Will ladies have to DATE down in order to score a forever partner in 2020? (Page 2)
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I’ve always held high expectations for my own self income, so I never minded if a guy has a more modest income as long as he’s not leeching.
I’d rather date a broke gentleman than a rich asshole anyway.
Unrelated but, where on earth are these dislikes from? Isn't this the kind of stuff men want to hear?
Swat agreed
@Justtoobusy The typical narrative is women like assholes so they just don't believe her.
What's sad is 90% of the assholes believe they are a nice guy
@Justtoobusy Ha Ha Ha no doubt!
I get a lot of dislikes from men I’ve rejected on here.
Depends on what you consider "dating down"? Most very attractive men i've dated has been assholes, honestly. In the end i'd rather date someone average with a good heart. As for economics etc. I recently rejected a man with a lot of money because he acted like he thought he could buy me - Offering me crazy expensive gifts etc when we hardly knew each other. That's not sane to me and should be sort of insulting and off to anyone with a brain. As long as my partner works i'm good, and as long as he helps out around the house. I'm not looking for a lavish lifestyle anyway but you gotta have an income.
I'm seeing the current generation of young people shift the culture of breadwinners in the household. Some of it is because companies are pushing the hiring of women and minorities and some of it is men just have become lazy with no work ethic. I'm sure every generation has said this at some point but most guys I see in there 20s are the most entitled worthless generation I've ever seen. I feel like women are going to have to start marrying man children at some point because that's all that will be left...
It makes sense. The economy is in the shitter. Middle class people have much less buying power nowadays compared to a few decades ago. The number of people living paycheck-to-paycheck is staggering. Most people want to have some economic security when going into a marriage. If a woman wants her husband to provide economic security nowadays, she will have a difficult time finding a man who is qualified to fill that role because most people are struggling to get by.
Interesting points! Dating is like a buffet anymore... you like that slice of London Broil but 5 minutes later you are at the mac n cheese and that now takes your focus!
Yes :P
Back in your day woman stayed at home or worked as typists and the like. It was easy to date up. Now that more women are in better jobs, often better than many men, it isn't so easy. There used to be a tv advert where this group of attractive successful business women flirted with the waiter. In reality that would never happen. We'll date slightly down but this report just gives guys false hopes.
Lol who told you women are at better jobs than men?
I said hold better jobs not better at jobs. I suppose your the type of guy who looks down at female doctors as being beneath you then spends his nights humping his pillow wondering why girls reject him.
I said at better jobs not better at jobs. Lol I just fuck and leave them. Don't even see her getting up and cleaning herself.
I guess you are just some another man hating cunt
No I love men, I just don't view you as a man
Im really not interested in knowing your whatever definition of men.
You were to tell me how women are at better jobs. Don't change the topic
According to Scripture you are way off target. Millions of men are going MGTOW world wide and many of them including myself (33 years) are MGTOW Monks. This is what the future reality looks like.
Isaiah 4: In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, “We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!”
@Alex just open your eyes and look around. There are women in all professions, many women including myself have men working under them. Also it's IN better jobs not AT better jobs which is different from better at.
@ThisAndThat lifes too short to be bitter and twisted. Half the worlds population is female, hating them because you got butthurt 33 years ago isn't healthy
@purple well that doesn't show anything. Open your eyes and see around, most of executives are guys. And average man is earning more. I don't know why you want to live in dreams that you are better than men.
Just look around you rn, say you are in a room, your bed bulbs table chairs pillow blanket even your bra fabric and that phone with you wrote this was invented by a man.
Nobody is arguing that we're better then men. I'm merely pointing out that MANY women are IN better jobs than MANY men these days. And yes MANY woman are better AT their jobs. I take it education and logic weren't a huge part of your upbringing and being beaten by a younger girl like myself must be hard to take.
To being with the hating you're pointing the finger in the wrong direction. #AllMenAreRapist #BelieveAllWomen #KillAllMen those belong to women, their invention, not men's. And as for the majority of men not having good jobs goes, that's because feminist advocate to allow immigrants to come take their jobs away aiding the gov to do exactly that instead of standing with their own countrymen.
Oh dear, were you outcompeted for a job by someone who barely speaks the language? Immigrants take the jobs the locals are either too stupid or too lazy to do.
Immigrants take jobs that locals are too stupid to do or are too lazy to do? And you believe that BS? You happen to be talking to someone who literally had to take a shit low paying no skilled job as he had to SIT in the same complex directly across from the ILLEGALS that broke into his county and stole his job, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING, RIGHT NOW. I completely lost my craft to those invading bastards. And then I've sat and watched at these scum traitor lowlife devil tongue Serpent NWO puppet politicians tell like after lie after lie saying we men don't want those jobs. That's why we want the F***** wall so we can rightfully reclaim what's rightfully OURS.
Purple, you are younger than me? I think we can see now who didn't get logic in upbringing. I mean are you literally that dumb? You haven't given any logic in those useless paragraphs. And you said I'm not arguing women are better but then said no they are better at their jobs. Wtf. Men are at most executive jobs. Again, Men average income is more bc they are more skillful. You were probably fucked in the head as a child that took your brain out and filled the jizz in your empty skull.
