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I mean, my grandpa married my grandma. he passed away last year, we believe it was covid but he had other problems so it likely just weakened him to the point where the virus was just too much for him, as most people who get it, wind up ok after a few days
However, SHE, i was talking to her the other day about how the indians (tribe), are changing their name because, supposedly, after 100 years, of the same name, it's now "offensive". I'm all about woke culture but, i mean, 100 years? NOW, it took TRUMP, for them to change the name, ONE HUNDRED YEARS
Anyway, that's not the point. the point i was making, was i was talking to her the other day about it and we start getting in to the confederacy and the union (civil war) here in the u. s. the confederates are the bad guys, since they were the ones who wanted to keep slavery.. but, my grandma, who of course is a republican (republicuck as i like to call them), didn't understand that the confederacy, was the bad people. the two parties swtiched sides, after 1964 when johnson signed the civil rights act (citing, "he and the party just lost a generation). my grandma had a hard time understanding that im jewish (she's roman catholic) but she eventually learned to accept it.. she also didn't understand why one of my white cousins, was at one point dating a black woman (back when he was a democrat), he recently became a republicuck (can't stand him now for it). i mean, i love her and all but, my dad, who was in the room with me (and his mother, my grandma), looked at each other when she said she didn't know if the confederacy was the bad or good guys, and we're thinking, "wtf". I didn't know how to answer it, and my dad had to explain it to her in a way that didn't "upset her" (being a republicuck after all)
Anyway, im not saying your morals have to be right with who are you what you believe in, but, like, at least know what you're defending, right?
A lot of trumpsists, think trump is god. They didn't do their homework. Or if they did, they don't care and still like him anyway
Yes men like intelligent women. What they don't like is overbearing cocky, arrogant or know it all women. However intelligence is not as huge factor for them i. e. its a bonus but not a necessity and if she is overbearing with it, it can be a turn off (no one wants some one who treats them like they are stupid all the time).
Personally, being a brainy person myself, I require it in a woman. I was never particularly good in school but that was ironically due to me wanting to learn not be dictated to (and I was busy reading and studying other things that I found more interesting then what school was teaching). So it also matters in that way, that is do you think that being good at school or having gone to college or that college makes you better then others (the curse of a little intellect is a massive ego and little wisdom I have found. That too can be off putting).
So in short, most men want a some what intelligent woman, some men who are also intellectually driven want an equally intellectually driven woman but how she wields her intellect matters more then her having it or not.(which is also true for most relationships not just romantic ones).
I strongly think that men will say they value smartness in a woman, but at the same time, they don't actually want her to be:
1) smarter than him
2) smarter than his social circle
3) 'logically smart' because then they'll view her as emotionally deficient for wanting to be right in an argument over wanting to have pleasant conversation and make him feel like 'a man' at the end of a long day.
Maybe I'm a little jaded, but tons of guys have called me smart or intelligent ot witty. Once guys realize that I'm smarter than them, they sort of resign themselves to a dynamic where they feel like they 'lose' most arguments when im really just asking them to explain themselves better. I think a lot of people want to feel supported at the end of the day. They don't want what they say'questioned' and i get how thats annoying.
As a person who understands words convey meaning, I would want my partner to have an ability to reflect on their words and not fall into the lazy habit of 'you know what I mean.' No shit, if i did, i would be asking the question in the first place.
Different men have different preferences in women. I would say that, in general however, it depends on what the man is seeking in a relationship. For example, men that are into one-night stands, casual sex, and short-term relationships are least likely to value a woman's intelligence. This is because he values sex the most and sex doesn't require intelligence. However, men that value long-term relationships and marriage are more likely to want an intelligent partner. Women that are educated and logical are better equipped to keep the relationship healthy and are better at problem solving, which is a crucial skill for long-term relationships.
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Getting horny just thinking about it
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not
Hell yeah!
I find intelligence damn seductive and sexy. Stimulate my mind with your intriguing thoughts and intellectual talks, and I am all yours.
I, personally never preferred beauty as much as intelligence. Although looks are important but I would choose an intelligent woman with average looks over a very good looking woman with less intelligence.
