What I learned from attracting women over messaging or a first date

[Apope16]

I have dated over 30 women slept with about half of them. None of that matters. Its not a qualification. It's just to get you to hate me even more before you read more.

What I've learned messsaging women and getting them on dates is that the bullshit "be a nice guy" routine that most women tell you = friendzone .

A guy must be Angel and Devil. He must have the potential to be a sweet and kind guy. But she also must wonder if he's an asshole. This mystery is addicting. I have found as a sweet kind guy that I attract women by having the persona of being a little bit cocky.

Step 1: The Hook

You match with a girl. Or she messages you. Reply with a friendly and excited response. (She thinks you're a nice guy). Then make some reference to her profile.

Step 2: Provoke Personality Conversation

Based on something that she says or something in her profile make some joke about her personality. "I see you have a tattoo/nose ring...does this mean you are a badass or a sweet heart?" (She sees that you actually are interested in HER not just her body).

Step 3: You MUST bring up Sex in a subtle way!

If hints at sex never come up. You will likely be friendzoned. There are ways you bring up sex without being creepy. "Do you prefer boxers or briefs?" or "So what attracts you most about a man's body?" When she asks the same thing to you...this is important. YOU MUST BE BLUNTLY HONEST. If you like boobs. Tell her "I am a boob guy." or "I am a butt guy." Don't base it on her figure. The honesty will turn her on. If she tells you that she doesn't have that quality. Tell her other things that you like about her. By bringing up a horny topic she will wonder if you are a creep or a sincere guy who likes her. This MYSTERY is a GOOD thing.

Step 4: Deep Conversation

Don't dwell on sex. Switch to something deep. "What does a perfect day look like?" "What is it you want most in your life?" Another good topic is favorite childhood toys/shows.

[Anonymous]

Uh... No.

That's not how the mind of a woman works at all, brah.

1. Be approachable.
2. Do something nice for her.
3. Be her company.
4. Listen.

Be approachable. This is self explanatory.
Do something nice for her that makes her feel special like draw a quick sketch of her and compliment something small about her, like "the essence in her eyes".
Talk to her and be good company. Don't push in on her space too quickly. Get to know her by asking questions about herself without making it too bland and apparent. Most people love to talk about themselves.
Listen to her. Take note of what she dislikes. Avoid doing that. Be the positive reinforcement she may sometimes need.
Let her grow on you.

[coolhandroo]

I do not recommend this strategy unless you want to Perdue one woman a year or watch sex and the city with her before you go home and jerk off

[Apope16]

Yeah. My first 27 years with that strategy made me a ladies man... in the best friend zone. 🤣 you will be likevthe gay best friend for guys

[Truthatanycost]

Whats that from? The official guide of how to correctly navigate the friendzone LOL.

[YourFutureEx]

King of sarcasm 😂

[invalid1]

Well it depends, still depends.
I don't care how many women you dated even 300. If you make such a rough generalisation you still know little with all due respect. - especially about their preferences.

Because in my view women are really as much different as are we guys. I don't really think among guys that there is any magical recipe for girls to deal with us. And besides, it happened coinsidentally that I have followed every single point you listed literally with a girl, we are apart now, she rejected me. So still it depends.

[Apope16]

What you see above isn't magic bro. Its a template. A guide. A general strategy to consider. Every girl is different. But these ideas are tried and true

[deadroses18]

All u guys are stupid lmao but don’t worry becuse at the end of the day u can treat us like shit push us away and we will still text other people and get over you dominate is great but stuck up men like u aren’t you give me very much small dick vibes dumbass u prolly aren’t even dominant you prolly fell in love and got hurt so try to act tough but one day u will fall for a girl that ur trying to hurt but relize u love her or ur just a fucking asshole that doesn’t have a heart👍

[Apope16]

Anger. Thats a good emotion. It signals that a lady cares about whats at stake. Its a sign of attraction. Whats worse is indifference or not caring. But as long as a girl hates me or thinks im a stuck up prick then I have something to work with. Women want to be swept up. Good or bad. They want to feel emotion.