Ic by dating down you mean dating an average male then yes. How horrible that aversge women will have to date average men, how dare the lazy men not work themselves into an early grave supportung their wifes lifestyle? How dare they not work hard to make every one of her dreams come true? Now women might actually have to earn the things they want and that would sinply be unjust.
If by dating down*
No they don’t. I base my dating choice based on what I can offer. I can offer a lot in a relationship therefore a partner who is equal to that.
Can I ask you a question
If you are a woman in 2020 who has a degree, makes 80k a year, financially stable and secure, you are saying that the guy must be equal to that or above? If not then you would be dating down.
@coachTanthony, that is exactly what most women in that situation think and generally imply or make clear in their online dating profiles.
@Avicenna Exactly and they will have to date down in 2020 due to the lack of equal contributions if they want the forever partner but are they willing to do so? Or will they be more worried about what others think of them by doing it?
That's exactly the problem. They might be willing to, but they're going to get earful from their friends and family if they do.
To be fair, there are enough instances of a guy being financially dependent on his girlfriend for a woman to want to avoid that sort of situation, but I think she'd still avoid that if he can cover his bills. Some of it is lifestyle differences- a guy might not earn as much as her and still be OK because he doesn't spend anywhere near as much, yet she may still be uncomfortable that he can't splurge on a fancy vacation with her like she can.
I would assume if they did they had no self respect and were just giving in because the whole “biological clock” thing.
Kind of sad but I've seen it with both women and men.
Women in the workforce drives wages down for everyone.
Same is true for immigrants, and most women vote for open borders while they're at it.
I don’t think most will. Those who can’t date horizontal or up financially will stay single and share the same set of attractive but poor guys for hookups with other women.
That said there are places where women are outnumbered by single men with good jobs so moving to one of them is in some ways the “smart” move.
People are rarely aware how much the single male-female ratio deviates by city.
A fairly significant number will have to, but it requires some adjustments to work.
Expectations need to be rolled back a bit, and the broke guys need to disciplined in theit financial affairs and lifestyle.
I think it can work if there is mutual respect and they guy earns enough to pay his bills and take her out some of the time.
Males in the US have been much harder hit by deindustrialization, mass immigration, and offshoring.
So the goodness is looks aren't that important to women.
Yeah that's true. I can confirm that
good news* not goodness...
Ha maybe !
Not necessarily! Confidence does a lot, so does good humor, charm and sharing the same values. Those things can make a man more attractive in my opinion and other womens too!
@gucciana That sounds nice, but finance is a fundamental issue for many relationships.
True but it's different from person to person. For me personally I don't care how much money a man has, just as long as we both have enough of an income that we don't have to constantly struggle to live.
@gucciana If your outlook was the norm, that study would not exist.
I've read what other's have said and I am basically very depressed but not surprised. Women base a successful relationship on how much a guy earns and how wealthy he is which is really depressing. There's big difference between providing for your family but having to have certain qualifications or earning power just to get a date this really sad. So what if guy earns less than woman surely it's about how the guy treats a woman not how wealthy he is... I despair for the future!!!
Most would rather be single instead of dating someone they think is below them.
"Human females engage in hypergamy. Women mate across and up dominance hierarchies, men mate across and down. The socio-economic status of a woman determines almost zero of her attractiveness to a man where as the socio-economic status of a man is a major determinant of his attractiveness to a woman." - Jordan Peterson
I'm not settling but sounds sucky if others are. If anything I'll just be a sugar momma someday 🤣.
Ya, I don't think people should be compromising their values, but a shitty economy has made it more difficult for one person to provide all the financial stability in a family.
@Guardian45 I don't expect anything more then I can bring to the table as well
Are you rich?
I am not worried if he makes as much as me but I won't date someone who does not work at all. There is something very erotic about a man with pride that only comes from being able to at least support himself.
I can offer a lot in a relationship, so should he. My expectations are high for myself already and I expect my significant other to be hard working as well.
Agreed!
I don't tell them about money.
That's like putting raw meat in front if a vampire for some of them.
If she was only with me for the money she later found out I didn't have, then that's her fault.
She shouldn't be so materialistic.
Lesson learned for her I guess. LoL.
I’m so happy being single. It really is the best.
Yassss!
I agree , I wonder if women and men are really that compatible at all !!
Maybe no one want you that's why
@alex_x988
What an insult coming from a 19 year old. Haha.
Did someone recently break up with you because they don’t want you which has made you jaded against independent, successful women? Or does it kill your ego that no one wants you because you still live with your parents?
It's none bc i just fuck, don't love.
And damn I triggered your loner ass hard that you wrote whole para
33 years a MGTOW Monk as of this August. I don't regret not having the other half, I only regret never having children of my on.
@FatherJack It's the over developed ego, and underdeveloped true self that are incompatible. Most people cannot tell ego apart from true self.