- Xper 5 Age: 30+1 y
Yes. I dated one that looked like Peter Kavinsky from To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before. This guy. I was attracted to his looks alone though then i started to realize how narcissistic he is hahaha
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That guy is alright looking
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@anon15
I am as good looking or better looking than him and I find it hard to get a date - +1 y
Date me if you’re above 25 lol
- Asker+1 y
I'm 19. We can be just friends
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Thanks so much for mho
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- Yoda Age: 26 , mho 55%+1 y
Yes but he can repel them just as quickly if he has an off putting attitude. I know some really attractive dudes who suffer romantically from a lack of certain social skills.
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I am like that, I am fairly handsome but don't have perfected social skills 😞 And so I've never dated anyone
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I'm sorry man. What do you think you need the most work on?
- Asker+1 y
I get anxiety about expressing to a girl I like her and escalating, making it clear I have feelings for her and flirting including by touch
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Yeah, that can be nerve wracking. Try to asses whether she's flirtatious or interested in you. We have our tells.
- Asker+1 y
I can gauge if she likes me but it's the touch part I have trouble doing, I don't want to come off wrong or weird
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Fair enough. I get awkward bout touch myself. As long as a guy isn't being rough or outright groping me, I actually take comfort in touch but it can be hard to tell who's comfortable with pda. When I was in high school I used to tense up even when family members hugged me, Now I'm a big hugger lol (PDA grew on me). I guess my best advice would be to outright ask whenever you meet someone you want to touch but aren't sure about.
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Like when you're leaving a hangout and a girl is clearly showing signs of interest, be like "can I get a hug goodbye?". That way she'll clearly say yes or no and you can gauge her comfort level with the thought of pda.
- Asker+1 y
You dont ask for a kiss or to hold hands, that's now how human relationships work is it? You just do it when the time is right and slowly when it seems comfortable and see if they reciprocate
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Well I'm not telling you to ask about kissing or holding hands, those are outright flirtatious forms of pda. Hugging can be just as platonic as it can be flirtatious and a girls comfort level with your touch can be assessed by asking for a hug in a way that won't make her feel pressured or "objectified". Especially, in case you read her attention wrong.
- Xper 5 Age: 25 , mho 36%+1 y
Definitely YES!
At first, but as she gets to know the guy, if the rest is off. Her interest will fade. Unless she's superficial and just wants to be seen with an attractive guy26 Reply- Asker+1 y
How good looking does he have to be you think?
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A good looking guy can attract A girl only by looks. A girl, not every girl.
No guy can attract every girl. Less so get any girl.
Yes you might be good looking, that helps, but that's not enough to keep most good looking girls. - Asker+1 y
What about girls who are not good looking?
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I think he has a better chance if the girl is not good looking , only if she doesn't think high of herself. She might think this is 'her chance'
Thanks for MHO!!! - +1 y
It's an honor to receive mho next to @coachTanthony
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Thanks dude that means a lot!
- Master Age: 53+1 y
Yes... most attraction in the beginning is looks but hopefully that dude has some personality because the girls I know have standards!
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You were right, friend-zone is the place you put yourself for not treating women as lovers.
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@es20490446e Did you disagree with me or something? I can't remember... but thanks! I mean in the end if men act like a friend they become one.
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@es20490446e
I like this logic - +1 y
No, I haven't disagreed with you. It's just that phrase was in the back of my mind, and put in practice it seems to work quite well.
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@Asker, than you. Although the merit goes to the coach.
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@es20490446e Gotcha cool man!
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Thanks to you ✌️
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Unfortunately, yes. I’ve seen guys with the most awful personalities and who treat girls like trash also be the most sought after simply because they were very attractive.
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I rarely see handsome guys in public, only in movies
He will definitely capture the attention of girls. His personality will decide whether or not we stick around.
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Can I get a girlfriend even if I am only 6-7/10?
- Asker+1 y
Thank god
- Master Age: 57 , mho 42%+1 y
He will get attention, but if he can't converse or convey good energy, he'll still win some girls, but most won't take him.
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How can I convey good energy?
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If you aren't there, then it just takes self development and training. the man needs to convey positive energy to the woman or he's toast. That energy comes from what you are thinking and your emotional state... self confidence, self worth, your view of your value you have to offer. Boost all that! Lots of great videos to review over rand over on this. A few tips that helped me get to a better state:
Learn the concept of "I don't give a F". releases you from trapped viewpoint and negativity and stop caring what others think.
