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692 opinions shared on Dating topic. That depends. I would be up front about it, as for the guys it would be a dealbreaker for would be crushed to know later on you can't have kids. At the same time, I'm "one of those guys" and knew I wanted kids in a relationship early on. Instead of leaving when we were having trouble making babies, after about a year of trying, both of us went to a fertility clinic to see what might be going on, long story short, science is amazing and there were medicines she could try before getting into more extreme options and we have two daughters now. On the flip side, a lot of guys don't want kids and could see that as a bonus of never having to worry about you skipping a pill, or worrying about your health from an ectopic pregnancy from an IUD. Really it's going to depend on the guy, and approaching it sooner rather than later. Don't be insecure because you're infertile, I think something like 10% of the population is anyway. There's a good chance you might get with a guy who is infertile himself, also a good chance one of the ones who wants kids can't produce them without 10s of thousands of dollars and a biopsy of a testicle, because that's the male treatment to infertility. Thank god I don't have to worry about that lol. Just date normally and think of it as you would herpes, yes, it's an issue related to sex, one you'll deal with life long, but it isn't deadly, and it's pretty easy to deal with when you really think about it.
On a separate note, I'm really sorry to hear that if you did want to have kids :(00 Reply
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Well, you are speaking of two different things. Infertility is one thing. Not wanting children is quite another.
In terms of the former, if I had met my girlfriend and we had discovered that she could not have children, I would have been saddened but I never would have left her. I love her with all my heart.
Maybe we would have considered adoption or something. As it is, we have lived together for over a decade - we don't want to be married - and we have three children that we love with all our hearts. It is not too strong to say that they add a special magic to what we already share.
Suffice to say, that points to the second issue. If the woman I was with did not want children, we might go on and date for a while, but there would be almost no chance of it becoming anything in the long term. In that sense, it would be a "dealbreaker."
Not even necessarily because of her veiws of children per se, though as you can tell, I love children and arguably suffer from a case of "Baby Fever." Rather, because it suggests that we would not share certain basic values and life goals. That would not suggest a long term happy relationship and therefore we would part company amiably and frankly it would likely cut the relationship short if not preclude it altogether.10 Reply
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As far as infidelity goes i guess i always told myself that it is going to be a deal breaker however, the circumstances were such that i had, due to the lack of female acquaintances to an extent, stayed around and now it's a whole different perspective I'm living through. I never thought that a certain situation would change my outlook from a loud categorical no to a sad "who cares, i just want her to be ok". Honestly I dont think any of us can truly relate to one another when it comes to directly seeing the situation for how it must feel to wear it and walk in its footsteps. I have a girlfriend who had recently went into a manic episode and didn't come out of it for 3 weeks at this point. Over the summer it was for 2 months. I've been with her off and on for 3 years and its been very tough and painful because for some reason i can't hate this girl or ignore her. She always had a medication dependency, actual and personally prescribed. She quit most the stuff and had recently, as i stated, declined in mental state stability and awareness, paranoia increased and who was once a person i spend a lot of time with is looking at the nothingness of the space around her, mumbles to herself, doesn't talk nor pay attention much, is sometimes happy sometimes sad but in her own world. doesn't call nor pick up my phone calls. Then suddenly she would snap out of it and of course this is what we are waiting for now to hopefully try and stabilize her mood somehow but just as suddenly it goes away, it can come back the same and usually does within a couple of days. So infidelity was painful at the time, yet meaningless in retrospect and in her life as well as mine, i honestly just want her to be ok. I want her to come out of her state and never think about anything to be sorry for and hopefully never resort to drugs which were the main reason for this infidelity to begin with. I no longer hurt when i think of her because my brain matches that thought with some fuck boy she cheated with, i feel an even worse and heavier grip on my chest now that i associate the thought of her maybe never being able to be herself again with her family, whoever, me, doesn't matter. Just fails in comparison, maybe im too nice, maybe i need to get laid, maybe im a sucker. Too many maybes which i dont care to look into. I just wish she could be herself again. I am 34 years old and she is 27. People want to be nice and loyal as i see from my interactions with different individuals. Only that life takes us on a ride through unexpected, psychologically and emotionally draining roller coaster. And after high school nowadays most young adults feel like they had enough and cover our true feelings. Until its no longer uncool to be who you are and sadly at this point in my life thats the stage I've been in for a while and i can care less about cool or uncool. I just want to know my friend is ok. I'll adopt whoever the people will allow or choose if only she could come out of the state she is in.
