People rate potential partners by their physical attributes, and I cannot understand it

[Nice_Guy_Last]

The definitions of beauty, we are told by instinct and society that these are the most worthy people to date merely because of their outward appearance. I challenge the validity of this view because it doesn't take into account more important aspects within a relationship.

Now, I should preface this by saying that I understand the evolutionary purpose of physique preference. I think, however, that it is a rudimentary and archaic way of looking at love, which is far more complex than the curves of a woman or the chisel of a man.

A person who makes you smile, who has similar interests, who has similar life goals, who is fun, these are the only things that are really important. As much as we hate to admit it, beauty is temporary. A beautiful-looking person who is ugly on the inside will one day be ugly on the outside as well, but a person with a beautiful personality will have that beautiful personality beyond the youthfulness of their body.

Sometimes, I read takes, questions, and opinions that deal only with the physical aspect. The level of sophistication never delves beyond: he/she is hot, I like hot people, I'd have sex with him/her, etc. It seems that the sexual nature is the most important part of the discussion. What people seem to forget, however, is that sex encompasses a tremendously tiny fraction of a relationship.

There are so many more things that happen besides sex within a relationship. To say that beauty is even relevant in conversation, shared goals and ambitions, or spending time with your partner is ludicrous and a baseless viewpoint to take on a relationship.

I hope that people can realize, like I do, that people were made for each other not because of their sexual attractiveness, but their compatability. Maybe then there'd be less marriages that end in divorce, maybe then there'd be less cases of objectivity and celebrity idolism.

[ManaX]

Think of it this way, there is a cake made of personality and character, the higher it's stacked the better a person they are.
The number of cherries on top of that cake is how attractive they are. It's not necessary for a cake to have cherries but damn they taste good.
It's that compromise between a high stacked a cake and as many cherries as you can get.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I suppose, I just feel that people look too intently at the cherries and miss the fact the cake is rotten.

[Bluemax]

"A person who makes you smile, who has similar interests, who has similar life goals, who is fun, these are the only things that are really important"
No, they most certainly are not "the only things that are really important." I know plenty of people who make me smile, have similar interests and goals, who are fun, and yet I wouldn't have any sort of intimacy with them in 10 trillion lifetimes. They are called friends. Speaking as one who was married very happily for 14 years, SEX IS IMPORTANT. Being sexually attracted to your partner is CRUCIAL in that arena. One GAGer aptly described sex with someone she wasn't attracted to as being like rape. Having been in a relationship before I was married with someone I didn't find attractive, I can see where she's coming from. Being physically sexually attracted to someone is indeed very important. My parents were happily married for 51 years. My mother and father were VERY physically attracted to one another. Did their looks fade? Of course! However, both of them admitted that the initial attraction and MEMORY of that attraction was vital to them, even when they were old.

"What people seem to forget, however, is that sex encompasses a tremendously tiny fraction of a relationship. "
If by "tremendously tiny fraction" you mean time-wise, then I agree. If by that you mean importance-wise, then you are fantastically mistaken. Ask a divorce lawyer. No divorce lawyer has ever heard, "The sex is awesome, but I want a divorce." Many divorce lawyers have heard, "Everything is awesome, but the sex sucks. I want a divorce." Does the sex life fade with age? You bet it does. But it's absolutely vital to have had it in the first place, and people generally do NOT enjoy sex with people they are not physically attracted to. Period.

[Bluemax]

"I hope that people can realize, like I do, that people were made for each other not because of their sexual attractiveness, but their compatability."
And I hope people realize, as it seems you don't, that the best couples are ones who are both physically attracted to one another, and emotionally compatible. To tell them otherwise is not doing anyone any service.

[muspelhem_5]

This is a genius comment. So knowledgeable. Kudos. This should be MHO.

[Rainie_]

Preachh! 👏👏👏

[becca123]

Clap clap clap! Well done.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

Have you ever been unwanted? Have you ever been shut down because of looks? Have you watched people you know and care for live in abusive relationships purely because their partner is attractive? Have you gone through life alone because you are what society deems as "ugly"

It's lonely. It's cold. You realize that all anyone cares about is sex. I don't want sex at this point. I just want someone, a warm body I can share my bed with at night. I want a companion through life.
That is more than just a friend can give me. I want a person who tells me they love me. So when you say that relationships can only survive because of good sex, and good sex only comes from two people who they are attracted to physically, you are sentencing me, like the rest of society, to a life of loneliness and misery.

