What Do You Think About The 80/20 Rule?

[NightOwl_23]

That 80% women want 20% of men? Do you believe that it is true or false and why?

[Lancaster4201]

The 80/20 rule is a rule of thumb that says that 80% of the results are caused by 20% of the effort, but it applies to many other things and can be tweaked. It usually isn't exactly. The actual numbers might be from 85%-75%, but if you were to take the average of all cases it would round to about 80/20.

In regards to the 80/20 rule in dating, I do think its true that 80% of women find the ideal man (surface level qualities) to be within the 20% of men, but that doesn't mean that they won't even look at the remaining 80%. It might be true that the top 20% of our populations (male and female) are the best in terms of reproduction and that is why the theory/generalization is true. In our monogamous culture (it primarily is) that would mean that most guys wouldn't even get a chance to date because the male/female populations are fairly close. Sticking to that would severely ruin both of our chances to mate.

Also men arguably would be the same way if not more so. We find 20% of women to be the ideal physical woman. However we like women for being women so if they are not a part of the 20% it doesn't mean that we won't date them.

I think its true to an extent as a generalization of the surface level characteristics of the ideal partner, but in practice its very false especially once you get to the deeper layers of a relationship.

[JuanFrank7]

This. this right here is the best possible answer

[DamonGill]

yeah i think it's true - lets say 20% of people are "hot", 60% are average, 20% are less than average. women get multiple offers from men (as men make the first move), so they get to choose the hot men - the top 20% in this case. now this 80% of women are you average+hot girls = seeing as the can choose their men they always pick the best guy so punch above their weight (or equal to their weight in the case of hot girls.)

[NightOwl_23]

So then guys like me have no hope?

[DamonGill]

nope. cause there's still that 20% also this is just a general rule. not always spot on, and its mainly for casual sex more than a relationship.

[NightOwl_23]

Well maybe, I do I because, I dont think, I would be attracted to any women in the 20%

[fabulouspancakes]

I think there's some truth to it. I would say I'm not really physically attracted to more than (roughly) 20% of men. HOWEVER, there's a million other factors involved here. Most women realize they cannot have a man in the top 20%, just as most men realize they cannot have a woman in the top 20%. So they will find other things to appreciate in a partner, or "settle," depending on how you look at it. That's why most people do in fact have relationships. When guys in the lower 80% end up alone is when they expect a woman who is more attractive than they are yet refuse to do anything meaningful to improve themselves. This is what we see with basically all "incels" and "nice guys."

[btbc92]

I find it stupid. Not everybody is attracted to the same thing. And not everybody wants to be involved with the same type of people. I say this is all very made up and discrimination against women in that way, and the men who have a hard time finding right kind of partner. Because of it was true, how come we have so many picky men who don't want certain women who want them because of fill in the blink? Of course you have the same thing with women, just fill in the blink physically as well. People just need to stop making excuses. If you get find somebody then you can't find somebody IF you really placed in the effort. But constantly complaining isn't getting anybody anywhere.

[karahiri]

False. My friends and I are -never- into the same guy.

[oddwaffle]

It's a dumb idea that hasn't been scientifically proven. The number is never strictly 80/20. It just gives you a rough idea.

For example, you have 100 items for sale. The 80/20 rule says that roughly 20 of those items will be your best sellers. It sounds cool until you realized that you are just counting your top 20 out of 100 and call it a day.

Things tend to move in a spectrum in life. You get the top then you move to the bottom. Each is a bit better or worse. The exceptions are the extremes. Those tend to be exceedingly different from any other rank.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

False information that's spread by MGTOW, insecure, and inexperienced lonely men.

[NightOwl_23]

I agree MGTOW is stupid, if you going to give up dating and or focus on other things and just do it dont announce it or be brainwashed by others.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I mean if you just go out, you'll see that 80/20 rule is wrong.

[NightOwl_23]

You're right, that rule might apply to online dating but doesn't apply in real life.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Well, not in online dating as well. People usually match up with someone they find is similar to them. There's millions of people dating online. The diversity of looks is astounding. 80/20 doesn't necessarily apply to online as well.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Like I said, only inexperienced, insecure, and lonely men believe and spread this. My opinion

[NightOwl_23]

It seems to with online dating in my case personally it was terrible, I couldnt even get matches or responses. The only two girls that did message me back knew me in real life and probably felt sorry for me.