Realize you probably have emotional love wounds that need healed, meditate on positive thoughts and replace those old wounds with positive.
Journal.. write out feelings, experiences and re-work truth into them.
Image - create image of yourself in a higher state, like model after another animal... pick one, write down that animals attributes and embody them. Ex. Elephant... confidence, strength, power, gentleness, etc.. Imagine that animal, embody those!
It's all inner work of self.. then you have something positive to give and they WILL FEEL that and respond better.
Go out and talk to people in positive ways, build a mental database of rapport... write it down... how it felt, what came up (deal with that crap), number how you felt... make a log of successes and build and build. Go out of your comfort zone (stress builds courage!) and don't fear failure, take the value and build experience.
... continued...
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Most of all for me, it is to have something to give. I always have things in mind I can share and start a conversation and entertain.
Take the thing that is above your shoulders and remove it, it's a mess. Shift your energy down to your heart and 3ft below that. That is much smarter stuff to connect to a female. Think out of that stuff. Female MUST know that you desire her, that's what she is trying to figure out. I know you think... creepy... no... when energy is right, she responds correctly. Fix stuff above first.
Then you can learn how to conclude this positive engagement to move the relationship forward.
They will still be females and test you and challenge. You must understand female psychology so study it and how to deal with them. They are that way for a reaosn, not going to change them, but once you realize how they are, do some training on how to handle and respond, will be 10x better off. Bottom line... they are looking for emotional strength! It's where most of us fail these days. They are better off not mating than having a weak mate,... think about their view, it makes sense.
lmk if that didn't cover it. I'll eventually write a take on workouts you can do for this
lmk if that helps, makes sense. - Asker+1 y
Is that test and challenge, sh*t test stuff real? If so, what's the point? And can't a girl just not do it as we get to know each other and trust each other? And do you think us guys are testing girls too? I wonder if we are. Maybe subconsciously. Yes, you should do a take on these things, that would be helpful.
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It is very real. They HAVE to do this to filter out those with emotional strength. They can't mate with 50 guys and raise 100 kids. They have to narrow down to one man who will stay with them even when they are difficult moody bit@3es, food is scarce, and the damn springs are hot... volcano gonna blow? What now? You pack and run... not be depressed cause your olive trees are failing! (Pompie!:) He will work to provide even when it is difficult and not break down emotionally... it's all about raising those kids over 30 years. It's hard, they know it over 50k years... the ones in the bars... they are the survivors.. rest died years ago. They will test you up front, they will continually test you at times to make sure you still love them. It isn't just the words but the EMOTION you convey that gets the message across. That is where you, and I had to grow... too in my head, had to get to the heart... then it works much better.
Now they choose Badboy... it's an error! They are emotional, they see the emotion they want, the fact he's a user gets lost.. they are not logical. I'd love to find a way to fix that... a lot of it is fathers building self esteem, but that's not enough... natural female attraction at 16-21 is for the hot guy... often, not always.
Watch cheergirl38139 out here as an example of another scenario, she will verbally/written chew the hell out of any male using her quick witted sarcasm. That's a deeper thing, but in my view still a test which will weed out only those with thick skin.
I'm not so sure guys test girls, haven't thought about that so much. I don't see it, do you? I've never challenged a girl? It is more that i figure out by my perceived value if I think it's worth it. e. g. had a girl throw herself at me, drunk, not too bad looking, I could have had what I wanted. But I know that is a heap of trouble, I don't mess with any drunk female, I know she was too aggressive, bad sign. I was right... she melted down 2hr later. - Asker+1 y
First off I don't even want kids. Second if a guy can be upfront a girl can be upfront about what she wants and her desires, it is her responsibility in a relationship. I really don't see the meaning in putting up with a girls tests just for sex, love is more important to me honestly. I'm going to find a girl who loves me for me and doesn't do that. No excuse for testing. And I am a fairly good looking guy also, so that should help. Or I can always become a bad boy as that seems to work alright
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That's fine you know what you want, curently.. r. I would have said the same you age (and changed it now.. too late). I'm not positive every one will test you.. only the ones with highest self confidence could do so.
