.
@Thatsamazing True, but for every hottie, there are 50 guys. Therefore, by the time we are in high school, most of us realize hotties are not available to us so we look for more average looking girls.
Right.
Actually i know of 2 players that do that. Mike Matusow and Phil Hellmuth. Lol
Still i found the mental image you put in my head funny.
ah shit hahaha
I haven't had trouble meeting and making friends with women, but most are already in relationships or otherwise not interested in more than friendship with me. I like female companionship, though, so I'm OK with it, even though I would like a romantic relationship.
This is true. But sometimes a guy needs a place to ventilate his hurt, anger and rage (safely) and get it out of his system. From there he needs to get back on track.
As for Karma. The younger me used to believe it. But when I see dbag people getting happily married with kids I wonder “well Karma seems to take a long time to get around”
Well exercise is scientifically proven to vent stress... boxing... running.. swimming.. lifting. It is goodfor the heart too... and writing about it too , can burn paper afterward.
@LovingLover I’ve done all of that and helps. I exercise and eat healthy almost every day. I have a good job and I’m working to better myself.
But if a guy gets rejected five times in a row it’s going to impact him.
Well onehas to be reasonable. As a girl who rejected before it was a lot of times not to do with the guy. Sometimes she is taken... other times her life is not suitable for relationship... other times she has baggage. And she will not tell strangers this... Optimism... but many times we find love when we aren't r looking for it... they just need to grab the opportunity when it comes... lol imagine Tiger who missed the prey so many times he lies down and a deer passes 2 inches from his face and passes again and again.. infact this deer likes him but he gave up trying... most times than not like over 50% it is not being in theright place... people fjnd each other in clubs... language exchange groups... by being open and kind... just look at a Turkish film please... by the way I am usually the one who rejected a guy more than once before accepting a relationship and recieved beautiful ones.
Some guys are not ready or material for a relationship and same is true for women... we are in a world with messed up people... but not all
@LovingLover where I live is notoriously tough for bachelors. That is part of the problem. I want to move but it’s not that simple.
Funny thing I spoke to an older friend a few days ago. He said he moved out of my state for that exact reason and it worked for him.
Just last week I had a 33 yr old woman I was chatting to on OKCupid inexplicably block my profile and I thought she blocked my number. I waited a few days and sent her a SMS on my Skype number. I started off with saying “hey I promise not to send you any more messages after this but please tell me what the hell I did to be treated that way”.
Turns out she went out on a date last Friday and the guy did “something” terrible or so she says. She said she wanted to get away from everybody. I said that was understandable and the door was still open. I also said I regretted sending her that message but I didn’t know the context (she didn’t respond to my phone for 4 days). When we chatted earlier she wouldn’t shut up. She sent me several lengthy texts.
Anyway she’s not the worst example but she’s common. She sees nothing wrong with wasting other guys time depending on her mood. She wasn’t that interested to begin with but she getting virtual attention boosts her ego. I didn’t message her since and I doubt I’ll hear back from her.
This is par for the course nowadays where I live. About 3 out of 4 women are like this to a certain extent.
Point I’m trying to make is that some of this male anger you are seeing is justified. Western society does try to setup men to fail romantically.
BUT that doesn’t mean we should embrace a “woe is me attitude”. But first LISTEN to what these guys are upset about. Take them seriously.
Then give them steps to improve. Challenge them to change. But it’s still a 2 way street. Too many women are self sabotaging themselves today by being overly picky and/or nasty to men.
Ay males... don’t let this distract you from the fact that some women want wage gaps to end but don’t have the audacity or the balls to approach a man or go for what they want. As Delta said below “Rule 1:
Don't listen to women when they give you dating advice. They have no fucking clue what they're talking about nor do they possess the capacity to develop a working comprehension of what they're talking about.” Like bruh even lesbians have a hard time understanding their own gender.
Exactly. She's trying to manipulate men into sucking up to and submitting to women. Guys with a leveled head should know that women are manipulative af. Who is she? Who are these women? What makes them so special that guys have to change themselves physically and mentally to cater to them? Lmao
For Men Unsuccessful in Dating - Frustration & Bitterness, don't listen to women's advice. I did and I've gone insane, bitter, and frustrated because the advice I take from women was always a joke.