[deadroses18]

Or some girls will actually give u the same treatment back

[Barbaric]

Giving the same treatment back only works with guys who have few options.

[Truthatanycost]

Exactly, on this site you see girls complaining about guys, but you never ever see long posts about the nice guy they met.

[deadroses18]

@Truthatanycost I was saying it to that guy but I have met really nice men I’m not other girls I don’t believe all men are stupid and mean. I believe some did get treated right or if they didn’t then they learned from life experience how to be treated like they want to be treated. And I do belive that not all girls are good or nice.

[ChrisG30]

I used to be "the nice guy". When I saw a PUA I learnt the truth about female attraction. Girls like most when a guy is in control and has choice of his women. That's why women are attracted to a man when they see other women show interest in him. That's why confidence is attractive too, it shows the guy is in control of his choices - you go after what you want when you think you can have it. Thus women feel chosen when a confident man approaches them.

[deadroses18]

Well there is a difference yes dominant boys are good a lot of girls like them but when a guy just dosent give a shit about them that’s stupid and also a lot of girls are starting to stick up for them self and starting to know that boys can’t walk all over them

[Justneedtokno]

Plus I think when you use dating apps or anything you’re always getting to the meat of everything very quickly instead of having the time it takes to get to know that person if you were face-to-face

[Apope16]

I think you make a great point. I want to point out that this strategy also works on in person dates too. I once got laid after asking a girl "boxers or briefs". It led to a conversation about lingerie at a bar.

[Justneedtokno]

It also depends on which app you use. Like tinder for example that’s a straight hook up app versus others like coffee meets bagel or something you’re not looking for that specific thing there versus the other

[Apope16]

Very true. Bumble is a bit more sophisticated. But i use tinder, cupid, bumble, and real life. Generally works.

Works for ladies too

[Ozanne]

Yes, good Take. There are some good pointers for other guys to consider when they are trying to attract a woman.

My personal peeve is the whole nice guy routine. That's something for me to decide, not something that a guy has to tell me or show me. I'm not interviewing a candidate for a job - so don't bullshit me. I happen to know that everyone has their flaws, quirks, and regrets, so instead of someone advertising themselves as being so wonderful, how about just be normal and let me/us figure it out.

Also, the diving into sex conversations. To me, that just says that's all that's on the mind of that person. In days pre-internet, we had to do a bit more work to get involved with people, and it led to a lot of build up. Nowadays, you can just send nudes or get into sexting, all from the cowardly comfort of one's phone and if there is one wrong move - the block feature allows someone to never have to deal with it from that person again. So let's all just assume that we're sexual beings and can't wait to get into bed with each other. What happened to the build up? That was the best part! :D

Last, the one thing that used to attract me more to a guy was his not talking about sex. It would make me want to know what lurked behind his eyes more. Then out of the blue one day, if he mentions something about sex, it would catch me off-guard and affect me more. So it's like a pitcher knowing when to throw the slider. He has to send it to the right batter, and even then, plan it perfectly.

As tempting as online/digital means can be to get sexy very quickly -- don't! Leave the other person wanting to dig further, because those are key ways to get to know each other and find out if it's even wise to sleep with them. ;)

[brennanhuff]

Online dating doesn’t provide sex easier. Or not for most guys. It’s even more competitive for guys as the ratio is lopsided of men to women and you’re at the mercy of algorithms. Plus many women use them just for attention and to not meet guys. I’m a handsome guy yet dating apps have not worked for me whereas attracting women irl hasn’t been a problem for me

[guesswhoseback]

“Last, the one thing that used to attract me more to a guy was his not talking about sex. It would make me want to know what lurked behind his eyes more. ”

Alright I can understand where you are coming from. There is a very low threshold to creep girls out and guys have to be careful about this.