I have dated intelligent woman as well as the pretty ones that were not so intelligent. I always felt something missing in my relationships being with these pretty girls. I never liked the discussions on the shades of lipstick, brands of purses and the family lives of celebrities. But I always loved talking to my intelligent women, they can go discussing about anything- fashion trends (not so well as the pretty ones do), literature, poetry, scientific developments, gadgets, video games, politics, history and what not. Their talks used to really stimulate the mind and help be grow.
Intelligent woman are often very open. They will never depend on you to get things done for them. They respect your personal space and will never be over possessive, they themselves may start romance and sex and you enjoy it, they never do bitching, they accept you as you are and do not try to overburden you with the transformations they desire for their image of ideal man. Most importantly you need not to spend hours in shopping with them, they too love staying in home cuddling you and playing video games or watching movie. Intelligent women are very supportive as well, they are very understanding. Once you fall in love with them, you many never find beauty as attractive as intelligence.
I'll try to explain what I think. In general I feel intelligence is way less "important" for guys in a partner than it is for women in guys. That's not to say that guys don't like intelligent women though (and for some it's just as important), it's just not as important. Second, we do like them, however often (not always of course), that comes with an attitude that is very unattractive. A superiority or "better than you" type attitude. That is what we don't like. Not so much the intelligence, but attitude that often comes with it. And of course, depends on the guy. I mean, there are some people out there (men and women) that wouldn't like very intelligent people in general maybe because it makes them FEEL unintelligent, or they feel like they aren't on their level or things like that. It's just feelings, but they control so much of what people do in life. Rational or not. And of course the "bad apples" out there that like to control women etc. Much harder for them with intelligent women that aren't going to fall for the manipulations. But that goes both ways, with women and guys as well.
They probably just want an area where they know more than her. Whether that be book smarts or street smarts or home skills or something else. If your partner is better and smarter than you at everything it would feel a little stifling, even if they don't brag about it.
I'm sure there are men who's best area is their booksmarts, and they would be more compatible with a woman who's best area is something else (like street smarts or home skills).
Complementary, is what I mean. While it's very important to have things in common, I think it's also important that you have different strengths and weaknesses, so that you can get double the good stuff and not butt heads as often when you disagree (maybe).
But I've never been in a relationship so actually, what the hell do I know. I'm just gonna stick around and read the other comments.
I'm going to say that guys don't like being constantly one-upped (we are generally very competitive), and if a woman is universally smarter than us in most subjects, then it *could* be a problem.
Intelligence in and of itself is not a problem, and frankly it's far preferable over dating an idiot. In terms of non-physical qualities of a person, a lack of intelligence and/or acting like a dummy is easily the main reason I would not ask someone out, or probably even be (actual) friends with them.
Nicely put
Let me translate what the old guy said for you. He means men want a respectful woman who appreciates what he does. Not one who has contempt for him. Modern women tend to view men as competition. You can never have a serious relationship with someone if you see them as competition because you won't be on the same team. It's not really about whether you're intelligent or not but whether you think that entitles you to treat males poorly. And contrary to what some young guys in here think, a woman being respectful doesn't mean the guy shouldn't respect her too. It's not mutually exclusive.
I have always adored the 'SMART' and 'nerdy' kinds of ladies!! The others are just trying to fit in to social norms, and pump out 'puppies' and the usual BS!!
I am so attracted to the SUPER-SMART ones, as they challenge me, and make me be who I really am, and want to be!
It's so easy to fall into
complacency, and the social nonsense, and forget about doing something that MATTERS!!
I adore those women, that I meet, that are maybe 'Smarter' than me, and that pushes me to be a Better Man!!
