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No, I don't think. Overall, women are in relationship with the men they want most.
As to men, most of them are in relationship with the women they want most in their options.
That is women have "ridiculous" standarts they've reached while most of the men cannot do this.
Maybe most of the men have more "ridiculous" ones than the women's and that's why they've failed.
Actually, the numbers are pretty conclusive on this subject: women have a way higher bar than men do. OkCupid has done extensive studies on this stuff and basically found that the average man is willing to date the average woman, but the average woman isn't willing to date the vast majority of men, like 80% or something.
That’s not true tell me what do you think most men standards are and I’ll tell you why they are false everytime I hear a woman list male standards they sound like they have very little to no knowledge about men a lot of women think they deserve the perfect man though even low quality women have high standards
Most women have standards that reflect their nature and childhood male role models. If she was raised among successful, mature men who don’t compromise their integrity no matter what then this is “normal” and the type she is inevitably attracted to. All else would be subconsciously less than.
I believe both sides of the genders have ridiculous high standards. Now there are few women and men that their standards aren't different. I as a Sapinard Apache Native American Brittish mix, I have expectations that I have for women that I date and I have deal breakers and boundaries that will not be crossed or I part ways and start looking for someone else.
I mean they'll have sex with anything but will only get into a relationship with someone they find beautiful... and that's when they get picky. I think it really just depends on the guy though.
And opposite is truth for women. They will get into relationships with anybody who has enough money but then get extremely picky when they want to have sex and only desire top 5% of men. 😏😉
I think it really depends on the individual rather than gender. I have met many guys who have very high standards too.
Yh I think they do. But then again so can us men. A m8 of mine was so obsessed with having a model looking girl that 1 he got with was sleeping around behind his bk. He never believed me she was cheating on him until I showed him where she goes & she was known as the estate bike
Yeah thats how it goes. Best not to bother with a relationship till you have those things, if its not possble then just be celibate and be single honestly. I know y'all won't like that, but really, its better than being someones bitch that they complain about to their friends, that they beat up every day, and finally that they sacrifice at a convenient time
Depends a lot of the time it's easier for women to look past a man appearance if he's funny or smart or caring person. At least for me I don't go for looks but it doesn't hurt if they are attractive
I don't want to date a celebrity. I just want to date a normal and decent human being. It seems hard to find now a days.
You missed out he must be at least 6'2" with great jaw line and better genetics than you.
It's funny to me that women say we men have "unrealistic standards" while we actually just want girls that aren't morbidly obese. Meanwhile they want a dude that spends at least 2hours a day in the gym while never drinking a beer or eating a burger.
What do you mean because I thought most women drink sometimes too?
@UncleJessieRabbit i meant you gotta have a pretty dang strict diet plus workout routine to meet the male beauty standard. To meet the male beauty standard, all you have to do is not eat like a pig.
*female
women today are as shallow as fuck.
They have the “illusion of choice” based on the endless attention they can get easily online.
so they do not settle for anything less than what they deem as perfect. Then they get used and abused by fuck boys and tossed like the garbage they are and become desperate pathetic middle-ages single moms who fuck their dogs just to get some sexual attention from a living thing.
Men also want attractive and skinny girls also many even like young girls even if they're old and these days they only want you to pay bills and rent also expect you to do all household chores and take care of kids get along with his family and friends entertain his boss and friends when they visit. don't have many partner even if they have many etc
Lol speaking for myself and pretty much every girl I know, those aren’t our standards at all😂😂😂
U sure?
I’m more than positive lol
It seems from your statement lol
Same goes for guys too. Delusional people exist irrespective of gender.
Totally true, they have this high standards you need to meet and when you don't they cry with the friends and you the worst things that ever walked earth
What has social media got to do with this? Do you think women are stupid and don’t know their own mind?
Honestly yes, women have been conditioned since they could talk that they are oppressed and are strong independent women who needs no man. That they should never “settle”. Thus how dating in the modern world has been destroyed along with relationships. Not to say it’s JUST women’s fault tho.
@AgentDearestZ What? Lmao.
