Why is it that men are expected to accept rejection and take the consolation prize aka friendship. However whenever we men reject it, we're wrong?

[Marinepilot]

I call bullshit on this, It takes a lot of courage for a guy to ask a girl out. He's sticking his neck out there and making himself vulnerable. Women sometimes reject us, and that's their right. I get that.
Attraction can't be forced. But, many women who offer the idiotic "Let's just be friends" bullshit, get all pissy and hurt if we men have the unmitigated temerity to say no thank you. Women don't owe men relationships or sex. By the same token, men don't owe women friendship. To all women who get upset by men rejection friendship, I say fuck you ! If you shoot a guy down, which is your prerogative, and he refuses your friendship, then you have no right to be upset. I think that this is hypocritical. I say whenever a girl tries to friendzone a guy he should say, "A platonic relationship won't work for me, I want to date you, I don't want to be your friend. Call me when and if your change your mind". Walk away and ghost her ass. Ok kiddies, chime in. Did I start a shitstorm? I hope so.

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Franky if a girl rejects you romantically, then she's saying you aren't good enough. The way I see it, if I'm not good enough to date you, you're not good enough to be my friend. And then walk away and never speak to her ever again. Like I've always said and always will, anyone can be replaced, NEXT !

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+1 y

I still maintain that the LJBF way of rejection is so fucking phony. A man
with a modicum of self respect will politely refuse friendship. Then go on about his business.

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+1 y

Ok, time to bring the curtain down on this. Women have the right to reject a man's advances or interest, if you will. Men can say no thank
you to LJBF. Women have absolutely no right to be upset if a man refuses her friendship and hear her talk about the new guy in her life, To all you women who think men should accept you insulting consolation prize, FUCK YOU !

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I say that any manwho accept the friend zone is a dickless Momma's bot mangina faggot orbiter. Girls says LJBF, he out to say Friendship isn't enough. Don't insult me bitch, fuck you ! Then ghost her ass from then on out.

[partydelights]

Maybe this is a cultural behavior...

Over here in Asia, we "friend" without sexual overtones, be us classmates, colleagues, church friends...

When we decide to "date", both know the end point: possible marriage and of course, sex life.

So we have "friends" everywhere. But only become "lovers" when we start to go out as a couple and still no sex.

If the potential for marriage fails, they "breakoff" but some remain "friends".

In all cases, no sex is involved.

[Marinepilot]

I believe it is cultural.

[partydelights]

Have you been to Singapore or Malaysia? I'm from these countries. Most of us still married as virgins or very inexperienced.

[Marinepilot]

No I haven't. Although I've met many Malaysian and Singaporean girls. Very feminine and pretty.

[boggboss]

I mostly agree altho don't think it's that big of a problem but a guy can equally disagree to friendship nothing wrong there

[Marinepilot]

True.

[Kureghooghoo]

I totally agree with you. You don't have to be here friend. If you like her companionship anyway, accept it. But if not, you don't have to accept her offer. Just be frank and say you want more than just a normal friendship.

[Marinepilot]

I'm pleasantly surprised that many women agree with me on this.

[Kureghooghoo]

Lol why? Its pretty rational. Though it may be hard for you to say you want a relationship and for her to hear her friendship is rejected by you.

[Marinepilot]

C'est la vie ! I'll be dipped in shit if I'd EVER allow a girl to friend zone me. I did it once as a teenager and after one month I told her, "Kathy, I can't do this anymore. We're either boyfriend and girlfriend or nothing at all". She was pissed. I said either we're all in or I walk. We dated for six months. I left her because I caught her in a lie. Frankly, men who have the courage to refuse friendship don't care how it affects a girl when they reject us. Nor should we.

[Kureghooghoo]

Being considerate is kind.

[Marinepilot]

It is. However, when a guy just gets rejected, he's hurt and prone to say anything. Perhaps I'm a bit too plain spoken. But I'm not flakey.

[Kureghooghoo]

Being plain is not bad. As I said, in a relationship, the more honest and frank, the better.

[Marinepilot]

True.

[Marinepilot]

What frosts my ass is that women think we men aren't entitled to our feelings. That we're supposed to be their little Momma's boy orbit faggot orbiter. Reject a guy, he's hurt, so he wants nothing to do with you for awhile. Maybe ever. What's wrong about that? I defy anyone to tell me that it's wrong. You can't. Accepting the friend zone as a consolation prize. First loser in my opinion.