If she wears glasses, OMG, then DEFINITELY, All-In!! LOL!! :)
Absolutely. In fact I could never see myself wish a non smart person for anything more than a one night stand friends with benefits situation. What that guy should have said to you men don't like the idea of a woman being smarter than they are. It shouldn't matter at all, and it won't matter to a man who is comfortable in his own skin and content knowing that you are satisfied regardless to who may be smarter. I'm honest enough with myself to a realized long ago in a relationship you can only spend so much time getting physical probably best if you not only have chemistry but enjoy each other's conversation and Company in general. The Men Who don't like intelligent women are insecure in your own intelligence and also don't like to get beat by girls in games are sports, they also have a problem with their partner earning more money or being more successful Etc. You're only 18 so the song are you like this the better off you will be
For me one of the biggest turn ons is to be doing something and out of know where you see and hear the confident voice of a girl say here let me see it or let me hep you and in that moment take CONTROL of what ever it is that is going on and do what ever it was that she was doing and move on to the next thing 9 out of 10 time she is beautiful SOFT caring within and its not a big deal she did it because she can there is some so very special about a girl like that because not mater what it is if its the right thing to do she's going to step up and in to it to take it on i said 9 out of 10 times but there are only maybe out of 1000 that can do that and is that person and thst is the person I want to hang with and get to know
I beg to differ, art often reflects real life.
One needs look NO further than contemporary male's attraction to the bespectacled buxom bookworm Nerd 15 yr old Velma Dinkley.
So focused upon external investigation, so self-effacingly un-aware of her own concupiscence that male's are drawn to provide her irresistible erotic stimuli to over-ride her singular focus and savor witnessing her complicity in wracking orgasmic convulsions!
There is a particular quote from the infamous Marquis D' Sade:
“When she's abandoned her moral center and teachings...
when she's cast aside her façade of propriety and lady-like demeanor...
when I have SO corrupted this fragile thing and brought out
a writhing, mewling, bucking, wanton whore for my enjoyment and pleasure...
enticing from within, this feral lioness... growling and scratching and biting...
taking everything I dish out to her
... at that moment, she is never more beautiful to me. ”
Only if she has something he doesn't and desires, or he naturally desires somebody who is mentally similar to his own. People also define intelligence differently. But personally, a good amount doesn't depend on his intent. But there are men who respect you and actually do.
Yes I absolutely do. I find girls who are interested and knowledgeable in any topic be it the arts, history, science, psychology, anthropology, literature, media etc. super attractive. I want to have interesting conversations and hear new perspectives from the girl I'm dating. You know those kind of conversations that make you see the world from a whole new perspective after? Those the kind of convos I want to have with a girl. A curious and adventurous mind is so attractive to me. Also, emotional intelligence is essential for building a successful relationship.
No, it's not true. I'm not intimidated by smart women or smart people at all. Smart women are great for relationships because they have the ability to reason and empathize in difficult situations. What puts me off about smart girls is when they feel the need to constantly prove how intelligent they are. That gets tiresome fast. The girls think it's because we can't "handle" their intelligence, but that's nonsense. Imagine a guy who's muscular constantly walking around shirtless and flexing and trying to prove how strong he is. That would get pretty lame after a short while, because it's annoying to have people rubbing your face in how awesome they are all the time. So smart is great, but it's not everything. Sexy matters, as does humility, humanity, and the ability to care about others.
Intelligent women are attractive to me considering I’m rather intelligent myself. As a man, your biological hardwiring tells you to lead and protect. A woman possessing a higher IQ than him renders his gender role null and makes him feel useless... therefore offsetting the natural balance of the dynamic. So men of lesser intelligence will most likely avoid you or display defensive egocentric driven behavior. Men of higher intelligence will most likely be gravitated towards you. I think relationships work best when an intelligent woman dates an even more intelligent man. Surely humans are more evolved in this progressive era... right? Not really in my opinion. It’s just not what I see in my real life. I even think I’d be challenged if I dated someone who was brighter than me.
sure they do me among them, wanna date me?🤣but seriously I guess some boys in your ageclass might feel intimidated by a girl being smarter them they are or some other shit🤔I mean there is loads of people smarter than me and there is also loads of people who are less smart than me but If I meet a pretty woman who likes me and she is smarter than me whats not to like🤔
but also there is being smart and acting smart
nobody likes it if you are constantly reminding them that you are intellectually superior to them but at the same time dont be afraid to be yourself
I dunno if reading a lot of books or acquiring knowledge really makes u smart tho, cos I think everyone has the potential to study a lot and learn a lot, even dumb people... it’s jus most people can’t be bothered to do all that... so if a girl is the best in class and has a lot of knowledge... that isn’t certain she has a high IQ... I rather have a girl who is smart by jus thinking smart with great problem solving and jus thinking realistically and deep about things... that’s the kind of intelligent I would call intelligent... but yes an intelligent girls is hotter than a dumb one... it doesn’t really make much difference tho cos guys are very visual.. of a girl is dumb but looks hot... ima still date her... brains only make u a little more attractive
It’s like a added bonus
To do well academically in essay subjects, it’s based on critical thinking- not just regurgitating information you’ve read in books, but forming an argument.