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+1 yPerhaps if a man really wants kids, but if he truly loves you, he will likely stay. There are other options a couple can use if one or both partner (s) is/are infertile, aside from adoption - in-vitro fertilization, artificial insemination, and surrogacy are but a few of them. I'm sure your man would much rather take care of a kid that he himself helped conceive, but I know a lot of future parents do choose this route as a last resort.
Also, you need to take into account that most women are more fertile on certain days, usually during ovulation, which is usually a couple weeks before "that time of the month", but that can vary from person to person. If your husband/boyfriend/whatever manages to catch you at such a time, I think you can still get pregnant. Something you might want to try if you're both hell-bent on having kids. :)
Keep a close eye on the fetus if you choose to conceive in this way though. I've heard of unborn children conceived like this dying inside the womb or developing mental illness during pregnancy. I'm not sure if that's actually true or not, but it's something to keep in mind just in case.10 ReplyYES. I dated the perfect woman. Impossible you say? I mean everything she put her mind to, she was able to do. She was creative, intelligent, and industrious. All the traits I seek in a partner, but when I learned that she had an operation to ensure that she could no longer bring children into the world, it just ripped me.
It wasn't long before I had to tell her that I was no longer interested in planning a lifeless life with her. We were even buying a house together and I canceled the contract.
The woman that I did eventually marry gave me four wonderful children that I love dearly, but then she turned around and without even consulting me did the same thing.
She became a fat, loveless pig and kicked me out of a house that I built with me own two hands. I mean a 1/2 million dollar house that she now owns.
I'm not bitter, but why would anyone do this to themselves?
It's like women that I've heard of who have their breasts surgically removed because they might get breast cancer.
I don't even know how, as a man, to respond to this insanity.
Ladies, you are what dreams are made of. Please stop killing them.12 Reply
Asker+1 yI don't know where to start. I wish you had stayed with that first lady. You guys could have found other ways to have kids. I am one of those ladies who would get my tubes tied. Many men dont stick around and hate paying child support. I dont want any drama plus kids are annoying. Ill consider being around them when they get mature which feels like an eternity.
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@JimmyQ I would not dare think about loosing my testicles to some nonsense because I want my sperms flow. Sure the supportive money thing (#Unterhalt) has gone beyond the original intentions. But back to topic, I love my own child more than others because she (daughter) is "me" a lot, everyone seeing us together says that she looks "like" me (not boyish for sure!). And tying tubes (to prevent the female cell from becoming fertilized) is plain wrong, for me too. I made with my then-girlfriend, now-ex-wife a lot unprotected love, I came many often inside her pussy and she didn't became #pregnant because we (yes, "we", I helped her a lot) prevented it by flushing it out. Now my 3 years old daughter is there and boy how much do I love her!
+1 yNo, infertility is not a deal breaker for me. Everyone has a right to decide how they wish to live their life. On the same note, the very same right extends to women that do decide to have children, so no. Because one does not like the appearance of a pregnant woman, doesn't mean that woman has to be locked up. Psychologically speaking this repulsion you have towards pregnant women is something you should look into. No need to say it here, I'm just saying that the only thing that can top a good answer is a better question.
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Asker+1 yyou're right
+1 yYes, it is.
Part of wanting a marriage for me has to do with wanting children.
My dream is to have a family with 5-6 children.
So infertility is a deal breaker.
Also, for the update, no man WANTS to raise another mans child. Its cool to be a teacher or a mentor, but we dont eanna be the father to a kid that's not ours. Its our biological imperative to produce as many children as we can. Raising someone elses child just wastes our time, wealth and energy which could have gone to our own children.03 Reply
Asker+1 yWould you be okay with your lady using an egg donor and your sperm?
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I dont know. I could only answer that if i was in a relationship
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Tbh i think that would be more uncomfortable for her than to me.
I am unable to have kids, shotting blanks.
It is an extremely heart braking realization to come to. That you will never father you're own kids. But it's not the end of the world. There is adopted and other options.
Some people do allow the pressure of the situation to get in the way of the love of being with each other and end the relationship other find a deeper more fulfilling life with each other20 ReplyNo, not at all.
Plenty of kids up for adoption. If that was the only acceptable road then why not. Who cares about bloodline. Help keep kids from being broken and you live forever in them.