Look up alpha male dating videos, discussions, and also take the red pill.
I think people just need to be themselves and find someone who likes them for who they are. Finding someone can be hard but, getting rejected isn't the end of the world, move on lots of people out there. There is no creating you're perfect self, no ones perfect. Be content with who you are and if others don't theie loss. Looks don't mean everything.
It's simple guys. Stop seeking female validation. Ignore all women if you have to. The moment you start giving them attention, you start getting weak and want their validation. Every young man goes through this. Stop giving women power over you!
Also, who are these women that makes us men have to change ourselves mentally and physically just to cater to them? Who are they? They better be a literal god to have that much power over someone lol
Exactly! I remember seeing a post where this 19 year old guy wrote that he wanted to commit suicide, because he could not get a girlfriend. I asked him two very simple questions. The first one was whether he knew himself, and the second one was whether he even knew anything about the girls he was willing to kill himself for.
When he realised that he did not know either, he decided not to kill himself.
Who are you? I can ask you the same. What is this antiwoman agenda. No wonder more and more women become lesbians
@hi_it_is_me123 then become lesbian, who the fuck cares.
@6suejsjsj Im ignoring her because she's proving my fucken point! Lmao
@Kdude010 YES. Find your worth in yourself, by yourself. Women will actually come around to you once you find your self-worth first
@Yads_Is_Back
The whole point is, men shouldn't have to be near-flawless and self-actualized before being "worthy" of women. If decent honest men aren't good enough for women right now, then these women aren't good enough for men. And that's the thing. You're basically asking men to become perfect, then give up all that independence for some woman who may not even stick around. Imagine if society told women they all had to be Instagram models with half a million followers, half a million dollars in the bank, and a flawless personality before being worthy of any average mediocre man on the street to come along and bask in the empire this woman has created for herself. Now try to understand why so many of us men are fed up with this bullsh*t. To where just being a decent hard-working man with principles is no longer "good enough" and that not being James-f*cking-Bond nowadays means you're just a lazy slobby incel piece of sh*t no woman would want. Can you see why MGTOW (men opting out of pursuing relationships with women) is becoming such a growing movement nowadays? It's ironically no different than the women's sexual lineration of the late 60s which said women don't have to be housewives to be happy. Only when it's men this time who want to be liberated, so many women, if not most, hate it and start calling it some "incel" sh*t.
*liberation
@MCheetah No sir, that’s not what I’m saying. “Decent and honest” is enough for me. There is no “perfect,” but decent and honest I can deal with. If I wanted perfection I’d be single forever. You get what you give; both sides have to give effort. That being said, really anybody who dates isn’t looking for perfection because if so then you’re just settling every time. Decent and honest and hard-working - what you said - is worth me putting my effort into. If he’s that way and we are both attracted then let’s go 😊
I see your points and all that, and I get that it’s difficult for men now, simply because everything is backwards from what it should be. As in, I’m never gonna know first-hand what it’s like living as a male in today’s world, but as a woman who has been raised traditionally and is culturally against all the feminism and anti-men and women-favored society, I agree with your points... up to one point. MGTOW is a joke to me, simply because 1) I’ve had plenty of MGTOW guys ask me out once they learned how I’m not anti-men and I hate how society treats men just as much as they do. 2) Men who go MGTOW did also have the choice of not making women the priority but also finding a woman who is good for him and worth his effort and actually gives him something to be glad he put that effort into, and it shouldn’t be much effort, just showing he’s attracted too. But MGTOW guys give up on that because they’re miserable, whereas some guys prefer to find that woman who will treat them right, and no I don’t mean some old chick in her late 30s or over.
Women who appreciate men do exist; I am one. Living proof ✌🏼So that’s why I see MGTOW as a joke. I’ll never know what it’s like to feel like something like MGTOW is needed, and you’ll never know what it’s like to be a minority traditional female who hates feminism and the way it’s affecting me too, not just the men.
@Yads_Is_Back
"Men who go MGTOW did also have the choice of not making women the priority but also finding a woman who is good for him and worth his effort..."
