



I’m sure almost everyone has been there. I’ve historically gotten pretty good reviews when girls have told me, or I’ve heard from a girl’s friend, or just getting occasionally catcalled by (usually drunk😂) women, and to some degree, I feel like the general level of women I’ve been attached to in some way speaks to some degree of where I stand in attractiveness, because I definitely didn’t have money going for me back in my single days, lmfao. I do have a very outgoing personality, I’m extremely polite and gentlemanly, most people consider me pretty funny…I have other things going for me. I think a lot hinges on a gal’s feelings about blonde guys, that seems to make me or break me sometimes, but overall, I feel good saying that I’m on the better side of average, and some girls seem to find me very attractive. I still think I swing “up” at women, though, I’m just a sucker for a pretty face😅 I feel good about myself because there have been so many times when I’d finally get with a chick and inside I’m like “holy shit, I can’t believe I actually pulled her! I was just throwing her my flyer, I didn’t think she’d be really be interested!” lmao. Point is: my “league” can’t be THAT low, I’ve done alright for myself. All that said, even more times, it’s felt like I couldn’t get certain girls to spit in my face if my eyebrows were on fire. You know, just trying to get that quick eye contact going, I’ll keep glancing over, and I don’t get one look. Not even on her radar. Those sting a little, haha. I guess I have to remember women aren’t walking hard-ons “putting out the vibe” to every attractive member of the opposite sex😂 Didn’t matter what I was doing, I would drop it to chase a skirt. It feels like it’s more urgent for guys than it seems to be for women. “I need to holler at this chick RIGHT NOW.”, lmao. Meanwhile a woman can just go about her workout or do her shopping or whatever activity related to the venue we’re in without losing all focus. Must be nice😂😂😂 Anyway, I’ve rambled enough, but I’d just tie it up with “yes”, I do feel like some women could be out of my league, but at the same time, I feel like any woman could do a lot worse than me. It’s really more just about she prioritizes in a man. She’s not really wrong or right for it, it is what is, and I am what I am. It’s not so much about leagues as much as it’s just a match or it isn’t🤷♂️
I guess if I ever look at it that way everybody would be out of my
league because I'm in a league
of my own I don't belong to any legs nor would I want to
We're all 97 98% the same DNA so we're all compatible in certain ways it's just that 2 or 1% the changes everything from attitude to how you've grown up and if you are and who you choose to be
There could be a poor girl and a rich girl standing side-by-side the odds are I'm going to pick the poor girl because she knows what it's like to be poor she knows what it's like not to have what you want when you want it she knows what it's like not to be able to take a shower or wash your clothes she knows what it's like to be poor
And to do without
I have seen a lot of very beautiful lemons are rich or their families rich I would take the poor girl any day over the rich girl because all she does is she wants it's all about her she wants it she gets it she doesn't understand the meaning of life most of the time are worth the struggle is and sometimes when they open their mouth and just the words that come out of it and how they are spoken I'll take the poor girl any day
So I don't know if that is a big or if that's just life
Maybe it's my age. But remembering being 19 and 18, or even younger, I can't say I've ever had that feeling. Might be because I had two strong parents who raised my brother and me to have self-esteem and confidence. What's going to happen if someone isn't interested in you? They say, "No," or "Let's be friends," instead of romantic partners.
You might get depressed, upset or annoyed. But again. If someone says "No," you were never going to be with them anyway. This happens if you think they're superior to you or if they're just ordinary.
So, my feeling is no one is out of your league: No matter how much money or how many connections, education or what fabulous job they have. If you have significant HUMAN connections, most of those superficial things are background noise. If you're both flexible and above gossip, the league is what you make it.

It only happened once.
It was 2019, I was single and I traveled to Macao with my friends and there I met a guy who looked like, don’t even know how to describe him, the closest he looked like Achilles from Troy, only he was younger, (probably 25-26) more handsome, taller and with broader shoulders.
He was so sexy the time stopped when I looked at him and I quickly looked away to not make him feel I was totally shocked by his appearance, the funny thing was he came to me and asked for my number and I declined giving it to him, cause I thought he was too sexy for me.
My female friend was there with me, looking at me shocked for what I have done.
Have never met anyone sexier. Apart from my boyfriend, who’s the sexiest man for me because I love him.
I wonder what’d I do if I met him a few months later after that, I was much more confident than before, maybe I’d not put him out of my league.
Then though, that felt like he was a guy straight out of the movie. As perfect as one can get.
What a depressing story...
@Agagagagaga why?
I don’t get depressed thinking of it.
What isn’t depressing about it?