[Bluemax]

@Take Owner
I have indeed been unwanted, shut down because of my looks, and watched people go through abusive relationships because they were physically attracted to the partner. No, I haven't gone through life being what society deems ugly. However, I have been raised with a brother with cerebral palsy. As a result of that, I have known a great many people who have gone their lives (and their lives are more than twice the length of yours) being alone and unwanted and I am very sad for them. My friend since high school who was born with FAS, again more than twice your age, is a virgin and likely to die so. I've held him while he's wept in anguish. I've wept with him. A friend of mine is older than I am and she has been without the loving touch of a man for as long as you have been alive. I've had to talk to her about her being suicidal. I am acquainted with her sadness and her anguish.

[Bluemax]

My brother's friend was born with osteogenesis imperfecta which rendered her quite disfigured. She never knew the loving touch of a man and she died in her 50s. My brother cried because she was lonely, and it made me cry, too. And as I said, many of my brother's friends had disfigurements and they died lonely. I am sad for them and I am sympathetic for their plight. If there was anything I could do, I would do it.

My female friend which I spoke of, the one who has recently talked about suicide, was originally introduced to me before I was married in the hopes of us hitting it off. She's a wonderful woman. She's brilliant. She's a fantastic teacher. She's clever. She has a love of the natural world. And yet I am incapable of feeling more for her than friendship. Don't you think if I could I would choose to fall in love with someone brilliant, clever, witty, and in love with the natural world? Of course I would. BUT I CAN'T (and please note the difference between "can't and "won't")

[Bluemax]

But the one thing these anguished lonely people understand that you seem to have missed (granted, you are rather young) is that it's NOBODY'S FAULT. Not society's. Not any one individual's. No one. You seem to think that it's society's fault or the individual's fault. I hope you come to realize that it isn't. It is the fault of evolution and circumstance that these people are lonely. And I feel for them. I really really do. If I could press a button and make all of humanity change so that we would be attracted to people based solely on compatibility and character, I would. But I can't, and neither can you, not with a magic button or this essay.

Now, that being said I understand you are in pain and I do indeed feel for you, my good man. However, there is good news to consider. I have noticed quite a few women believe they are unattractive WHO ARE NOT. They are doing something else wrong that has little or nothing to do with their appearance which is causing men to be turned off.

[Bluemax]

I can only assume this is probably equally true for men. Furthermore, I have noticed that most people who are physically unattractive CAN CHANGE THAT. Most things that make a person attractive are within our control. You'll find an interesting article on that here:
www.psychologytoday.com/.../being-beautiful-or-handsome-is-easier-you-think

I would say that the number of people who are truly unattractive (as opposed to those who merely think they are) and can do nothing about it (as is the case with my brother's friends and my friend with FAS) are a very small percentage. Less than 10% I'd say. Therefore, if you feel that you're unattractiveness is dooming you to a life of loneliness, I would say there's about a 90% chance you're wrong. If you are physically unattractive and you don't just think you are, then there's a very good chance you can do something about that. Considering what's at stake, isn't it worth a try

You can message me if you like. I promise to do my best and be respectful.

[Bluemax]

@muspelhem_5
@Rainie_
@becca123

I thank you.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I hardly know them, but I am moved by these people. A harsh world condemned them to loneliness. Why? Because of appearances they had no choice about. Do you not see the inhumanity in judging people by their outward appearance

If but one person in the entire world was judged by an appearance they had no choice to have, then judging by appearance is wrong. Every life matters, and every person ought to be able to find happiness, especially if they are a good person on the inside.
All I want is to stop the pain. I want people to stop being outcast for their physical appearances and start being loved for who they are on the inside. Is that so horrible you have to make 3 paragraphs on why it's wrong?

[Bluemax]

@Nice_Guy_Last
Of course I see the cruelty that my friends and my brother's friends suffer. However, you seem to put the blame on society. I don't. I put the blame on circumstance and evolution. Just like they had no choice in being physically attractive, the fact that people aren't attracted to them IS ALSO NOT A CHOICE. No one makes a choice over who they are physically attracted to. And physical attraction is NOT a judgment on that person's worth as a human being, nor is it a judgment on their character. Don't conflate the two. They are very different.

I get that you want for their happiness, as do I. I also understand you would like to see them included in society, as do I. However, you can't force people to be physically attracted to them, and physical attraction DOES matter to the overwhelming majority of humanity.