BUT if a guy never brings it up then it can make the girl think the guy is comfortable with a platonic relationship. This is equally dangerous for the guy. He just wasted a bunch of time and effort to get friendzoned.

No man is going on dating apps just to “make friends” with women. That doesn’t mean he just wants hook ups. He might want a long term relationship as well. But he is a man and please stop pretending otherwise. He has take be up front about where he stands.

I’m personally just so sick and fed up with so many women being confident that the guy is okay with the friendzone. It’s not a sex issue but more of a respect issue. He’s a man and don’t treat him any otherwise.

[brennanhuff]

Plus online dating if a guy brings up sex since women are most likely to believe a guy might be a creep online. I don’t think it’s a good idea like op has said to bring up sex unless she’s flirting or goes where seems like a safe way to go. Guys need to remember these women have never seen these guys in person. So even if he’s being nice and funny she still can’t get a vibe like she would in person. A woman doesn’t know if a dude is a serial killer behind the screen or if those truly are of him. So I feel it’s best hinting sex unless there’s flirting or suggest to lead that way.

[guesswhoseback]

@brennanhuff I agree. Just a mild hint or two but do not go into details. So easy to screw it up (no pun intended).

But it’s amazing how many women out there think straight guys are okay with just being friends.

[wallyworld12]

I get it.. you want mystery. You want a build up. The way generally people do it.. or at least I do it is by telling sexual stories from another person's point of view, some innuendo or misinterpretation. If they play along great! If not no sweat. It takes the pressure off if you tell a story and gauge their reaction. if you want to see it in action, look at the genius talkshow host Craig Furguson on Youtube. Much entertainment there. Have a good time and enjoy each others company a little bit ya know.

[brennanhuff]

@wallyworld12 I’ve seen those clips. The women are flirty with him to start off so he gets that green light to start off. Don’t forget the interviews on late night shows are often in practiced and rehearsed by the host and actress before the show airs too. Ferguson is good and does well flirting I just don’t think he’s really that funny or witty. I think Ryan Reynolds would be much better as a host and flirting because I think he was a quicker wit and more expressive than Ferguson. Reynolds is married so he obviously isn’t flirting with women I don’t think

[wallyworld12]

Eh I'm sure a lot of it is planned. A lot of it is not. He is good at improvising. It may be planned, but there are things that he does that people can take away and do to help generally be more fun. People give him the green light because they have seen his show and it is expected. He takes them down rabbit holes that generally are associated with good humor fun. If you want to see some tips in general of what he does... Here is a link that disects it... Of course there are timestamps so you can skip ahead. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8NalcOPBXvs&t=613s

Ryan Reynolds is charasmatic too in his own way. I agree. He has good humor and is a good actor.

[brennanhuff]

@wallyworld12 I think Ryan Reynolds “game” Is stronger because he has a witty but goofball side to him. Ferguson is mostly flirting and some humor so I’m not that impressed by him. Reynolds is more versatile or like attract women in more ways. Like a Swiss Army knife. Wit, charisma, charm, funny, but also more expressively outgoing than Ferguson, and if done in right. Being a goofball can be lovable to women if a guy is actually smart and ironically mature. If done wrong a dude can come off as a doofus but done right just another element. I have a wit combined with goofball and it works for me. I get away with some cocky ness or ball busting I probably wouldn’t otherwise lol.

[brennanhuff]

“How do you know it’s true?” Because I heard it on the internet. Nothing like dudes bringing up the women they’ve been with on the internet. First how many of those women were actually really pretty? Plus shouldn’t you be getting with more than half of sex with those dates too. You sound like a pick up artists with your advice. This advice is dumb as guys are being fake trying to be a little cocky.

It can easily get annoying for women and many guys it won’t work for. You have to be genuine and have the personality or else it won’t work. A guy has to have to natural charm for it. He has to be naturally funny, witty, playful and very likeable for a little cocky to work. It’s not a one size fits all for guys. A guy has to go with his natural personality or else it won’t work. If you’re naturally charming and witty you don’t have to focus on conveying her personality with something. If she’s worth it, she will with playful banter you bring naturally because you’re a playful witty person. I don’t do this Crap because I already am playful and charming.