You see some guy so hot it blows your mind, he actually approaches you and you then reject him because of cowardice and low self-esteem. Yes, I said cowardice. Romance takes courage. How many guys chicken out over asking out someone? Thousands and thousands, men chicken out, and women chicken out, and it’s depressing.
Who knows, for all you know that guy felt the same way about you. Maybe the sight of you made his knees weak. Who knows.
Then you find another guy, your boyfriend, who is sexier—even though you didn’t really think so at first because you first had to fall in love with him. Depressing. “Yay I’m not as hot as your look alike Achilles and you’ve got to get to know me first and fall in love to think I’m sexier.”
It’s not exactly a ringing endorsement for one’s physical attractiveness. “You’ve just got to get to know them, then you’ll see how hot they are.”
Depressing depressing depressing.
@Agagagagaga Yes, if you look at it like that, it can be depressing, you know maybe I really was a coward at that time. I was scared of many things, falling in love, getting hurt and that guy was just so handsome, I assumed I would get hurt so didn’t even give a chance. So you have every right to think I was a coward.
I thought he was probably in the Top 1% of the most attractive men in the world, and I wasn’t confident enough to accept that, in my thoughts I was not good enough.
That changed a lot in the following months after that encounter, because I’ve had so many attractive men ask me out that I finally realized that probably I was attractive enough to be the girl all men approached even in the room full with beautiful models, guys from all continents came to me instead of other girls. At that time I thought maybe yes, I have a charisma to catch the attention of so many people.
I was surprised to find that out.
And my boyfriend is really sexy, he’s a former handball champion, he’s Asian, 30 cm taller than me with broad shoulders and the best body I’ve seen other than that guy…
I just feel bad to admit he’s not the sexiest, because I love him, he’s second sexiest after that guy though.
That Achiless guy is easily the sexiest man I’ve ever set my eyes on.
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Can't say I've ever really bought into that "out of your league" stuff. I don't see most women as that lofty, even the most attractive ones. And you would be surprised how confidence has an effect on most people when you exude it, even if you aren't the greatest looking person.
Nope , I have not. No one could be at my league , already. I mean I do not praise on myself , I do not even find myself good-looking , indeed. What I wanna express is I have been always waiting for the true and the best one as my soulmate , so far who will be my wife in the future. I have always been really shy against the opposite gender already. Never told my feelings thankfully. Of course , I just had four platonic ones who may be classified as kinda candidate my leauge members and actually just one of them is really cute to me , since I always take into consideration their personalities and do not even mind about the physical appearance. But just one and only my upcoming wife can be at my league like I will be hers as the only , first and also the last one until I or she die , and never ever think of marrying anyone during our lifetime like the love it was before (in da past) . Remember our hearts belong to only one person just open up its door to the most valuable who deserves it and close it extremely tightly as no any other one even attemt to knocks it once again ;)
At first, who doesn't? The last time I thought like that was when I was 11. There's things you have to remember. Someone might be very physically appealing, but we all have our flaws. We all go through our own crap and our own hells. No one is perfect. I started to become a little more confident and just had fun. I never focused on someone being out of my league. It also portrays how the person views you. If you believe someone will look down on you, then you really don't see the good in them. So please don't focus on things like that. I have always hated it when a guy told me e thought I was out of his league. I'm always like, "seriously?", it's like, do I give off a bad vibe like that? So never ever think like that!!
I feel that leagues DO EXIST, despite all the butt hurt people who deny it.
I avoid dating guys out of my league because there's a good chance he might cheat on me , one day. And if you're dating guys out of your league, there is a good chance that you will meet a lot of people who will point fingers and say "he can do wayy better than her". There would be women throwing themselves at him all year round, including very attractive women. It would up to be only him to resist all their advances.
I'd be happier with someone who is mildly attractive but not model type hot. It provides me a better peace of mind knowing there isn't a bimbo throwing herself at my husband.
I think you overestimate how much women hit on men. Half the time we have no idea you’re even hitting on us because your hints are so vague and subtle. In my experience good looking guys are often completely oblivious to how good looking they are because women never compliment them or actually approach them. This is why so many good looking guys end up with women that confuses other people. We just think “oh cool, a girl likes me” and you start dating and before you know it you’re a couple. I think women think that attractive men get hit on to the same degree that attractive women do, but they really don’t. Just look at how many questions there are on GaG from women who like some guy but they are too scared to actually approach him so instead they ask “how do I get him to like me?” as if they want to manipulate the guy into asking them out. Just talk to the guy. We’re not going to think you’re desperate or wet with lust after our bodies.
@Agagagagaga
you're just saying that because you've never been on the top 20% of all men. Trust me, if a guy looked hot like a model, he will have women smiling and looking and glancing and starting conversations with him.