[Bluemax]

Of course there's nothing horrible about your wanting them to find happiness and inclusion. I never said there was anything horrible about it. Indeed I find it a wonderful thing. However, you're going about it in a profoundly wrong way, and that's why I'm verbose about it.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

It is obvious that there is a major fundamental difference between me and other people, because I could care less about sex. I mean, don't get me wrong, it feels great, but when I am in a relationship, I don't care if I get it or not.
Maybe... maybe I am asexual. I like sex, but it isn't a goal. Would you agree?

[Bluemax]

That would be a distinct possibility.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

Just remembered something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrp0zJZu0a4\
This video explains how beauty, in women, has changed over the past 3000+ years. Note that the body types change from era to era, even if the nationality of people who uphold the perception doesn't change (see the differences between 1920s America and the America of today). These shifts in what the definition of beauty is show that it is more than evolution: society tells us what is attractive and what is not. I will concede that physical attraction matters to people, but to what they are attracted to is based on what society tells them to. It's society's fault that we are obsessed with the current sexual preferences. It's our fault that we let society dictate who we deem physically worthy of us, but it's society's fault nonetheless that those it deems ugly remain alone.

[Bluemax]

Respectfully, all that video shows is a bunch of women who the makers of the video believe to be the ideal beauty for certain time periods and cultures. It doesn't explain at all how they arrived at these conclusions. I'm going to assume they arrived at these conclusions based on how many others arrived at it; by culling paintings, photographs, sculptures, and other works of art from various times and cultures.

Now, they may very well be correct. However, I'll direct your attention to a study done by Devendra Singe and Robert Young. You can read the full study here:
web.missouri.edu/~rouderj/3010/readings/Singh.pdf

Or a summary of it here:
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6247625.stm

They point out that just because someone painted, photographed, or sculpted a person doesn't mean that person is the ideal of attractiveness. In Medieval, Renaissance, and Baroque times, many paintings of Venus or Aphrodite or Bathsheba or other legendary pin-up girls were commissioned by rich people, who then had their wives or lovers pose for them...

[Bluemax]

These rich people were often (comparatively) overweight, and they flaunted this as a sign of wealth. Simply because Rubens painted a lot of Rubenesque women doesn't mean that Rubenesque was therefore the ideal to the majority of the world. Singe's and Young's study culled literature throughout several thousand years from Asia, Europe , the Middle East, and North Africa. They considered that what people actually SAY about ideal beauty is a more reliable than what people paint, sculpt, and photograph. They found that virtually every reference to a beautiful female body for several thousand years and several hundred cultures is a reference to a body with the golden ratio (waist/bosom of 1:1.6).

Furthermore, I recall hearing on NPR (I think it was RadioLab) about a study done about human beauty. They said that whereas beauty is somewhat subjective (and men tend to agree more than women do on what is a beautiful face), alas, unattractiveness is much more objective than most people think.

[Bluemax]

That is to say that people have disagreements over what is beautiful, but there is widespread agreement on what is unattractive, evidenced by the fact that certain disfigurements are considered universally unattractive, regardless of time and culture. Witness how hunchbacks, lepers, and burn victims elicit rather frightened reactions from infants, who haven't had much time to soak up cultural norms.

I have more to say, but it's too nice an evening to stay cooped up in my office. We'll talk again, I'm sure.

[RationalLioness]

"The definitions of beauty, we are told by instinct and society that these are the most worthy people to date merely because of their outward appearance. "

No clue where this came from and I don't believe it to be true at all. What I think society says about those people is that they are very attractive. Some people may even go further and say that it's a degradation to people's self-esteem because those people tend to be plastered everywhere while average folk are rarely seen.

"What people seem to forget, however, is that sex encompasses a tremendously tiny fraction of a relationship."

That may be true for YOUR relationships. For other people's, it's not. Sex is one of the many ways that some people show their love/adoration/compassion for the other person. Or some people just REALLY love it to the point that it's a dealbreaker if they don't get it.

I personally think that most people with average to high sex drives want someone they're physically attracted to as well as compatible. The questions that you see on here may simply be for fun or lack the mention of a preferable personality because it's generally recognized (though unstated) that the majority would want someone who is compatible with them. The question is simply gauging WHAT that person is attracted to.