[NightOwl_23]

The few girls, I approached in real life rejected me.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Most people online match with people they're similar to really. Whether it's race or reading their profiles to see a connection. Sometimes people have been unlucky. Maybe it's due to other factors like location

[NightOwl_23]

My city is 450 000 and we have a big college and university, so location isn't an issue.

[Kongeørn]

Extreme and simply not true, as a male you can't possibly always know if a woman wants you either. Most don't make it obvious

[NightOwl_23]

I agree, I dont understand that theory or MGTOW.

[Bandit74]

I think its true primarily for casual sex/flings.

So women are generally only interested in having no strings attached sex with the guys in the top 20% of attractiveness, but are willing to have sex with average guys as long as they pay for dates, wait for sex, and offer commitment/emotional exclusivity first.

[Dale1982]

There might be something to it. Women are told what to like and dislike, how to act, what to wear eye from the media. It's their bible so the media being as shallow and facile as it is they probably would encourage the vast majority of women to chase men based on certain features and characteristics

[Ginger-vitus]

as hard as it is, you gotta ignore this stuff man. both the people for and against it. Just do something you truly love to do and focus on that. And you might be surprised how many woman find a man like that attractive, regardless of body type... for the most part

[prozmay]

Yup Pareto's principle caused by Bateman's principle. 1% of men can knock up 100% of women, so most men are superfluous to reproduction and women have far higher sexual value. This is why dating is 10x easier for women.

[NightOwl_23]

Which is why ugly guys like me need to give up.

[Cosytoasty]

Yeah and 80% of men WANT 20% of women too.

What both genders actually end up with is a different story entirely.

[JuanFrank7]

I do believe the rule applies to pretty much everything and even un cases where I've been skeptical others have proved me wrong.
Sooo I'd say it is true in this case as well

[shortguyloser]

It's true, because short guys are not in the 20% and they are mostly single.

[Futron]

I like short men- they're just hard to find.
I can't speak for most girls, though.

[shortguyloser]

@Futron Hard to find? Are you blind?

[UnknownXYZ]

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"... they're just hard to find"

[meatballs21]

Oh it's true - because in dating sites, women are spoiled for choice and can afford to be picky.

[RedThread]

What about preferences? That doesn't factor into the equation?

[Anonymous]

It is true, every girl wants a beautiful boyfriend and if they don't like the guy they will not be with them but we boys even though we want beautiful women ourselves, we are okay with to be with most of the women.

[disgustingweebtrash]

There's a truth to it and understandable as to why people believe it exists, maybe not as high as 80/20 a bit lower

[JustCallMeLeon]

Its true but only because 20% of guys are actual men enough.

[DizzyAster]

Hey, do you see all those couples in the world?
Yeah, I think that rule has a hole in it's logic.

[Smegskull]

the 80/20 rule is way bigger than that. it turns up in so many statistics.

[Rain1997]

No it's absolutely wrong I can't explain why but it is 😂

[Old_Man_Of_The_Sea]

I think it's a little extreme, myself.

[Mitch6192]

Women want different things at different ages.

[DinaM]

First I ever heard of it. I don't think it's true.

[SuitAndTie]

I think it's a bunch of baloney

[grega239]

hypergamy... go google

[Tw1nm3t3or]

Garbage

[Anonymous]

I didn't understand that

[UnknownXYZ]

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That only the top 20% of men are found attractive by 80% of women. All other guys who fall below the the top 20% are deemed unattractive and invisible to 80% of women. The remaining 20% of women are very low value (obese, deformed etc...).

[NightOwl_23]

So, Im doomed?

[Opinion Owner]

@UnknownXYZ thanks for exploration

[Opinion Owner]

I think that rate may change

[UnknownXYZ]

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@NightOwl_23 Naaa... You're not.

And that rate is only an estimate. The point is that that the amount of men a woman would be attracted to is very low compared to the amount of women that are attractive to men.

[Tiger288]

Yea I believe it