I had a guy friend who was very good looking. Every time he sat at a cafe , glanced at a woman, the woman would always say something to him.
I think you just have no idea what it means to be a very handsome man. I'm not talking a guy who looks like an 7.5-8 out of 10. I'm talking about guys who look like a 9-10 out of 10.
@Agagagagaga
When I was in college, I had a very handsome professor. He was a 9 out of 10. All the girls in the class had a crush on him. He knew he was constantly being checked out during lectures because I have seen him blush a couple of times. One really hot girl in the class, raised her hand and asked him if the phone number listed on the board was his personal cell phone number. He instantly knew what she meant.
I think you just don't know what it means to be a super duper attractive guy.
There was a time two police officers responded to my home. I instantly noticed one of the police officers was extremely handsome, it was dazzling to even have the opportunity to make eye contact with him. I stared at him in total wonder. His very average looking but attractive partner noticed me being absolutely mesmerized by his partner. He narrowed his eyes in jealousy and secretly scoffed under his breath.
Dont say that men don't notice. Men do notice.
And my very hot boss is married to a woman who is also very very very hot.
but honestly... why would he have to settle for the average looking woman, if he looks so incredible? Very good looking men tend to be much more confident than the average dude. They actually have the confidence to talk to very very attractive women.
In my case, the answer is a firm NO! I don't look at women that way. I have dated some fine-looking ladies and I have dated some that were not as fine. As I have said many times here. My standard is based on her hygiene and things like visible tats and if she smokes or not. In general, if you start that league crap I will give you the gift of my absence. Let me say this. As I stated, I have dated some really hot ladies. I also have dated some that maybe are not as hot. The most fun I have had while out was with the ones that were not as hot. They are easier to talk to and are not full of themselves. A man that dates solely on looks in my opinion is a damn fool.
@moose304. Well said Moose.
Nope, most men date women based on their look, or at least the initial approach is based on looks. Now there are a few men who realize that looks is all based on genetics during young years. It's only later in life when your metabolism slows down that you have to exercise to maintain it. So if she didn't have to do anything for those looks then why should she be out of my league? Now this is given that me as a man am also doing my best in life. If you are doing the best you can, then you should not consider anyone out of your league. However this doesn't apply to the top 0.1 % of women who are super models, and movie stars who are actually paid for their looks.
When I was 20, I moved away to a different college. This college that I moved away to was full of upper middle class students, where if for example they were talking marriage with someone, the parents would want to meet, etc... In light of that, I did meet some women who I thought were "out of my league"... Before then, I don't think I'd thought much about "leagues"... And I only really thought about that concept while I was there... Not so much later. But at the University there was that sort of social hierarchy.
If I learned anything throughout my years of dating it's this
When it comes to men leagues don't really exist. Naturally men and women like to think leagues exist since it lets you categorize things more easily but fact is there are some ugly bastards out there who are great at getting women and then there are some very good looking bastards out there that are just garbage at it.
Fact is if a man has charisma he can get just about any woman. And if he doesn't have high charisma then if he just has some very specific skill he can still at least get a bunch of women who are very interested in that specific skill because I've learned this about women they love dating men with interesting skill sets or at least skill sets they find interesting I don't know why this is but I find it kind of cool.
Basically if you don't exactly look the best develop some skills and get yourself some charisma and you'll do fine
Having a skill isn't e personality trait
If you date someone because they can fix a TV then you're still shallow
Some guys would
However attractive women with good personalities aren't exactly in low supply
Also most women aren't ugly
I bet theirs vastly more ugly men than women
Good hygiene and a bit of exercise can get you pretty far
Did you see them on the internet?
@crossdressingrihno
"good personality " is entirely subjective. For one guy, an attractive personality might be a feisty woman. For another guy, an attractive personality could be quick witted. For the next guy, an attractive personality could be calm, cool, shy and soothing.
There isn't a universal one size fits all.
Few men would date a woman less attractive than he.
Your not a guy and doubt you talk to a lot of guys so I'm gonna need to see some proof
Tying the knot again? Chances are, there’s a bigger age gap than the first time around
Not only are men who have recently remarried more likely than those beginning a first marriage to have a spouse who is younger; in many cases, she is much younger. Some 20% of men who are newly remarried have a wife who is at least 10 years their junior, and another 18% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger. By comparison, just 5% of newlywed men in their first marriage have a spouse who is 10 years younger, and 10% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
Maybe women prefer older men?
I don't know all the variables
Anyways I'm going to play resident evil now
Women prefer older men only up until a certain age. Guys lose their attractiveness after 40. After that a woman tend to want either men around her age or a bit younger. But typically older women will never be able to score a hotter younger men so they resort to dating guys who are older than them.