[brennanhuff]

Getting a girls number you meet in person or texting. The sex innuendo can work or done well if that situation. If taking to a girl on a dating app whose never seen you in person. Talking sex would not be advised even in the slight implied way. It can easily turn a girl off because women are more on guard of dudes being fuck boys for online dating as it is or creeps. If the convo goes great and playful talk or flirting then sure. But I wouldn’t suggest that

[iFarted]

While everyone's different and like different things when first getting to know someone I do agree on a lot of your points.

Be nice, but not to the point where you're faking it just to agree. If you're just agreeing with every single thing they'll know you're lying. Definitely, don't be a pushover.
The cockiness is a tough one, some girls do like it and see it as a guy is confident but it can also be an instant turn off when they feel that it's turning into arrogance and that you're conceited. Gotta try and find that happy medium of confidence without being cocky or overly cocky.

It's a hit or a miss with me when it comes to, "I see you have a tattoo/nose ring... does this mean you are a badass or a sweet heart?" type of conversations. A girl can interpret that in a positive manner or negative. It's happened to me in the past, when it's negative they assume I'm making fun of or bringing them down. (That happens when I think they're insecure about it).

I'm pretty shitty when it comes to bringing up sex rofl. I always come off too strong or I don't bring it up at all. I usually don't on a first date if I haven't talked to her much prior to the date.

Depending on the girl deep conversations can be tough.. Some people just don't bring much to the conversations and at times I end up feeling like I'm interviewing her. These are the worst when it doesn't bounce back and forth.

Overall good write up!

[Kiss_Me]

Good effective post. I do feel it's important to emphasize a guy's motivation for doing this. Granted, the goal is to meet and get dates with women. However, a nefarious guy could use this as a tool to "pick up" women for sex.
I see it this way... Being a "natural" with women is awesome. Most guys are not. By learning from those that are is not a bad thing. They get better.
Let's say you have a guy that was a bad kisser, so he read a book on kissing. Now the girls he kisses melt in his arms, brag about him to their friends, has erotic dreams about him, records his kissing in their diaries, etc. Do you think they REALLY care he learned how to kiss from a book?

[brennanhuff]

Isn’t it fake tho? Not everybody is funny or witty. You have to be very naturally funny or witty to do the slight cocky thing. It works for me because I don’t try to be. It just happens and based on how convo goes. I don’t make mental notes on “ok I got to say something cocky to this girl at some point” I just let things be And free my mind. It just happens on its own

[Kiss_Me]

@brennanhuff Congratulations. You are doing it right. Doing things like gently poking fun at her, flippin' the script, and saying cocky things in an exaggerated way are all basic flirting techniques. Mastering them is not such a bad thing.

[brennanhuff]

Thanks but like I don’t do that as a conscious effort to attract a girl. It’s naturally part of my natural playful personality. Which is why it works for me because I’m not trying to do or act a way. Telling guys to do that which many might not be naturally playful or outgoing might come off as forced or not genuine and often be obnoxious to people. You know how actors can play a role and act a character but even though doing it or saying the same way, a role just doesn’t come off right? Whereas some it’s just perfect because of their personality but they say the same thing? I see that with some dudes, they’ll say something slightly cocky but it’s funny or charming but another dude who might be somewhat funny says something similar but it’s not nearly as great as he thinks it was. There’s a lot intangibles for that stuff, facial expression, just a feel for situation and just a natural timing and delivery. Some just have that naturally.

[Barbaric]

100%. This was pretty much the same way I'd do it.

As you say also, when you're naturally the "nice guy" it's best to move more towards being more sexual, more cocky, more bold.