So... I don't agree. This Take sounds like one that promotes giving unattractive--though not necessarily ugly--wo/men a chance when it could have very negative effects on the relationship and the persons involved.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

So you are saying because a person is less beautiful they should not be in a happy relationship? A little harsh to judge someone based on a set of appearances, half of which they were born with and had no choice in the matter.

[RationalLioness]

1) A lot of you guys on GaG seem to have a HARD time comprehending what is clearly before you instead of making assumptions.

I did not say that an unattractive person shouldn't be in a happy relationship. Nowhere did I allude to that. I simply said that if someone was NOT attracted to them and sex is important to them, that that relationship can have VERY NEGATIVE outcomes. This is why I think people should get with those who find each other attractive as well as are compatible.

Unattractive people (subjective) will get chances by people they think are hot/sexy/cute and those people don't care how they unattractive people look physically. I've seen it happen.

2) I don't want to fuck an ugly guy just like a dude who finds me to be ugly doesn't want to fuck me. I'm not going to force myself to be in a relationship with someone I'm not attracted to so that the OTHER person will be happy while I'm miserable. I've been there---not doing that again.

[Bluemax]

Well written, RationalLioness.

You were with someone you weren't attracted to? I did that myself. Never again.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I guess physical appearance just doesn't matter to me. If they are kind, fun, and love me, that's all I need I guess.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

What if a person found you ugly because of your skin color? How is that any different that a person finding you ugly because of an asymmetrical face, or any other physical characteristic? To me, there is no difference.
We are all born with a set physical characteristics. If you are allowed to say, "If he only got a nose job, then I could truly love him," then how do you have the moral high ground when someone would say, "If only they would change the color of their skin, like Michael Jackson did, then I could love them"?

[Mycsph]

We want someone who makes us smile, who has similar interests, who has similar life goals, who is fun. Yeah while these are all true let's face it, at some point LOOKS MATTERS. I'm not saying that it is everything we look for a potential partner but it plays an essential role when considering someone. Why do you approach and ask someone out? How do you single out men/women who could be potential partners say for example you still haven't known that person? Isn't that you go for someone whom you've physically attracted to?

At least we have to be physically attracted to someone to make us want to know them better. It could be that persons eyes, smile, skin, body, etc. Something that wow us, something that pull us to them, and something that makes us want to dig deeper and be more involved.

What makes us differentiate someone who could be a good friend, from a good sex buddy, from someone who could be a good partner? There is where compatibility enter :)

Don't get me wrong, I get your point and I totally agree with some of it but these ate just points to ponder for people who say that they don't care about the looks. All in all, looks somehow matter. :)

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I guess this take was less for people who understand that personality matters too and more for people who overvalue looks. Thanks for your point of view.

[LittleSally]

Yes... all too true.

The thing is > society has brainwashed almost all of us into thinking that what matters most is appearence and IF you've got that then we can talk about personality...
Society states that personality comes first and looks come second, but looks are what you notice first and only if you like that then you can search for the personality that intrigues you packaged in what you feel is attractive to you.

It just is what it is.

Sad.
I agree.

Doesn't make it any less true.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

looks do matter because physical attraction is actually a part of love. not to be shallow here but how could you love someone when you hate the way they look? a large nose or something can be overlooked. i've liked people with imperfections like that before. once you like them you just overlook it. its like its not even there. it is possible for someone to be beautiful both inside and out. this topic often makes people think that good looking people are assholes. personality and looks both matter. one shouldn't be chosen over the other.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

So if both personality and looks are necessary in love, how do blind people love to their fullest extent?

[Bonnie12I27I12]

hmm thats a great question actually! there are many things that make up love. i think its 7 but im not really sure. anyway i guess for those of us who can see its a?/7 sort of thing but for them its?/6. do you get what i mean?

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I guess my point is that if looks don't matter to one group of people, why should they matter to us? I personally would date anyone regardless of how they look on the exterior, because it just doesn't matter to me. Because I feel this way, I believe that the world would be a better place if, in general, relationships, be they filial, platonic, or romantic, if people would stop judging others based on their outward appearance, and only cared about what kind of person they are on the inside.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

so you're saying that you would date someone who you think is possibly the ugliest person you've ever seen?

