I don't know, looking back, I've had sex with girls that were "above" my league in terms of looks. Only one girl that was a charity case and "below" my league in terms of looks. Most girls have pretty much been "above" my league in terms of looks. I've never really had like a legit sculpted six pack. Despite that, it's never really been an issue. For as long as you're not a moron and you have an attractive face that's not resting on an ugly body... I haven't found looks to be that much of a make or break factor (as a guy).
Obviously, if the guy is like below a 7-8 out of 10, then he really shouldn't be thinking about doing anything with a 9-10. But he doesn't have to be a 9-10 himself in terms of looks to do something with a 9-10.
I think a girl is out of a guy's league if he's like a whole 2-3 steps lower than her in terms of looks, and she is more socially dominant and assertive than he is, and she has substantially more motivation than him (for life activities, fun and entertainment), and she makes way more money than him, and she's way more accomplished than him.
I mean, if that's the case, I don't care how "nice" you are, it's just not gonna happen. And if it is gonna happen, you're no longer a man, you're like this pocket drag along puppy dog play thing for her own "emotional" gratification.
Basically, if a relationship with you is not mutually beneficial and rewarding, then you're out of her league.
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I don't think we care about the number (as in 7.. 8 ) as much when we're attracted to someone
Looks obviously play a big role or when they are always super kind to me. I could never be with such a person bc sometimes I just need to have an argument with them, as crazy as it sounds.. Also when they are extremely smart but I've only ever met one person like that in my life and he was literally a Steve Jobs-level-genius so that's very unlikely to happen ahah :P
You can still go for them but try to think realistic on the chances of them saying yes. Never straight up ask them but just slowly ease your way in to get a better feel for if you do.
I think leagues are very subjective. Some people are attracted to certain types of people and some people are not. For some people it is only physical while for others league equates to wealth.
For me..
Physical.. I wouldn't date someone I'm not attracted to. You can say I'm arrogant but I'm not going to downplay myself to sound a certain way. I know I look good and and I work at it. If a girl doesn't take care of herself and take pride in her appearance too then I wouldn't consider her.
Everything else.. They would have to be self motivators and ambitious in what they want to do. I don't want a little pet I want a woman who knows what she wants and where she is going. Confidence is key. Education and intelligence is a must.. I don't need someone brilliant. That being said me being an engineer in the two or so years I need someone who can comprehend logic and understand what I'm talking about when I talk about work. I work hard at university and take care of myself.. I deserve a girl that is on that same level as me and if they aren't then I'm out of their league and they are below me. If some girl does everything I just listed better than me.. then she is out of my league.
I type fast. I meant to say in the 'next' two or three years.. I'm a 3rd year student now but I have to work to support myself so I don't know if I'll graduate on right on time.
that's great.. I have to work as well... this summer too... but I'll graduate on time.. @Orellana13 that's cute lol.. intelligence is always a turn on.. for me at least.. :P
But here's the case for me where it becomes incoherent; If there's this girl who looks decently average, but she's great with talkin and stuff, I'd probably form a good acquaintance with her much soon; and consider this other girl who looks overly gorgeous and is decent with talkin as well, then I would certainly take much time getting to know her personally. So this somehow, un-wantingly 😂 makes looks matter. This won't be the case had I been a bit more good looking and with an appeal somewhat :p
Appart from looks, I think it's mostly the life style they lead or personality type they are. Someone who parties and hangs out with dozens of people every week would be way out of league for someone who barely gets out of their house or doesn't know any one.
I've only ever thought leagues as 100% looks tbh. The other things like personality and status are more down to compatibility than league. There have been a few women way out of my league that i've approached and had amazing conversations with, even been on dates with a couple.
Looks are something kinda out of your control (within reason) so you accept that there will be "leagues". Things like being charming, having a good job and being able to socialise are really in your own hands. So instead of thinking people are out of my league here, i just improve myself.
I don't agree with some of the other opinions and I'll tell you why while answering your question.
What sets someone in a different league is their status. Not social status, but where a person stands in life. A person living in his mother's basement trolling his life away on the internet with no job and a garbage can next to his computer filled with used tissues *wink* should have no expectation for acquiring a supermodel to be his girlfriend. Feel my drift?
Only If their name is cinderelli lol! I don't really think about leagues... there might be a slight moment of being nervous but once you talk to the person and figure out they're normal people it all fades away.
Some people just inhabit entirely different worlds. I've met girls who are fitness models who date rich guys who owned companies. Those girls were living in a completely different world than me, like they expected the guys they dated to have significant means. That's a different league.
If I have done something bad and the other person hasn't done that sort of thing, I would feel like that person is too good for me. Lucky I haven't made any big mistakes so normally I'm the good guy but being good makes you lonely.
And No, its not mostly looks because everyone has their own opinions on whats good looking and whats not.
If someone finds a person out of their league by looks its because they have low self-esteem.
:) yea it is... its funny how only 3 girls have shared their opinions when 24 guys shared their own. This tells lots of things about girls 😂 and their "league" problem. 😂
No... I don't consider anyone to be out of my league or the other way around. Like I said a couple times ago. If you approach me to talk, then I'll talk with you no matter how 'hot' you are.
If someone thinks they are out of my league that usually is a red flag for me to stay away from them even if some where along the way they change their mind.
Ill just add that Im actually more likely to be intimidated by the looks and wealth of the guys pursuing her than I am to be intimidated by the looks and wealth of the actual girl.
For me It's when she's that too much innocent angel types Cause I personally am a bad boy And as we know Goddess and Devil won't match or look good together 😂 LOL
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a goddess won't be innocent sweetheart.. or she wouldn't get to be a goddess.. :P but this scenario seems to show you are out of their league. lol
Yaaaaaay I still have a chance @donjovi10 her love will kill the player inside me ok? Now go somewhere else So that India & Pakistan can get together 😂
I am muslim.. not a practicing one.. but by belief I am.. and my dad's cool.. I've always been a great daughter.. always made him proud... so he doesn't stop me from whatever I want to do in life.. :)
I don't drink anymore 😂 I first tried it when I was 12 then i used to try it when i was 16 but i didn't liked it so i quit :P Now I'm in love with apple juice 🍎😍 Have you tried it?
I don't know... maybe the way that person carries herself. Looks do play a part in that too, it's ridiculous to put people in a pedestal and make them be some great thing that in reality there as normal as I am.
@norsenorthman Yea, that logic was awful, as well as assumptions, but about what I expected. "Equal" is relative, and applies to certain conditions. We as people have a lot of things about us that are different. Some are stronger, some are taller, some look better, some are born into money, some aren't. However we all have the ability to improve on our life and advance forward, that's something that IS equal. You yourself control where you are, and therefor leagues don't matter, as that would defeat the entire purpose of a league. People shouldn't "get over" things, they should attempt to change them.
some things cannot be changed, hahahaahaha.. you're older than i am, and less aware... cool. acceptance in life comes with peace, not moping about shit that is beyond your reach.
@norsenorthman Oh look, more assumptions. It's like this is common from people on the internet or something. I never said everything can be changed. In fact I firmly believe otherwise. And "not moping about shit that is beyond your reach." is literally what I just said. You don't comprehend what you read, and then make incredibly wrong assumptions. No, your age is about correct.
In the earth, we dont have anything, but I think we have three things ... 1. personality 2. character and 3 . knowledge those are actually define who you are. Thanks.
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