One girl said that this is standard, that it's not asshole behaviour at all (I agree), and really that's true for more confident guys. But as you can see some women say that it is, and "nice guys" take notice of everything women say, so it's not standard for them. They're too cautious, too afraid to "rock the boat", and that's their biggest problem.

[Citizenkirk]

Sorry, but you failed in your attempts to make me hate you. You're just going to have to accept the fact that you have a new follower now, a new disciple of your teachings. In any event I learned to feel incredible things myself from giving a lady a massage, and if it were primarily for my benefits of transportation I would bow to the master and acknowledge you as such.
Ironically my incentives for doing these things for these women were my need to bring relief and pleasure too female aquantances who were bummed out and in a swamp from disrespectful treatment by male jerks whose actions make me ashamed to call myself male. I like the things that what I lacked in technique, I made up for in friendship. I suppose if I had your meal prowess that it would get in the way of me being a decent sensitive guy because my ego would be too big for my own good. I respect your ability to be as humble as you are despite your male charisma with the ladies.

[Browneye57]

Excellent.
Well, they SURE do like to talk about THEMSELVES, don't they?

Guys need 3 things to get the ladies...
1. Looks
2. Money
3. Confidence. Irrational confidence.

You can get by with any two, but having all three is key. Obviosly you have #3 - you can NEVER be afraid or apprehensive about any woman. Period.
#1 means you need to hit the gym - the ladies like a man with some muscle. And you can get help with the wardrobe. How many good looking women do you see with so-so guys, so he's either rich or he's got a big dick, or both.
And no woman worth her salt is gonna go for a dead-broke guy. Period.

A guy with these and some game can get all the pussy he wants. You have to practically beat them off with a stick. LOL

[Browneye57]

@ArianaBdere I really love fuck too tootsie. LOL

[Anonymous]

I think you've just been lucky. I don't think these "tips" (although may and probably will help some for sure), aren't the key. I personally think most women online are there for attention and nothing more. I've had some actually admit this. So it doesn't matter what you do if that's the case. For the most part, it's just a complete waste of time. What I've found is if the woman is actually looking and interested in you, you don't have to do much at all, the conversation just naturally seems to flow (assuming you don't say something really stupid to turn her off lol).

[Anonymous]

Some other points about this:

- try to match the message length she uses. If she uses one wordy responses you do the same.

- try to let some time elapse from your responses. If she takes 4 hours to respond then do NOT immediately respond. Wait an equal amount of time.

- try to tease her. Don’t be afraid to give a poke here and there. Don’t take her too seriously.

- if you message back and forth at least 5 times than ask for her number. This is the acid test. If she doesn’t give it you then she’s just an virtual attention whore. Sadly many women are content just with that.

- never send more than two un-responded messages. If she does respond wait at least 5 days until you send the next message. If she doesn’t respond to that your out. If you send 3 messages with no response you look needy/desperate. She will never get together with you at that point.

[19magic]

I was following this until the last point wait four days to reply back after two unanswered messages jeeze what if both those messages were while you were having a day out or at work and you replied to them at home after everything is sorted so there is no major distractions in your messages

[Opinion Owner]

@19magic from what I’ve seen if someone doesn’t get back to you in 24hr’s they INTENTIONALLY blew you off barring some exceptions.

When women say they are “too busy” 9 out of 10 times they really mean “You are low on my priority list”. Most of the time it’s bs.

If they really like the guy they will make efforts to get back.

[19magic]

24 hours is a long time I agree with that and what you said in your reply, if it's been a day you could possibly say something about that but little can be argued- what could possibly keep you busy for the whole day. Honestly, your rules are pretty similar to mine except if all the guy says is one word sentences then after a few times I just stop replying.

What I was wondering was, if you got messaged in the morning during a weekday, to not expect an immediate reply or during the afternoon while out, if I go shopping on the weekends I don't have WiFi or data on for 3-6 hours. If I go for a walk, again I don't tend to have my phone on for hours. I do however pretty much always check my phone in the evening and reply back then.