[Marinepilot]

I really don't care if she's hurt after her rejecting me and I reject her
bullshit LJBF, No fucking thank you.

[kyyybrianne]

I tend to agree with you on this. We as girls generally offer friendship as an alternative because we enjoy spending time with the guy and it's kind of selfish actually. It's definitely a double standard though

[Marinepilot]

It is selfish and a double standard. I see beta orbiters everyday and it sickens me.

[JustAnotherSoul]

The Whole friemdzone thing is not really familiar to me... Usually if I'm not interested in the guy I would say it... If they request my friendship I would accept (yes, this happens pretty often) I only suggested something similar when I liked the guy, but I didn't wanted a relationship right away.. I would be... Let's hang around more and get to know each other better, se where things are going... I think I friend zoned somone I ce in my life... and It was mutual... It was this guy I neg in high school... He was hella smart, good looking, funny, and somone I coulld learn from... Basically all I wanted from a guy.. we became really close.. And it was a strong attraction between us... We where both aware of it... We kept going like that almost 1... Flirting, and joking around, taking every day... we finally talked about it, we tried, but it ended up before it began... He didn't felt prepared for a relationship, but he didn't liked to see me with other guys, so we kinda backed off... Some time passed, we never stopped talking with each other... And one day we just sai... Shall we be friends? I miss talking to you every day... And so we did... Now we are best friends, he is like a brother to me... Is a truly platonic love, we both have relationships, and we are happy, but between us is a lot of trust and understanding, and he is basically the brother I never had

[Marinepilot]

There's no way I could that.

[JustAnotherSoul]

I don't know... I usually think you meet people for ar reason... When I met him was chemistry... We developed such a strong conectori in such sort time, I never met before someone I can have such fluid and natural conversation with... I a romantic relationship it wasn't meant to be, but we have something special.. Cuz I never trusted someone more, and is nothing I can't tell him..

[Anonymous]

Friendship is not a 'consolation prize'. To say so implies you see women's only role as providing men with romance and sex. If you value someone as a person and enjoy their company that is a valuable relationship in itself. I get that sometimes people need distance after being turned down in order to get over the other person or find seeing them after too difficult, but that does not equate to friendship being a 'consolation prize'. Think about how it feels from the other side, having a really good friend develop feelings for you that you don't return and then losing them because of it, only for them to say your friendship meant so little to them. It's shitty all round. If you're straight maybe imagine it as like if a really great guy friend developed feelings for you and then abandoned you because you weren't interested

[Marinepilot]

I disagree. Frankly, I don't care if girls are upset if a man refuses friendship. If a man is romantically interested, then LJBF is a consolation prize and an insult. Friendship is

bullshit if a guy sees you romantically. When you hit the wall at 30 and no guy wants you, youl'll regret friend zoning good guys.

[Opinion Owner]

I found the guy for me at 19 thanks :') . I waited almost two years just being his friend when he said he wasn't ready for a relationship, even though it hurt, because even if i couldn't have him as a boyfriend i always want him in my life. Miraculously for me we ended up getting together after all; celebrated our two year anniversary of being together yesterday and we're moving in together in a couple of weeks ^_^

I'm getting that you feel very bitter but i just don't understand how you could give up having a friend you feel that way about in your life. It does come across as not appreciating them as a whole person

[Marinepilot]

Whatever. I have good reason to feel that way. If I'm romantically interested in a girl, I won't accept friendship. There are 4 billion women in the world, Why should I be friends with someone who shot me down? And listen to her talk about other guys? Fuck that shit ! Y You're very wrong. If a girl gets hurt because a man who wants to date her and rejects him, then he's under no obligation to be her friend. And I could care less if she gets hurt in the process. If that's mean, then so be it.

[Opinion Owner]

If you actually cared about her wouldn't you want her to be happy regardless of if she wanted to be with you? Seems like you only care about these women conditionally so no wonder they reject you :/

[Marinepilot]

No. I just don't have room for anymore friends. It works for me.

[Marinepilot]

I rarely get rejected. Boy you girls can dish it out, but you can't take it. I reiterate, women don't owe men friendship and men don't owe women friendship. Makes sense to me.

[Opinion Owner]

Sure you don't owe them friendship but to diminish friendship as a 'consolation prize' is very hurtful.

[Marinepilot]

So be it.