I don't see how these older guys getting younger women then
If you break up with your wife to get a younger women then your just a dick
As you can see from the research data , men marry slightly younger women in their first marriage. But for the second marriage, men marry women who are even younger than their first wives.
I , myself, have come across single dads in their 40s who straight out refuse to date women their own age.
Well they suck then
Yeah?
Honestly it also a curse. I don't really have any friends my own age for the most part
It's
I do
I have like 6 freinds between 40 and 60 but only 3 in ages between 20 and 30
Feel free to message me when you like I'm bored 90% of the time in not working
No, leagues don't even exist, it's just a term people use when they foolishly think their preferences are the same as everyone else's. I've seen people strut around like they are the best thing on earth, have hordes of adoring fans, and I've thought of them as human garbage.
You can't caste society based on what you like, and still be accurate to a person's value to others, and no matter who likes you, there will always be many who don't.
When I'm looking for a person to date/marry, I have specific things I like, and only women with those things will be a good fit for me, get along with me, excite me, etc. and you could bring along plenty of women who you think are much better, but I'm going to see them as much worse because they are not my type.
No I just fell some people aren't worth it. No person is out of my league they are just claiming a prize I don't agree with. So they end up being a bad deal compared to other options. And a bad deal is always below a good deal. So never out of my league.
No. Literally no one is out of my league. If I wanted to ask out the queen in a thousand year old dynasty, I would. I mean why not? I'm fully aware that they would probably turn me down, but it wouldn't stop me from asking.
Hey, if the queen likes a peon like me, what's that say about them? It says a lot about them and would make me like them even more. That would be pretty damn cool of them. I'm not going to assume anything without giving them a chance.
It's not uncommon to have insecurities and worries. Keeping them hidden within you won't help. I've felt insecure, at times, when a woman was quite aesthetically appealing. This said, I'm used to hearing things from the other side with respect to intelligence/career/etc. I'm not sure that there truly is such a thing as being out of someone's league. However, compatibility is a must.
Of course and I regret not shooting my shot because I found our much later she was interested and felt I wasn't because I would not take the initiative and ask her out. When I think back she was around a lot and always made it a point to interact and smile and was sweet which tortured me because I didn't want to mess that up by asking her out. If someone catches your attention and suddenly is around a lot is sweet to you and makes an effort to get to know you don't assume she is just being nice
@virtue2332 Unfortunately, the experience taught me that if someone catches my attention & makes an effort to get to know me, it's a trap.
Usually no, as I don’t really do league stuff, if I like someone and I have an emotional connection then I tend to find it works out.
only real time was when younger and dated a girl who came from a very wealthy family, I struggled to live on my basic Air Force salary (new recruit stuff) and she had more of a pocket money allowance than my annual salary lol.
that was about as close as I got to being with someone well outside my comfort zone.
Yeah and I spoke to her after 7 years out of high school. We never spoke in high school but she dated a friend of mine. She's still really beautiful but my efforts lead to nothing and I really put in all the effort I could like chatting to her everyday until early parts of the morning. We vibe on so many things like music, shows and so much more but I just don't know. I miss her now even but I can't say anything. She didn't block me but just leaves me on read now. She's into someone else as I've heard but that's it for me.
Yes , I have when someone is too old for you especially if you were almost 27 and the person that was out of your league was 39
Ya they are out of my league 😂
Actually no. That thought hasn't ever really occurred to me. I've had other people tell me that a woman was out of my league (and they were probably right), but one of my major approaches to life is ask how I can do something, as opposed to coming up with reasons that I can't.
I've felt like people were out of my league but never like someone was better than me.
If I feel like I. Not good enough to date someone that just means I need to work on myself harder.
Thinking like that will get you nowhere in this life. You make yourself the best you can be for yourself. It puts you in a healthy frame of mind. Then anything is possible.
yes the guy im currently seeing im a woman with a child he’s a guy with no kids and is fit & has his life on track. im overweight have a kid still finishing up school i know im temporary in his life he’ll make some woman proud one day it just won't be me
I literally feel that whichever girl I talk to is out of my league. As if I am not worthy of them.
I don't know if I am or not, but I have this feeling that no girl will choose me when it comes to a relationship or marriage.
Everyone is because I'm a worthless human being, everyone treats me with disrespect and hate even when I'm doing nothing wrong, so I must be a invaluable worthless human if I get treated like I am, n everyone else is better than me so I never speak in real life... Such a ugly worthless human like me doesn't deserve to speak or be seen, I jus hide in my house from everyone for years
Yeah in the past I did but i was like 17 and insecure
No, because I don't accept the concept of "leagues".