So say you were dating a girl like me, what would be your protocols then?

And say in the past any convo we shared is typically evenings/nights or during random times on weekends whenever we're both not busy?

[Opinion Owner]

@19magic you sound reasonable. If I texted a girl at 3 and she’s at work or busy then doesn’t get back to me until 8 or 9 that’s understandable.

But if I don’t hear back from her until 4 days later that’s starting to smell like bs. Usually she’s more into someone else and I’m her backup plan. Or she’s just very flaky which I don’t respect either.

Either way if a girl likes a guy she helps him. She won’t go AWOL or send him one wordy responses. She will give him her phone number after some convo on a dating app. She might be initially cautious but she will tried to arrange to meet up.

*The higher the girls interest level the fewer games they play”.

- Doc Love.

[19magic]

That's true and I'll say your pretty fair yourself, a day possibly but more than that very rarely

[Opinion Owner]

@19magic I sometimes think women intentionally test guys by blowing them off early in dating. They want to see how he reacts to it. Shit testing.

Not all women of course but a sizable percentage of them.

[19magic]

Yeah I've definitely known girls who would say they'd do that, one mentioned paying another, hot, girl to come on to him to see what he would do either while texting or after a couple of drinks.

Personally though the only thing I can think of is to test my future boyfriend with my little girl. Or go to a restaurant/pub for a meal and see how he treats staff, if he's not polite to them, then would he really be that great with me and my family.

Money, other women, playing hard to get, acting uninterested, having specific time lines for progression into a relationship is just stupid I think.

[Opinion Owner]

@19magic they end up self sabotaging a potentially good thing. This does have cumulative impacts on men’s attitudes towards women. Just don’t do it. But your tests above are fair. I too get very turned off if she’s rude to servers or workers in general. I once was on a date with a girl and she just went ballistic arguing with a parking attendant. Huge turnoff. I didn’t follow up anymore

[anexi]

Can you clarify your "acid test" please? Message back and forth at least 5 times as in sending 5 messages, or having 5 solid conversations?

[Opinion Owner]

@anexi the acid test to me is if the girl gives me her direct number (Snapchat of Instagram isn’t good enough.). She is open to meeting up and going out on a date.

If she’s single then absolutely no other bs excuse I’d acceptable for not giving out her number. If she doesn’t want to give it out then she’s not interested in meeting him. Period.

I don’t ask women for their number right away. But if we match on a dating app (or meet in real life) and have a conversation then I usually will at the end. If she doesn’t give out then she is nothing but a huge. waste of time.

[anexi]

Unless she wants to make sure that you can hold more than one conversation. Or wants to wait in order to see if you give off any red flags in the first few interactions. It's actually discouraged for women to give out their phone number at the end of just one conversation, due to safety. And if you don't believe me, then go read Tinder's safety tips page. A HOOKUP app discourages giving out numbers until a person is absolutely sure they are comfortable with it. So I'm pretty sure your expectations are too high and probably creepy if you absolutely expect a girl's number by the end of the first conversation.

[Opinion Owner]

@anexi no not necessarily after one conversation. But if I feel the conversation has chemistry I’ll go for the close. I have had plenty just waste my time because all they want is virtual attention.

Also you can setup a Skype number or something else to keep things safe if you want. I’m definitely not the type that sends unsolicited D pics (I hate guys who do that).

But I don’t go on dating apps to have virtual chat or to “make friends”. I got on them for that they are intended for: going on a date. That doesn’t mean I’m always looking for a hookup but there has to be romantic interest somewhere.

[ChrisG30]

This all comes down to one thing. Women like men who are difficult, hard to obtain because they like the reward when they still win this guy over. What is more of a better reward than receiving validation from the guy who didn't care about you but now in the future cares about you.

Being mean, asking women what they bring to the table (qualifying), being hard to get, showing you have options with other women implies the man is in control and has choice over his women. Women like to be chosen. That's why they are addicted to this guy.