Bad boy is easy way out, but not necessary... they are tested as well, they just know how to get around them. Be the best you, honestly, that is what the women are trying to challenge you to be. and they will challenge you in your relatinship if they see your potential beyond what you are living. It's a gift they give... the friction is necessary for growth. There's sweet/or healthy girls out here who may not test hard, I see them. but wouldn't know until meet them.
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I'll find one of the sweet and healthy girls. In fact I'll test for a sweet and healthy girl who doesn't test. And are you sure they test for you to live up to your potential? It doesn't seem like it comes from a good place
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They do. Women are all about the offspring and their protection. They can lose one easy... they want a guy who understands and can give them love... even when they are bitches... maybe you haven't experienced this yet... but their moods are awful! And a man that can love and care for her and respond to this... watch this: www.facebook.com/.../
They have few shots to get the best strongest offspring, they are goign to filter just like we filter for physical beauty. They know the game (makeup, clothes, look good), we seem to not know the game... it's emotional strength. There are girls who will go for "softer" guys, they prob feel more safe for whatever reason... maybe dad was soft, or he was mean and they rebelled against that. that prob what you want if you don't want to change, can't guarantee if she stays... because deep inside if you go depressed and energy drops when she bitches, she's gonna become insecure, then it goes bad. you may just have to date to learn. Look for girls here who are sweet and talk to them...
- Asker+1 y
Yeah I'll just go for one of the girls who had a soft dad or something and doesn't mind a soft guy, and we'll both make progress together
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that's fine. if you are saying though you don't think you can take a test from a woman... then you have a problem:) I'm telling you right now... the women are doing you a service who test you, but I know it doesn't feel that way. They are trying to grow you into a man. we (you and I ) used to go in the wilderness and deal with some tough crap, and sleigh a beast and make coats out of it and dinner. Our training now is... anti-training. As you go up the work ladder, you will need that emotional toughness. Or you can choose to stay where you are, which is what I did for many years.. no shame in that, ready when you are ready and you are sick of the old you. My shy introverted computer geek self worked fantastic for 15 years of work... then it caused problems. And I bombed with relationships, that was contributor. Let those women test you since you don't care about them at all, make it a workout! feel that pain... it should not exist, and that is the point!
keep in touch, but I don't know who you are. - Asker+1 y
No sane guy wants to decode a barrage of mental and emotional tests, that are manipulating him, like a game
- Xper 7 Age: 52+1 y
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
If a man is attractive, women (including the liars here) could watch him sexually assault an infant and STILL believe he's a great guy and want him desperately.16 Reply- Asker+1 y
Not true, that's not true for all women, but maybe for some, for good hearted women it's not
- Asker+1 y
Pathetic
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Sounds like you've gotten burned before
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@dmmmmm01888
That's what I was thinking - New +1 y
Actually it is very true, unfortunately. I worked with a girl that was 16 when she got with a 26 year old guy. She had 3 kids with him. Her mom accusex him of sexually assaulting her neice. Of course becauze she " loved" him said i know him better than that to think he would ever do something like that. To which i said he sought you out at 26 when you were only 16. Uhm there's your evidence right there. Of course that only pissed her off. And he denied, denied, denied till the cops started squeezing him. And then eventually he admitted it. Now he's in prison thank god. And this story does have a happy ending. She found a guy who accepted ber and her 3 kids ( her age btw). And they've been happuly married for about a decade.
But this just shows you how when a woman wants a guy/ has feelings for him all common sense goes out the window and they're not only willing to believe any lie but will willfully ignore any truth. - New +1 y
Yeah I get what you're saying. But that's how it is for young naive girls.
- Xper 7 Age: 20 , mho 30%+1 y
Of course. All girls are attracted to good looking guys.
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Lol girls have said I'm handsome and good looking before on online dating and a guy I knew said I could model, and a lyft driver said I have a good face, but I still don't think I'm at the good looks level. How good looking does he have to be?
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If people tell you that then you must really be good looking. I always have a crush on guys with a handsome/pretty face as long as you aren’t short then you’re just perfect.
- Asker+1 y
Wow fuck that's prejudiced, yes I am I'm only 5'6 to 5'7 that's probably why I don't get a lot of in real life attention, but yeah facially I am like a 7/10, maybe 7.5 at my best
544 opinions shared on Dating topic. That's what catches the eye in the first place, absolutely.