No never. I've no reason to feel that anyone is 'out of my league' and if anyone behaves as if they are towards me? I am happy to tell them in no uncertain terms why they aren't!
Yesss this one guy he was sooo hot and so talented but my friend talked me out of thinking that way. It’s funny I don’t usually think that but something about that one guy and he was flirting with me asking me out and I still felt that way LOL
I stop thinking like that once I matured. It is egoistical and the wrong way to think about things.
Yes! He was soooooo handsome! But I don't know why he used to act a little shy and nervous around me?
Probably because he thought the same thing about you! :)
Haha. Well, maybe you are, too.
Well, it's certainly possible! I'm sure it happens more often than people realize.
Woah. Hahah. Although there is another guy tho, who also acted nervous and shy around me, but he wasn’t out of my league. He chased me and got me interested in him and then said he wasn’t ready for a relationship? Was I not attractive enough for him or could it have been something else?
Yes.
Did you ever have sex with him?
Hmm. Ok; then it wasn't because of anything sexual. It must have been a different reason.
... Unless he just wanted sex, so he left because he didn't get it!
Ooo!
Yeah I thought they were 2 popular and they only wanted popular girls but i was wrong and he liked me back.
Great, did he ask you out?
@BarryLiverstone no he liked me and I liked him but he was 2 chicken and we stopped liking each other
That’s too bad :(
Yeah a girl in high school.. She was a total babe.. All the guys had a crush on her and I was the only guy she gave attention... I felt quite intimated... Fast forward..
she now looks like a mom 🤣🤣
Intimidated **
Think I felt that way with everyone I been with, lol. Yet ironic, none of them ever felt like they deserved me. Common to devalue yourself I suppose.
Naw, we either hit it off or we don't. League never had anything to do with it.
I didn’t think of it in those terms, I just thought she wouldn’t date me (which was a correct assessment).
Oh all the time I hate it!! Haha! But that is an insecurity thing and you can go ahead and shove that where the sun don’t shine!
Yes my first and only boyfriend. He was handsome , intelligent and sucessful. He had girls jaws drop from his charm. It took me a while to try to understand why he wanted simple not a knockout me.
No I never Felt that some Self Absorbed narcissistic Hot babe was out of my league.
Quite the opposite.
I don’t feel That females are out of my league. i don’t feel they are out of my league but that I am out of there league.
If I'm not attracted to them, I'm out of they're league, if I'm attracted to them, I'm in they're league.
Yes but that didn't stop me from eventually making a move. I just had to work up the guts ig
I've felt that... THEY FELT that THEY were out of my league!
Yes, I believe dating leagues are a thing, to an extent.
Lol i agree
I probably did, can't remember. I now don't. I can get whomever I choose.
Not based on appearance alone. But women who were beautiful, athletic, had a perfect GPA, scuba dived, spoke 5 languages - those kind of girls intimidated me in college.
Oh yea definitely felt like someone was out of my league. With them I feel like I can be replaced so easily because they are so much more attractive than me.
A bunch of times. But my two longest gfs I thought that about. Both of them were smoking hot and they’d be jealous all the time. Like, you both have nothing to worry about. Lol
Everybody sometimes i wonder if its even the same game we are playing
All the time, I've never felt like anyone was within my league, everyone's out of it.
No. People who think in "leagues" tend to be the bottom of the pile types anyway.
I can't think of anyone who would be out of HER league. She's absolutely gorgeous!
@Jamie05rhs. Simp.
Haha funny... gonna have to send you something in awhile.
@KrakenAttackin Whatever, dude.
Literally every man is out of my league. I’m not good enough for anybody
I'm dead 😆
I feel like that with everyone, unfortunate but true
I don’t think I have ever truly thought like that. 🤔
No, apart from celebs, everyone seems to be in reach.
Of course, I have. Movie stars and Olympic gold medals winners are out of my league and they are out of your league too.
No
I really liked very few people
All the people i liked liked me back
And i dated only those who i like a lot and who liked me
Nobody is better than me
Yes, it's happened a few times. That's what happens when your personality and humor are on point.
sure. no issue with that tho. it is what it is. i don't live in delusion of who i am.
Once I become s doctor nobody will be out of my league except weirdo celebrities
Yeah when I started dating but nowadays I don't date so it's a non-issue
To be perfectly honest I have never met a girl who is out of my league more so the opposite is true.
Yeah which is why I date ugly women because I can't take the heat when I'm with someone pretty either I find out she's a whore, she didn't really like me like that, or some other person takes her away
How can you date someone you find ugly?
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