[Nice_Guy_Last]

If they are a good person on the inside, and they are willing to date me and accept me for who I am. The only thing that I would be wary of in terms of their body is their healthiness, as I would rather not be a widower at a young age.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I equate judging a person on their physical appearance with judging a person on the color of their skin. A person can have plastic surgery to change the color of their skin, like Michael Jackson did, just the same way a person can have plastic surgery to change an imperfection or a disfiguration. Using the logic that people would have to get a nose job or liposuction for a person to truly love them, you would have instances where people would not be able to love a person until they changed their skin color.
A great man once said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." I am a man who believes that this belief that man should not be judged by the color of their skin should be extended to their entire appearance.
If their appearance be a result of personal choices, then that is the content of their character that comes into question.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

to me you can't really compare race to how attractive a person is. different people are attracted to each other. i would prefer someone who i find both attractive and suitable for me

[Nice_Guy_Last]

How is that not a good comparison? Race is merely a standardized way of defining physical characteristics. So are the terms "ugly" and "beautiful". You wouldn't dislike a person based on the outward appearance that is attributed to their race, so why do it to people who fall in the definition of "ugly"?
I know it's hard to accept a change in views, but this culture of objectification has got to end, and this is the core belief that allows it to thrive. When a man objectifies a woman's body, or vice versa, he is judging her for her outward appearance. If you want this to truly end, to see womanizing truly end, this belief that looks should matter is the belief that needs to die.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

i appreciate your take and your opinion but you have absolutely no right to tell me that i'm wrong or that i need to change. it's a personal preference. just because i dont agree with you that doesn't mean that i am wrong. my opinion isn't hurting anyone so i really dont have to change it.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

When enough people believes in what you do, as society does now, people do hurt. Because people die alone because they are "too ugly" to find a person to love them. I am not condemning you, I am condemning the idea. I want you to see that there are people who hurt because an overwhelming number of people believe that looks are necessary. They are bullied for their lack of good looks, and lead lonely, miserable lives. I am not saying that it's your fault, I am saying that it's the idea, which appears in more minds than just yours. The only way to get rid of an idea that hurts people is to show the people that believe in it why it is hurtful.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

you can't force people to like something that they dont. i've been charmed by some people who werent the best looking. you have to consider the fact that no matter how you look at least one person will find you attractive. lets say you have a black male and a blond white male. i myself am into white guys but that doesn't mean the black guy will be alone. dont think that im using race as a preference. its just an example. i'll like the white guy while my friend on the other hand doesn't like white guys but loves black guys will take him. again dont take it as something racist

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I guess I am just capable of loving people for who they are. I guess I will never be able to see how a person can judge another person for qualities they were born with, that they were often genetically predetermined to have. "I have a dream..." was said far too long ago...

[Bonnie12I27I12]

people have preferences and thats perfectly normal

[Nice_Guy_Last]

When preferences hurt people, they need to be changed and erased. It's how society gets better. When a person who is less than average in looks gets overlooked despite a heart of gold over and over again, it makes him or her bitter and lonesome. It ruins a good person for no reason other than the fact they were not desirable in the views of the many. Meanwhile, people with shit personalities who abuse their partners get the benefit of the doubt when they look good merely because they look good.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

that doesn't always happen. if someone has good looks sure they'll attract partners but they won't keep those partners. if i dont find someone attractive i won't date them. i want the whole package and that includes personality. you just dont understanding what im saying and you're just trying to be right instead of listening

[MrLi0n]

Very nice take but I think women rate on physical attributes in order to start an initial conversation or in terms of getting a date and a phone number... I believe once you've gotten that far then income, education, career, and welsh comes into play. Along with personality. I've said this before, I remember where the most dominate make was the one that was the strongest and in top top physical shape but those days are over! Dominance is measured in knowledge and income and beauty or popularity... Career and personality... Physical attribute days are over, their only an attention getter...

[mirahd]

I agree entirely which is one of the biggest perks to meeting people on social media. i understand that it is dangerous because you don't know who yo are talking to but the up-side is that there may not be pictures so you can really get to know someone. And in response to Bonnie12/27/12 if you really love someone you find things about them that are beautiful only to you. That crooked nose or lazy eye can become the unique part about that them that you love because in that lazy eye you see the personality underneath or in that crooked nose you see the that great sense of humor you adore. Even the most beautiful people have flaws if you look at them close enough. And love shouldn't have physical standards. But if that's how you want to play think about how many people would pass up on the greatness that is you because of that one flaw that you are painfully aware of

[Bonnie12I27I12]

lol thats exactly what i was trying to say. by attractive i dont mean "perfect" i mean something that i find attractive

[Mdiller45]

You make a fantastic point! I agree! It's what is on the inside that counts! You feeling start on the inside and should be triggered by looks. So many people are only looking for a good suit of skin and that's it. It's a shame. They'll only be in for a surprise and not a good one.