But an infertile woman? Again nope not a deal breaker. Instead it's good, she doesn't need fancy bullshit meds to regulate her period or to avoid getting pregnant. Stuff like that is a major relief. You can just both be you and have fun. :D10 ReplyI'm 41 and my ex of 3 years couldn't have kids because she had a partial hysterectomy when she had her first kid. We talked about kids when once we were very close but that would have cost me at least $50,000 just to start the process. I've always wanted kids, but was waiting for the right time. I thought shew was the one until she cheated on me. She was with her ex husband for over 20 years. I was her second boyfriend over that time. She cheated on her husband and then she cheated on me. So basically every relationship she's had in over 20 years, she's cheated on the guy. Yep, breaks my heart and I thought we would spend the rest of our lives with eachother. Once a cheat, always a cheat. I don't look my age and I'll find someone else. What comes around, will go around with her.
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Asker+1 ySorry to hear what happened to you. People can be so evil. Im glad that you recognize that you deserve the best. Much love and respect to you on your new journey. Im pretty confident that you will find your lady very soon. Good luck.
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Thanks. I will and it does suck that stuff like this happens. I never thought something like this would have happened to me, but it did. I responded to this question because I never used anything against her, because I thought she was someone who I felt i could spend the rest of my life with.
Asker+1 yItll make you stronger and the best is yet to come. Dont lose hope.
432 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think your opinion on locking up pregnant women is a bit much. But to answer your question; no. Infertility is not a deal breaker for me. I personally don't want kids for a number of reasons. So it would actually be a bit of a relief to find more women who felt the same way (about not wanting children).
10 ReplyIf I love her, and we have a great relationship, but she cannot have children, why is that a 'deal-breaker' to any caring person? I can't imagine how she might feel, and with social pressures, saying she should, and have children.
I say, PISS OFF!! I love her, and I think she is just a wonderful woman, and so what, if she can't? So many young kids, needing loving parents, and a family, and what if the Fates made her unable, just to find, and adopt a great kid someone couldn't, or didn't want?10 ReplyI dont want kids. Ever.
Soooo if anything, that's a bonus for me.31 Reply
Asker+1 yWe dont want kids plus we are the same age. We're a match :)
+1 yNo it ain't long as you have love for each other. And there's a lot of children out there that need good homes with a lot of love and caring
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I have to add this to this I have a son that his biological father when he was 4 just disappeared didn't come see him I remember that day it was his fourth birthday he stood on the couch look out that window all day long. Just waiting for his dad. He didn't call no explanation. I felt so bad for my son that day. That once I was married to his mother. I found the a****** and made him sign the papers and let me adopt him he is not my biological son but I love him with all my heart he has my last name you don't have to be a sperm donor to be a great father.
Asker+1 yAww that is so sweet. May your family continue to maintain a healthy relationship. I wish you all the very best. :)
+1 yUnfortunately it could be, like if we just met and I was looking for something serious, to find that out early on might make me reconsider. But if we were together for a while and already in love and you found out you couldn't have children then I don't think I would leave
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+1 yTo be honest I dont want children either. But if you or I or both of us were infertile. I wouldn't care. Life is about knowledge and happiness. I'm happy knowing at the very least, I dont have to do this alone. So no infertility, if anything is just another thing that some have. If you change your mind, like people are saying, adopt. I'd rather share with my knowledge with a forgotten child than to have it and never tell a soul. At least that child has a better chance.
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+1 yHonestly, it's not a deal breaker at all since adoption is an option. Also, that's a pretty shallow, and no offense, sounds a bit immature. In the event you want to expand your bloodline, you will need to buckle down and so what all you can do to make that happen. However, what you do in the future is up to you.
00 ReplyThe complete opposite, that's my opinion! I love kids, the more the merrier, I've not broke the news to my girlfriend that I would like 4 but I'm looking forward to her reaction and negotiating...
Also I love the way women look when they are pregnant, they have that motherly glow 😇10 Reply
+1 yWell you are not alone in thinking it's gross. I have met a few women who feel the same as you but locked up is a bit extreme. That being said I think it's amazing woman have the ability to give birth but have given up on having kids. Largely because people are just getting stupider and I can't imagine what will be next and don't want to raise a child in this world. So no infertility is not a deal breaker for me.
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Well depends on the person
I think China is more focused on continuing family businesses and bloodline so they might focus on fertility that's why in China countryside people sell kidnapped girls as wives
But modern world I don't think so cause love is love and there's also those people who want hook up with 0 risks00 Reply
+1 yProbably better tbh cause you can cum and run without being held hostage to child support 🤣🤣🤣
Ok in all seriousness for guys that want kids it's probably not ideal but if you're both getting older they probably know you may not get a child conceived naturally.00 Reply- 920 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yDepends what stage of life I'm in. Right now i have no interest in having kids, so it could even be a plus. In future I don't know if my priorities might change. But if push came to shove, if i wanted kids but she couldnt give me them, I imagine I'd likely stand by her side regardless. Can always explore alternative options for baby making if we were so inclined-- surrogate mother for instance.