[Opinion Owner]

So, again; why would you want to hurt someone you like enough to want a relationship with?

[Marinepilot]

Because if I'm romantically interested I don't want friendship. Hear about the guys she's banging, and hear he complain incessantly about the douche she's dating. And then hear, "I wish I could find a guy just like you ". If she gets hurt because I refuse this, she's one selfish bitch. Any Alpha guy like me is above. We get dates, we're rarely friend zoned. And we have the guts to say "No fucking thank you". It's our choice. If the girls gets hurt, the I could care less. Any woman can be easily replaced. I should have known this in my teens and twenties.

[Opinion Owner]

See if you think that of someone I don't think you can have really felt for them in the first place. You're speaking about women as if we're a commodity for your to possess and bitches if we refuse, which is gross.

[Marinepilot]

Whatever. What Your opinion is wrong in so many ways. Friendship with someone I'm romantically interested is not acceptable. 4 billion women in the world. You are all expendable. NEXT !

[Opinion Owner]

If you love someone you don't see them as expendable. I don't see why anyone's carried on a relationship of any kind with you if that's hoe you view them

[Marinepilot]

I've had severa;. They know I don't BS. I'm not wrong.

[Marinepilot]

Because I'm strong and I never settle for less than I desire.

[Marinepilot]

Friendship is first loser. And I'll be dipped in shit if I'll be her emotional tampon.
Yet women expect guys to willing do this. And many do. Feminazis have emasculated American men to the point of them being dickless manginas. Take your offer of friendship and shove it sideways up your ass with Tabasco sauce.

[Marinepilot]

I couldn't care less about her. If she's hurt so what? You women have no concept how much rejection hurts. No wonder men retaliate toward women. Especially when you humiliate and reject us with that bullshit friendship. Frankly, I am cheering to guys on who hurt a rejecting
girl. Get it through your thick skull, reject us and we DON'T, repeat DON'T want to be your friends. We're not wrong, you are for being so naive as to think a quality man will accept this. ,

[Marinepilot]

No. if she isndoesn't want to date, it's over. I want nothing further to do with her. To me she's of no worth.

[Opinion Owner]

Good thing you're so 'strong' and not lashing out at strangers on the internet i guess. 'Cause your misogynistic crap should mean you remain alone for a good while xD

You treat women like mere warm holes then cry when we won't put up with it, and have such a fucked up view of your own gender that you think it's somehow shameful for men to carry on meaningful friendships. So this nonsensical bile you're coming out with is the closest you can come to expressing your feelings. It's a prison of your own making. I'd feel sorry for you if i had the time or energy to waste

[Marinepilot]

As usual your ignorance and stupidity is showing,

[Marinepilot]

And I don't give a good Goddamn what you think. Oh, I'm rarely if ever alone.

[Marinepilot]

Happy because she didn't pick me? You are so fuckind delusional. SShe rejects me then she's of no use or value to me. I have enogh friend. And I WON'T be her emotional tampon. Get real chichi !

[Marinepilot]

Or value. You are one blthering dumb ass to think this way.

[Anonymous]

It's more about emotional immaturity on both sides. It takes emotional maturity for a man to be polite and civilized after a rejection. Lots of guys don't handle it "well" but they get experience as they grow up.

The same goes for women. It takes emotional maturity for a woman to be alright with a guy who's not willing to piecemeal a relationship. A lot of women aren't comfortable with it but, unlike guys, they DON'T get a lot of experience with rejection like this during their lifetime - so it's a bit shocking to encounter.

[Marinepilot]

I can see that.

[Liam_Hayden]

Women aren't as accustomed to the rejection so they cannot deal with it.

As for the friendship part, I have made friends with women I dated and enjoyed, but the romance just was not there. If she immediately wants to be friends and I am interested in dating, I just go on to the next target. I have zero interest in being an emotional tampon.

[RolandCuthbert]

? You are not wrong. Tell the woman, friendship is not what you wanted or needed and move on.

I don't get it. If she becomes angry with you, why do you care?

[Marinepilot]

I don't care. I've had some women try to friend zone me and I alays say, "If I was intersted in being your friend, I wouldn't have asked you out. No, we can't be friends because that's not what I want or will accept. Bottom line, if we don't date, there will be no contact. Go find some
Momma's boy faggot who will be yoyr male girlfriend. Fuck you and good riddance",

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, you are 66 years old. Your days of being friendzoned were over 35 years ago.