True, a lot of what I was taught in school I couldn’t even understand even if I wanted to learn, so forget wht I said about even dumb people can learn a lot, I jus have a low iq
U are right and u sound like u wasn’t lying about being clever
You sound like a gentleman! A lot of men would have told me I was wrong even if they didn’t think I was.
Lol yeah. I can admit when I’m wrong... a lot can’t seem to do that these days... lol
It’s why u get them flatearthers lol
First, a lot of men do like very intelligent women. A book smart woman is very sexy. Honestly, my ultimate fantasy girl is a slutty smart girl. lol. Now let me try and interpret what the old man was saying to you. He wasn't just saying men don't like intelligent women. He was really saying, some men don't like women who think for themselves. Women who can have a career and make their money. Even worse, women who can make more money then a men can. OMG... lol. Some men want a woman they can control and intelligent women are not easy to "control". Don't listen to him. You do you boo. An intelligent is very attractive. For me it's so nice to go on a date with a women who I can carry a deep conversation with. A cultured woman. A woman I can a lot from.
I married a woman with an IQ of 158. We were married for 21 years until she passed. We had two children, the oldest now has a Ph. D. in Education, the other has a Masters in Art History. Did I LIKE my red-headed intelligent lady? Does a bear dedicate in the woods?
The thing is, most women aren't really that intelligent. There's all kinds of politics going on and bottom line, just because YOU think you're smart because you consider yourself smarter than the average woman, doesn't mean that men will think so.
Statistically, because of the IQ distribution for every > 130 woman there is there's gonna be like 8 or so men. So when I meet like a 110,120 woman who's full of herself because she can spell and write grammatically correct shitposts on the internet, I'm just not impressed.
That said, when I do mean like genius level people, it's pretty damn obvious, and it's impressive. Even among my peers intellectually, like it's nice that they can appreciate for instance a physics problem, I guess, but the myth that these STEM girls are more "compatible" or something, no, it's not true.
TDLR, it's fine if you're actually intelligent and not a poser. Even if, though, it's really not a plus.
Most men do prefer an intelligent woman. What they don't like is any woman who thinks no guy is good enough for her (and intelligent women are much more prone to that, although most aren't).
Sure, there are some insecure guys that can't handle any woman with confidence, but they're pretty undateable guys anyway.
I like women who are in great physical and mental shape.
If she’s smart we’ll be able to have deep and meaningful conversations. Talks that matter. We won’t just talk about nonsense all the time. Intellectual conversations are more enjoyable to me.
Yes we do.
My ex was like you in highschool, she was rank three of our 2019 class.
She was the only girl at my school that I was actually intrested dating in.
I'm just saying this because men do like intelligent women, at best we at the very least don't detest them.
That old man doesn't know what he's talk about. He lived in a different time. Things are different now.
yeah, i do actually... however i like women who i click with, who have a good personality and sense of humour, who is nerdy/geeky, kind and caring but can be feisty too
what that old man meant to clarify is that narcissists and players dont like smart women... as they cannot control them as easily, they also dont like them cos of the fact the lies and acts of manipulation that narcissists and players do are more easily seen through and avoided...
Yes, if I'm being honest it's because most people can't keep up with the sort of things I talk about. Even the jokes I crack are often allusions to people well know in academia. Not everyone understands what I'm talking about unless they're pretty well educated or interested in that sort of thing. When I find an intelligent girl to talk to it means so much to me. I'm going to try harder to preserve that relationship and be more eager to make plans or spark up conversation.
Intelligence is a plus, but it's not the most important thing. The problems come when a woman thinks that her intelligence is a selling point and really begins to try to impress guys with it.