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But a good personality makes him a keeper...
- Asker+1 y
Thank god I am above average in looks
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9teen I agree with this. I can't be into a guy if I'm not physically attracted to him. They have to have both. Looks and personality. I won't be with a guy who is nice, but has an unattractive physique, basically not my type. And I won't be with a guy who is gorgeous on the outside, but has the personality of a brick wall.
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@dmmmmm01888
It's over for me. Where can I find a girl who will? - +1 y
Asker, sorry just saw this. Unfortunately, I don't know. That's not easy to find. This is coming from someone whose been in three unsuccessful relationships. I can't really help you.
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@dmmmmm01888
Well you are right, I am handsome but need to work on my personality. How can I start? Any ideas would be appreciated
Definitely that's usually how attraction first starts off
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But some girls care more for personality?
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Yeah I know that but here's a example. If your in a bar you see two different girls smiling at you. Ones like a 10 super pretty and the other well she's pretty plain looking. Which one you going to be first attracted to. Maybe done the line you'll realise the plain looking girl has a great personality and you like her better but if it came to purely just attraction alone the really pretty girl would probably get your attraction first but then she maybe a horrible person and you brake up with her. What I'm trying to say is that looks are usually the first things that attracts people but down the line you have to have a good personality
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I see, and if a guy has a good face that helps him
- Asker+1 y
Great, now all I need is to work on my inner confidence and personality
I mean, that's what usually happens in high school.
05 Reply- Asker+1 y
And later in life too, I hope to be that
- Asker+1 y
I just need a nose job and I will be turning heads
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Serious, I will be
- Xper 5 Age: 36+1 y
Young girls yes, but older women, not so much. The more I get to know the guy, I start seeing he's a total tool making him waayy less attractive
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Yeah same I kind of get that with girls
11K opinions shared on Dating topic. Sure, but if they have a shitty personality the girls won't stick around.
00 Reply- Xper 7 Age: 28+1 y
Absolutely. Looks opens the door, and depending on what she wants, it can be the only thing she cares about.
In most cases his personality is what will determine if she stays or not, though.00 Reply 460 opinions shared on Dating topic. yes, lift weights and make mad face, you will look like bad boy alpha male and ull get pussy. Work 100%
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I have good face but weak body, but yeah don't see many alphas around
- Anonymous(18-24)+1 y
Its what people see first, so ya it attracts. Yes personality matters, but thats way after the attraction.
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Do you think a girl could love a boy who looked like an alien?
- Opinion Owner+1 y
Sure dude sure
- Asker+1 y
lol sure
No looks and money you need both and a car and a good job
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You need a lot
- Asker+1 y
Sounds shallow
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Well that’s how women are. Think about it do men every say you have to be above 6ft to date me lol or have a check list. Men never ask what job you have on the first date , because we actually care about the person and not how much they make. We don’t ask what car do you drive and judge them if they have a bad car or don’t drive. Only women do that shit so they can show off to other women saying look my boyfriend is rich
- Asker+1 y
You need to find a good woman
Looks will be apart of it but if the personality don’t match up then it can go straight down
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I agree
- Yoda Age: 30+1 y
Yes. But can he keep them interested is a whole new question.
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The boys new hairstyles every day will keep the girl interested
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That's too much money spent on something that won't work in a long run.
- Asker+1 y
Why not?
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It's too superficial. Girls get attracted to looks but if she doesn't like your personality too, she won't stick around.
- Asker+1 y
True, a combo of looks and personality is good
- Anonymous(25-29)+1 y
Very unlikely since most women aren't visual beings.
02 Reply- Asker+1 y
Well I thought you were, many girls comments talk about liking handsome guys first
404 opinions shared on Dating topic. Initially yes. But once they get to know the person that can change.
03 Reply- Asker+1 y
Do you think a girl will like me?
- Asker+1 y
Because I want to be good enough for one girl
1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. If you are in the 8-10 scale of attractiveness, yeah.
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I am almost an 8, 7 to 7.5 I would say. Think anything above a 6 is good for girls and guys
- Asker+1 y
What do you mean?
- Asker+1 y
So there's no objective 8/10?
- Xper 7 Age: 19+1 y
Yes, its one of the first things you notice about that person
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Do you think a girl would like me?
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Yeah
- Asker+1 y
I am alien looking
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