00 Reply Hell no!!! Infertility or not wanting children is a huge turn on for me
I don't want a baby crying at 2 am, wasting tons of money in diapers, not having time with your partner, etc20 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI wouldn't say it's a deal breaker for me but it's definitely something I'd have to think long and hard about. I do know there are some guys that a woman not wanting kids is the perfect match for them as they never want to have kids themselves. So, as long as your honest and upfront on where you stand you will eventually find someone that is willing.
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+1 yNo, it's not. But you didn't say you were infertile. You said you didn't like kids. They are two different things.
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Re: update: I can have kids naturally, but I'm not against adopting. I wouldn't be too keen on adopting a kid that belongs to another dude, though. That's his responsibility, not mine.
Asker+1 yCool
For me it isn't, i have two kids from a previous martiage, but if she would have the wish to have a child i can imagine that you can get in a very rocky situation.
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+1 yFor me it is. I would like to be a parent. As for locking pregnant women up in cages, that isn't your place to decide (I'm sure you're aware of that). It might not be the most attractive sight; neither was your mother when she was pregnant with you! It's selfish not to become a parent!
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Asker+1 yHow can that be selfish though? There are lots of kids in the world without a home.
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Taking into account differences in birthrates globally, people in western countries (e. g., Canada, the United States, Japan, China, and most European nations) are having kids at a rate below the replacement level. The problems that accompany birthrate isn't in westernized countries.
Asker+1 ySo basically the world is doomed if they have a high African population? Even though its the largest continent...
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African and Middle-Eastern populations are ballooning. Economically, Africa can't sustain it's own population. The 2011 East African drought came a generation after Live Aid rose money to help alleviate poverty in Ethiopia, not far from where the East African drought struck. On top of that, there's considerable political corruption concerning the flow of migrants into Europe. Are you naive enough to think the population growth in Africa is sustainable? Something tells me the money sent to support poverty alleviation initiatives in Africa won't go to the people these programs are purported to help. My motivations aren't ethnically-based. It's more a question of practicality.
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Asker+1 yRacist
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You could cry "RACISM" all you want. There are certain realities, however, that exist. People claim "Postal Code Discrimination" in the Canadian province of Ontario because people in the city pay higher insurance premiums than anywhere else in the country. The issue with that type of an argument is: insurance is predicated on risk assessment. The loss history in Brampton is considerably higher than anywhere else in the country. Of course, the demographics being the way they are in Brampton, people are claiming people from "ethnic minority backgrounds" are discriminated against based on racial bias. Crying racism isn't a substitute for an argument sweetheart.
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I'm talking about the City of Brampton with my previous comment. And the purpose of the comment is to illustrate a point that crying "racism" isn't a suitable rebuttal to disprove my points.
It really does depend on your relationship. I for one, at this point in my life would not care if the woman was infertile. I would actual prefer it. Just be up front and honest and everything will turn out ok.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yInfertility is a deal breaker, if she has kids that's a deal breaker too. Infertility can be related to girls and poor health. Obese women will have a much harder time being pregnant since hormones are out of whack. So it doesn't help with the "body positivity, yas kween!" mentality. Men don't want to raise other men's kids because it's not theirs and men don't want to come along halfway in a race that women have clearly already run before
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+1 yAccording to me, not having kids of our own is not a big deal. There are kids in this world who do not have parents or someone to love them. If I knew that me and my other couldn't bring new life into this world, we'd choose to adopt kids and make their life better than they have right now.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo, there are plenty of guys who don't even want kids, and a man who loves you will accept whatever the reality of your health dictates.
As far as not liking kids, I didn't like kids either until I held my son. I was always scared of getting a girl pregnant, and I was upset when my girlfriend told me she was. Now, I thank god that she did, because it changed my life for the better.00 Reply- 1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI know I should assume you're making a poor attempt at a joke with that last comment but I can never tell anymore with people...
But I'm not sure I even wsny children or SHOULD have children. So it wouldn't be a deal breaker.01 Reply
Asker+1 yBased on how you started, I thought you were going to say that you definitely want kids. I wasn't joking by the way. As a child i hated seeing it but i dont want the moms feeling bad either.
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