It's like a man with money. Money is a plus, but if he starts flashing the cash in front of you trying to use it to impress you he looks like a dickhead right? Whereas if he just has the money but doesn't acknowledge it, act likes it's no big deal, then it's attractive.
No they don't.
If you notice from pop culture (the big bang theory). Penny was the ideal girl everyone is chasing... But☝️sexually. Whereas Emy Farah Fauler wasn't much liked even though she was ok averagely attractive.
However the men who will chase you will be the right men. Believe me.
how old was that guy? Pretty stupid thing for him to say.
I had an ex who was very book smart. Not brainwashed in liberal bs “sciences” either but very well versed in war history and computer technology. She was cute too.
What I loved about her is we could get into in-depth discussions about society and politics and she would use her brain to analyze issues vs emotions. She changed my mind on a few things and vice versa. She didn’t take politics personally.
No, he means arrogant women. Most women who will call themselves intelligent are really just being arrogant, or as you say, braggy. The main issue with intelligence is that it's only attractive, for men or women, if it's intelligence that you can share with your partner. If it's not something that you can share and both enjoy, then it won't help, so it's really more a matter of having mutual interests.
Your opinion of yourself is highly inflated. In other words, you're an image in your own mind. You're really not that great. Worse, it's very likely you've never even ONCE considered what you bring of high value to a relationship. Never even though about what you would DO for your man. I'll bet you have zero idea how to keep a man. Let alone get one.
So tell us, what exactly DO you offer? Besides social skills and what YOU think are good looks?
And no, guys like smart girls, ones that can stand on their own two feet. Guys are not your savior, and they're not there to 'complete you'. Just know when it gets to 'We don't need no stinkin' men' then all bets are off.
You sir just like controversy, regardless of ether you actually believe the twaddle you write. What more is there to offer than social skills (which include humour and good conversation), kindness and decent looks? I’m not one to go around saying ‘I don’t need no man’ and I certainly don’t view men as my saviour. Relationships really aren’t that difficult- trust me, I’ve been in them before. You, however, are clearly lacking the basic requirements to attract women (kindness and good judgement).
And you're dumber that fuck. I've been married for longer than you've been on the planet, have had plenty of women. You're an image in your own mind. How 'bout FUCK OFF.
... and yet you’re still on this website at the ripe old age of 63
Sure been here longer than you. I got my 5 year congrats from management, and replied to over 30K questions. You? Not much. Why don't you STFU... and MAYBE you'll learn something. No? We get it... you came here for validation. You're a big-time loser.
So now you've demonstrated nicely how loathsome a know-it-all woman is. I would simply tell you to piss up a rope. An 'intelligent woman' understands the intricacies of man-woman relationships, when to assert, when to be passive. A dunce competes with him. You'll never find a man you can share your life with - they simply won't put up with your bullshit.
I bet you charm all the ladies with that know-it-all fowl mouth
Just on here you idiot. And you bought it all, hook line and sinker. LOL
Oh, and by the way, that would be 'foul', not fowl. The latter is a bird. You really are dumb as rocks, aren't you?
My wife is more intelligent than me and has way more culture. So yes I guess we are.
I don't find anything emasculating about it. Like you said as long as they are not braggy it's a way for us to learn with our partner. Just like they learn other things from us.
I find it way easier to connect with women who are intellectual.
I have two female friends who are the party for everything kind of people and I rarely talk to them due to the incompatibility. On the other hand, I have a couple friends who are super smart, studious types and I find it easier to hangout and talk to them. If I date someone, I need someone who stimulate me intellectually as well as physically.
So yes, I love intelligent women.
I am semi-sapiosexual
I prefer intelligence to conventional attractivity
My exes are both intelligent women and that's how we connected in the first place the fact they were 10's and I was a 6 at the best was purely chance given they approached me with romantic intent
But then I'm not normal, this is something I am acutely aware of so there is that
That old man is a plonker.
He's just jealous, that women can be smarter than him and said that in order to feel better about himself.
I sure as hell do not want to deal with stupid girls. And not with bimbos either
I want clever women.