[muspelhem_5]

The fact of the matter is that lust, attraction and attachment all matter. Sure people place varying degrees of importance on the different components, but they all play a part, and if taken to the extreme, the glorification of personal compatibility is really just describing what could just as well be a friendship.

There is a reason it is called a romantic relationship.

[ccp16]

Personality and compatibility are of course most important. that being said, I want someone who sexually excites me as well! Sex is a big part of a relationship to me, and I want to be with someone I can't wait to have sex with all the time and who feels the same for me.

[YourFutureEx]

Exactly. I can't believe on myself that now I'm falling for girls for their inner beauty and I don't give that much preference on their looks. I used to consider it a bs but now I guess it's because of maturity. Now I realised what's longer lasting.

Good username too :)

[spuitkaas]

My dad is a divorce lawyer and he always notices 'if the sex is bad, relationship is over' and that really is true. We're living beings with sexual needs and you can deny it, but it is important.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I'd say that your dad notices the final symptom of a dying relationship, not necessarily the cause. By all rights, a person is less sexually attractive, or sexually energetic, when they are in their mid 60s than they are when they got married. But the relationship doesn't fall apart because the sex isn't as good. No, it's held together by common interests, by common goals, by that ever-present need for companionship.
It's blatantly obvious that the modern views of society are the reason that greater than 50% of marriages end in divorce. It's because we are told that sexual attraction is paramount to everything else. I'm not trying to be mean, but wouldn't it be a much better world if your dad's job wasn't needed?

[spuitkaas]

I wonder if people really have gotten more shallow or that marriage just isn't as necessary anymore as it used to be. Like, people used to marry also because they would split their income. Because women weren't able to have a real job, so they were dependant of their husband's income. If they divorced, not only was that a big disgrace for their family and religion, they also didn't have a stable household anymore.
So I think the divorces are not because people have gotten more shallow, but because women are more independent and people because less religious ofcourse so the pressure of marriage has gotten aeay.

[Bluemax]

I think divorce has probably become more prevalent due more in part to it becoming easier to divorce.

[doireallyneedone]

Just some old evolutionary wiring at work. We're still attracted to physical attributes because we believe they are supposed to help us raise and produce the best offspring. Doesn't really make sense, but its the way it is.

[Riggers]

In an Ideal happy go fucky lucky world yes, Looks dont matter as much as personality.

But, This is the real world, And looks are more important, Lets just fucking move on as a Society and accept that already -_-.

[Vinvei]

I wouldn't say they are in the 'real world'. They are crucial in the first impression, however it is the person's body language and how they behave that makes them the most attractive overall. In choosing a lifelong partner there are many things everybody looks for. If I met a hot guy but he was conceited, disrespected me, and wasn't a nice person, I wouldn't go for him.

[Noxifer626]

The "real world" can change. It has before, and it will again if necessary. We can't, as a society, simply "move on" from issues because they are hard to overcome.

[den1219]

we are still animals :/
In order to have good offsprings.. we select good mates, and we tend to that by physical attraction.
Deep down our hearts, we know this.,

[hypno-trip]

tis true

[Nice_Guy_Last]

But I challenge that point of view. A good body does not make for a good partner. We will have our sexual attraction, but to make that our end-all be-all in terms of selecting a partner, we will find that our relationships will be lacking.

[Lesbobutch818]

Fuck Beauty what about passion and the heart. I love your post.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

Does it speak volumes that the person who wrote this and the only person who has commented on this are LGBT? (I'm sorry if I am making a wrong assumption based on name!)

[Lesbobutch818]

😀 😀😀😀😀

[Lesbobutch818]

Yes, I am a lesbain.

[hypno-trip]

I want to work on my physical attractiveness by working out and grooming. Everyone cares about physical attractiveness. Maybe not to the same levels but at least to a certain degree...

[Bluemax]

You sir are on the right track.

[RunTheRares]

You can't expect someone to fall in love with someone else they don't find physically attractive at all. That's simply the human condition.

[Phoenix98]

Not me, while outer beauty does hold some importance, inner beauty and personality are of much greater impotence.

[zell0is0my0name]

Very nice take, I wrote a similar mytake just two days ago...