[ChrisG30]

Lol at the female haters of my post. You hate it because it's TRUE.

[Anonymous]

Ahh so it sounds like you don't get hit with

"lol", "idkkkkk", "yeah kinda I guess"

very often when asking girls

"I see you have a tattoo/nose ring... does this mean you are a badass or a sweet heart?" "What does a perfect day look like?" "What is it you want most in your life?"

Ahh the joys of girls who have some self awareness, makes conversation so much better. Def better on my back from having to carry it while trying to find some magical set of words to get her to respond with more than 3 words of "entertain me please"

[HedwigInABox]

I actually agree with this. A lot of men think as soon as they got a women to answer a slightly sexual question, they unlocked the door to sexting. But that's not the case. At least not if the women want's something serious. Yes it's nice to be sexually desired and to know that the guy your texting is into you but if they give off the vibe that this is all they care about it's over for me.

[brennanhuff]

This seems fake tho. Only if a guy has natural charm, is like able, witty, and funny does a little cocky work. I’ve seen guys try that abc they sound obnoxious and full of themselves. I do a little cocky sometimes and it works because I have a playful personality and I got wit and humor. More importantly the people who know or talk to me is I’m a goof ball too. So I can tease or even when I’m cocky it’s like absurd or stupid that I don't know I get away with stuff and just I come off lovable for it lol. Maybe it’s being funny I don't know. But people still can’t over do it

[HedwigInABox]

@brennanhuff I agree. there is definetly a limit

[brennanhuff]

I don't know if women who are open to something not serious will like it either as I think women who want sex still want a connection first and that dude isn’t a dbag. If she feels he’s all about sex she still might not finding a fuck boy so hot

[brennanhuff]

Yeah and I think naturally funny, charming, witty guys and perhaps who are good looking have a much wider margin for it than guys not natural in those ways.

[micheal727jovanie]

I remember this Asian girl literally texted I want to suck your dick. Just by me being an asshole.

[Apope16]

THat can happen. In that situation you have to be a nice guy though. keep her guessing. switch back and forth. If she says that you should either a) start sexting or b) thank her and make some sweet and kind joke. LIke "You're sexy and smart aren't you".

[micheal727jovanie]

Great my take by the way. Its easier when adding sexual inudos.

[brennanhuff]

Did she “5 dolla!” When you met her?

[brennanhuff]

Did she say “5 dolla!” When you met her and asked how much? I fucking hate how you can’t edit posts on here

[micheal727jovanie]

@brennanhuff thats racist. NO she didn't "5 dolla" me. But she did love me long time and called me daddy.

[brennanhuff]

I love you long time lol. Long times, are good times...😎

[Truthatanycost]

I innocently offered a girl a chewing gum and got a similar response.

[brennanhuff]

@Truthatanycost From my culture, offering chewing gum is scandalous and never innocent. Must've been amazing chewing gum too...

[wallyworld12]

Sharing that wisdom with the bros and the um women lol. Good advice overall.. critics rave ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ ! Studies show that masturbation and sex help with white blood cell counts and makes your skin shiny... If she wild it can drain the life outta you.. but that never felt so good. Sex is like pizza when it's good it's good and when it's bad it's pretty good too. Appreciate the advice as all is welcome.. ladies and gentlemen.. have a damn good time! :)

[Anonymous]

Yea I have a guy who does same with me... but it actually pisses me off because it makes me feel how insecure he is about being his natural self, and now I'm questioning his morals and reliability for a long term relationship even tho he's been trying to propose for engagement (I always change the subject because his ways scare me and make me unsure about him)
My point is just don't do this if you want a long term

[zeitgeist057]

And yet it sounds like he must be doing something right because you’re still hooked on him and even thinking about him when you are answering questions on GaG

[Opinion Owner]

@zeitgeist057 sure. I do like him and would like to have a long term with him, I'm just not sure of his ways bc he seems a bit manipulative to me.. or maybe his intentions are good.. I can't be sure if he's husband meterial y'know. Do you have an advice that can help?