[Marinepilot]

Actually it only happened once in my teens. It only lasted a month. I gave her an ultimatum, date me or bye. We dated for six months and I caught her in a lie. I gaslighted her bad and destroyed her. She had a nervous breakdown and I never felt one nanosecond of guilt. She claimed she didn’t talk to her ex. I found out she did. So I destroyed her. Cunt deserved it.

[Marinepilot]

Roland,

I can’t believe how today’s American men have become nutless manginas.
And somehow, women got the upper hand. And men are expected to accept whatever behavior women exhibit toward them. I never have. And never will. Thank you USMC.

[courtwake2]

Honestly because a friendship should not be seen as a consolation prize. It has enormous value. Think it hurts women to feel like they only have value one way. If we want to be friends we still want you in our lives otherwise we'd just ignore you.

[Marinepilot]

Conversely, if a man wants to be friends by the same token we let you into our lives.
If no, then we couldn't care less. And friendship is a consolation prize whenever a man
asks a woman out and she rejects him. Which as I stated earlier is her right. That said, whenever she rejects a man he has the right to so "No fucking thank you" to her friendship
and behave anyway he deems appropriate. If women want a little beta Momma's boy faggot
Mangina to be their male girlfriend , there are many guys who are so fucking desperate and weak who will do this. And let's see, listen to how hard they fucked, he eats pussy so well
and how he could be "The One". Oh, don't forget the drunken phone calls at 3:00 AM crying
about how Billy Joe Bad Boy or Paulie Prison record treat them like shit. I know the reason women offer friendship is because they get all the perks of a boyfriend without having give up sex. No how is that fair? That's fucked up. To me it's relationship or nothing.

[Marinepilot]

Am I'm not wrong.

[courtwake2]

Its your opinion but I value men and women if they wanna sleep with me or not

[Marinepilot]

I don’t. Women are easily replaced. I should have known that in my teens.

[Eskandra]

We say that coz we don't want to hurt the man that we rejected so we give him the right to stay close to us if he wanted to

[Marinepilot]

Any man worth his salt will say no thank you.

[Eskandra]

Alright sorry I guess I'm not the girl who told that

[Anonymous]

I just find it really odd to like someone enough to want to date them but yet have no interest in being friends with them.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

What's so difficult to understand about it?

[Opinion Owner]

I've just never had the desire to date someone I also wouldn't want to be close friends with. To me a significant other is not only supposed to be my romantic and sexual partner but my best friend.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

No self-respecting guy is gonna be a part of something that doesn't fulfill him.

[Opinion Owner]

If a friendship with someone is unfulling what makes you think a long-term relationship with them would be?

[FýrdracaDócincel]

It depends on what you want from that specific person.

[Marinepilot]

Different feelings. If I ever become interested romantically, there's no way on God's Green Earth that I would ever, ever want to "Just be friends". Ain't happening.

[Marinepilot]

You're not a man. You wouldn't understand.

[Marinepilot]

Why can't women understand this? You expect us to chuck our feelings and accept yours? No fucking thank you.

[Opinion Owner]

No, I find it odd for man or woman to be this way. Not just men.

[Marinepilot]

Because that's what everyone wants. Frankly, if a girl rejects me, I say goodbye and never talok to her ever again.

[Opinion Owner]

I wouldn't do that to a guy who rejected me.

[Marinepilot]

You need to.

[Opinion Owner]

If I consider myself friends with that person and enjoy being around them I don't see why I should cut contact. Yeah, I mean if he's a total asshole about it then I don't need that person in my life but if he's just not interested in a relationship with me then I would be okay with just being friends.

[Anonymous]

they are not just rape these sluts
you should really look into what these bitches are doing

they are trying to kill and imprison men
SO INCELS AND MEN in general go rape them

[lonelyabit]

Friendzone after 10 years and a child is the single most painful thing I've had to allow. Love is unconditional if it's real love

[Chthou95]

I can agree. Don't want to date? Fine. But i don't have to be your friend after getting rejected.

[AwesomeCookie]

@Marinepilot agreed.

[Jessicocoa]

Guess not. I personally wouldn't date a man I wasn't already friends with. It takes a long time for me to take a romantic interest in someone.

[JellyDonutguy96]

because of the side effects of Chivalry,

[Marinepilot]

My ass,

[Lance1965]

Another double-standard.