You're basically describing me. I am not MGTOW. But I considered twice in my life. On some serious stuff though, I was legit depressed throughout my twenties after being told time and time and TIME again by women that I was too short to date them, that they aren't into black men or non-white men (regardless of theor own race, some black women included), that they wanted a man who "looks like a REAL MAN" (six pack) and so on. I used to want the family and kids cliché life, too. Society conditioned me into it. It's literally only been about three years though, at the current age of 33, did I finally realize that it's SOCIETY that's f*cked up, not me. Women wanting the bad boys is 100% real, and bery very few "nice-but-confident" men exist because they're typically a walking contradiction and the few there are, are usually police or military trained. I've been called short by so many f*cking women - I'm 180cm, by the way - that I legit stopped trying. I never became an incel though because I always blamed myself and not women. Until I saw all the "Chad's" getting divorced and paying child support and all that crap at my same age now. Now, I almost think I dodged a bullet by being short, dark, unattractive looking, and not-in-shape. I think the "happy wife and family" life is an illusion and most of it is more misery than joy nowadays.
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So no. I'm not MGTOW. I still want a woman and would lend my heart to her. However, I'm older and wiser too; enough to realize the kind of woman who would give her heart to me in a mutual loving relationship likely, literally, does not live on this Earth. And that I literally have a greater chance at becoming a billionaire in the next ten years than that happening. So I haven't given up on women. I'm just aware enough of the world to know it's likely never going to happen and that it's wasted time and efforr trying to make a woman fall in love with me. I'm open to it, if it's possible. I just highly doubt it is.
@MCCheatha Nobody ask men to be perfect. They are then one who date bitches then cry when he get used up by her. So your fault. Women are also excepted to settle down in their 20s while men have the time of their life. I rather get judged by status and money, than my body and age. Be happy thst you dont get treated like second hand product after you are 30.
@hi_it_is_me123 and @mcheetah
Let’s be real, both genders have problems. Both of you just mentioned some, and there are things that both genders can do to make the experience better for themselves, but ultimately your happiness depends on you and not the validation of others, as the original post says.
Women have come to believe that men aren’t good enough anymore, and then now men say the same of women after that. Ultimately it’s a whole war, and both genders could solve their problems if they were selfless enough to do it. That’s why I do it as an individual and am a minority (traditional anti-modern feminism) in my own gender, yet I love my options in dating and I appreciate the life I have when I imagine my future with a man and kids. It’s like everyone wants to keep doing stupid crap and complaining about the stupid consequences that result and blame it on somebody else.
@mcheetah I cannot express how much I respect you for not being a simp and giving up like those guys do. Those guys give feminism the attention it wants and fuel it, and they don’t even realize it. I don’t know how short you are, as you say, but your attitude is exceptional nowadays, and I hope someday a really good woman finds value in that for herself. You deserve the best for that, in my opinion.
It gets a lot simpler as soon as you actually get what you thought you wanted a few times; and then realize you were a lot better off and happier without her :)
The poker reference is a good one. Be ause the best choice is take you money get up and leave the table. Remember the house i. e. women always win in the casino of love and will leave you with nothing.
How can I get a new haircut when I lost most of my hair at the age of 27? How can I even try to get a girlfriend when I have a social anxiety and bullied and rejected a thousand times since childhood? Sometimes life just won't let you work on / improve yourself, some people are not really meant for this world and life.
What caused the hair loss?
@Truthatanycost genetics and stress
When I started to have hair loss, someone told me about Moringa leaf. After a few weeks of drinking just 1 teaspoon a day in water, on an empty stomach, it's starting to grow back. Skip to 1:40 in this video and the old man shows his before and after. He was not taking it for hair loss, it was just an experiment.
The brand I use is Kiki Health, but there are many others, and it's cheap. It also gives you lots of health benefits because it has 92 nutrients, 46 antioxidants and lots of other goodness. Just be careful if you're on medication though, or talk to your Doctor.
It generally takes 6 months of consistent use to grow hair back.
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and what about guys who are autistic, half of the time they can't even change anything no matter what they do
I get the feeling, that autism isn't going to be a factor here. Non-autistic men can't get a girlfriend just as much.
@Unit1 yeah, but some autists can, but it's a pretty rare thing nonetheless, most of them just live out the rest of their lives in group homes
There’s a difference between 5% of the population and 70% of the population being useless...
If you're playing the game you've already lost. I think of people like... you know? People. It's about having the 'connection', I doubt it should be seen as a game.