Can't speak for "all" men, but my educated guess is that "intelligent men both like and prefer intelligent women". I'm not intimidated by a smart woman, I enjoy her and seek her out. Dumb men don't want to be upstaged. Oh, just an observation - intelligent women don't brag. They don't need to.
I like smart girls but not girls who think they’re smart. For example a girl who thinks she’s smart will pull out stats and figures over something like the wage gap and how women make like 70 something cents to every dollar a man makes. Which makes her sound smart yea. But a truly smart girl would realize the factors that cause that discrepancy and understand WHY it is how it is. That’s just a random example that I thought of
Of course 🙂
By Day the solve Solutions 😏
Then after hours they go through the Limits to face the odds 🤨
Intelligent people in general seem to be more passionate about certain topics they're inspired by. They also have a more sophisticated sense of humor, which can manifest itself in subtle sarcasm. I prefer women like that.
Most men say I'm intelligent and seem to like it. I don't really consider myself that intelligent but I am only attracted to intelligent men; maybe they're seeing a reflection of their intelligence in me.
Name checks out.
Well yeah, I love an intelligent woman, even if she maybe smarter than me in some aspects.. A lot of "intelligent" women though, usually like men that are "smarter" than them.. As with all things women prefer in a man..
Its not like that if i met u i will not know that for sure its down to personality
Men DO like intelligent women, it's just that it doesn't mean THAT much to us. So if you had two girls, who were exactly the same in every way but one is more intelligent, most guys would go with the smarter girl. BUT, if you had one girl who was top of her class and a 6/10 in the looks department, and the other was middle of the pack in the class and an 8/10 in the looks department, most guys would probably be more interested in the second girl.
That old man is an idiot and he doesn't speak for the vast majority of men. Intelligence is always attractive.
There is a popular myth among women that men are "intimidated" by smart or successful women, and that's not true. It's other personality issues that often accompany success in women that are the big turn off to men.
A woman knowing how to treat a man and make him happy is what is important. Being intelligent and successful is a big bonus.
The Old Man is a dumbass.
I love intelligent women. Secret crush on Amy Mainzer.
I want to evolve the human race to be super-intelligent.
Intelligent is sexy.
Let there be no doubt that most men like intelligence. It makes for more interesting conversation. However academic intelligence doesn't always translate to real world intelligence.
I do actually like intelligent women, yes.
Intelligent women are exciting, as long as they have the ability to use their intelligence in practical ways.
Yeah, I do like intelligent women.
Only when our intelligence is at similar lever I can truly feel it is not only physical but also mental partnership.
Yes they do, but not the attitude that comes with it like superiority complex Offcourse not meaning for all but some people are over there head, be nice and men will love and adore you and cherish your accomplishments as well
There is a difference between being book smart and intelligent. Common sense and the ability to use what you have learned are more important. Maybe that is what he was trying to say. Knowing more book stuff does not make intelligent.
sure. but not "too" intelligent. more or intelligent than me is both fine. but if the discrepancy is too large in either direction, you won't be able to properly relate, which makes a relationship problematic.
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I find intelligent women not only very attractive, but it's actually a requirement for me. I need someone who I can pitch and catch ideas with.
Some men do and some men don't.
Everyone has their own preferences and likes when it comes to the opposite sex, you shouldn't take one person's opinion or likes and make that the standard.
Might be for some guys because they are intimitated but not for me. I like smart woman because it´s easier to start a conversation with them.
I love a women who can talk to me. I love a girl whose smart, loves to argue thats something that makes me thrilled to see her. Because a smart girl can give me something to think about from time to time
Men likes intelligent women but some get intimidated but then why would you date someone who can't handle your intelligence? wouldn't that be boring for you?
After all the sex, 90% of relationships are talking. So they better.
I really don't like women who aren't intelligent. I get bored easily.
I would say logical rather. Mist if them are smart and intelligent. The moment they fall in love they throw away all the logic and rationality. They pick it up right after break up. Why women have such relationship with being logical and rational.
Yes it’s true. Most of them are scared of intelligent women.
Intelligent women are attractive. They add a very nice dynamic to a relationship.
I'd say I'm more emotionally intelligent and sage kind of wise, than book smart. I like learning id probably try to absorb whatever she told me and learn something new
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