[zeitgeist057]

If he is “ insecure about being his natural self“, then you may need to do a bit of work boosting his security level by accepting him and rewarding him whenever he does show you his natural self. Conversely, you can try to work on the challenging behavior that he exhibits as well, when he’s not being real or genuine with you and manipulative, it’s up to you to figure out how you want to extinguish that behavior.

Sometimes blokes think they’re real clever, and the girls aren’t onto them and their tricks. But it’s difficult for the girl to call him out without creating a fight about it so my advice there would be gentle; give lots of positive praise and reward for the behavior you want, and just a little bit of feedback or even just withhold praise/reward for challenging behavior. Depending on your communication levels, relationship dynamic, and intimacy, you could even make a game out of it.

[Shocker650]

Oh yea? And what are you doing for a man outside of spreading your legs?

[Opinion Owner]

@zeitgeist057 well said.

[Opinion Owner]

@Shocker650 not much really lol. He usually complains that I'm unresponsive when he talks about himself, which in turn is true bc I got intimatcy issues too lol, and that all I do is talk and he always listens.. Sounds a bit unfair to me lol

[Shocker650]

If you don't give him much you should't expect much from him either. I guess man are expected to give more but receive less anyway which is pretty sad.

[Anonymous]

This is for like twenty-something girls, they like mystery. But women in their thirties+ like CERTAINTY, so it's highly possible you'll get ghosted if she wonders if you're an asshole. And mature women can see right through any type of game or manipulation, these "steps" are just too childish. They want an authentic man who is 100% being himself and 100% serious about them. They don't need a man to pull some bs moves to "attract" them, they are perfectly capable of being attracted by themselves.

[Bethmelan123]

Step 3 is a red flag for me.
Why be in such a rush? I mean there are lots of things to talk about. Hobbies, food, clothings, careers etc. I like the sweet guy.
I would definitely find you creepy😬

[SomeBlondeChick]

#3 to me is obvious he's just looking for an easy screw. Not worth my time after that.

[MecheD]

This is a well thought out post and very informative about too those having a hard time. I commend you my guy. Keep it up !!!

[cth96190]

Women want Christian Grey, no matter what they say.

[BroWhyIsEveryName]

Ahhhhhhh

[proNutro]

This post made me cringe and couldn’t be further from the truth or at least for me that is which ultimately made this post boring to say the least.

[Apope16]

Thats what they ALL SAY. Search your memory. The example of Mr. Nice guy is they boy you put in friend zone. 🤣

[proNutro]

Actually no hun... I’m sorry to say but you don’t know it all when it comes to what all women want. Every nice guy I’ve always given a chance no matter what. I’m currently with a mr nice guy that has never treated me badly nor have I ever treated him badly.

My first ever boyfriend was a “mr. nice guy” one that wasn’t popular, was actually a nerd, extremely smart, played chess as a hobby as well as fixing computers. He was extremely nice. Would message me sweet messages in the morning and night. Everyone said he was a weird guy and I should leave him but I didn’t. Then split up when we moved.
Dated another guy that was also this “mr. nice guy” who I was actually friends with for a while and still are friends. Before even dating everyone said we were because of how well we got along. He’d pay for everything on our dates without me even knowing until it came to leave and we were meant to pay which isn’t even important but the kindness was sweet. We fought a lot but we had just as many good moments.
The next guy I dated I was in love with who was also a nice guy but then after moving he cheated. That ended and now I’m with a nice guy and have been for the past year. He’s soft hearted, soft spoken, loves his cat to death, he’s many times asked to go for long walks with me, he’d rather stay at home and play countless rounds of chess... he rests me well to try get to know me snd grow more together. He’s the definition of a nice guy.

So yes this post makes me cringe and couldn’t be further from the truth, for me at least.