There's nothing wrong with being strong and independent. When people say we don't need a man, it's true. We want to make sure we have our life together and not assume that we need a man to function, especially after a breakup. It's the same for males. And yes, nobody should "settle". Go out there and get someone who loves you just as much as you love them. Never settle for less. That way neither of you will be hurt for being the one the other "settled" for. & Neither of you will be tempted to cheat.
Let me tell you, I do not need a man. For what? To buy me things? To tell me how I should do things? To chop wood?
I am a strong independent woman and I don’t need so called social media to tell me this. I’ve lived my life before the internet existed, so don’t tar us all with your ridiculous idea brush!
@Dinklex3 "When people say we don't need a man, it's true." Men and women need each other.. That's a pretty crummy way to look at it.. I get wanting to be independent of anybody so you won't be out here lost, but"I don't need a man" sounds like a bitter woman..
@JDavid25 I already explained what is meant when we say "I don't need a man".
I'm single, happy, healthy, and financially stable. No, I don't NEED a man. Acknowledging that we don't need men to function doesn't mean we don't want to date. And even if we didn't, there's nothing wrong with that. Gag men act like a woman being an independent adult is such a crime.
@JDavid25 Being upset when someone says they don't need them seems bitter and a bit concerning and controlling as well.
I wouldn't date anyone who thought they "needed" me.
@Dinklex3 "Gag men act like a woman being an independent adult is such a crime." No, I like "independent women" I didn't say anything about that.. I was simply talking about the phrase "I don't need a man" Men have financially never needed women, yet throughout the centuries you have men killing for women they love.. Men getting shot up, and beat up for women.. I'm simply talking about the mentality that comes with the saying.. You act like men don't like women who can handle themselves.. There was never a point in history where there wasn't independent women.. Like I said there is bitterness that comes with saying "I don't need no man"..
@JDavid25 Women get shot and beat up for men as well.
The subject under this thread that we are talking about is dating, correct?
Under the subject of DATING we don't need to have a romantic relationship with a man to function. Vice versa for men.
There's nothing bitter about that fact. Nothing, but empowerment.
@Dinklex3 No doubt there have been, but we was talking about men who didn't "need" women..
"There's nothing bitter about that fact. Nothing, but empowerment." There definitely is.. If you don't feel the need to date that could just be said.. But women or men saying that they don't need the opposite gender is frustration and bitterness.. We both need each other.. That's how we survived so long throughout history.. We each got strengths to counter each other's weaknesses.. That's why we get together.. People have lost that living in a misandrist society..
@JDavid25 No, we were talking about women. I brought up that it was the same for men.
I think you should look up the definitions of "need" and "bitter".
It is perfectly fine and healthy to not NEED the member of the opposite sex as a romantic partner to function and live a happy healthy life.
There is absolutely nothing bitter about acknowledging that fact. Acknowledging the fact that you do not NEED someone does not mean you do not want or love or yearn for someone.
If my boyfriend said they "needed" me and wouldn't survive without me I'd be severely put off. If I end a relationship with someone, male or female yes it will hurt. Yes I'll be sad for a time. But I do not NEED that person. I'll grow as a person and move on. I'm able to continue functioning without that man in my life. It's called growth and empowerment. The last thing I need is being stuck in a relationship with someone who claims they "need" me and threaten to kill themself if I leave them.
@Dinklex3 I was talking about men not needing women financially with that subject in particular.. And, I'm not talking about men and women needing each other to be happy, and fulfilled.. But us needing each other in a way because we was basically made to compliment one another and that's how we survived and thrived because women and men always had each other at the end of the day.. So I don't need the whole lecture about "people should be happy without the opposite sex".. I been single all my life, and I'm good.. But once a good woman comes around she'll be the woman I need.. And I recognize that.. Whenever somebody feels the need to say "I don't need a man, or even a woman" it's mixed in with a bit of frustration.. Mainly when women say it..
@JDavid25 We're going around in circles.
You're the one who quoted me first, correct?
I've already said what was meant when I said "I don't need a man". I explained it in detail.
It's a true statement and there was no frustration when I stated that.
Seems like you're trying to stray from the main subject and taking just one part of what I said instead of reading it as a whole.
Exactly. You've been single all your life have come this far without a woman. Hence you do not and DID NOT NEED a woman in your life.
@Dinklex3 "Exactly. You've been single all your life have come this far without a woman. Hence you do not and DID NOT NEED a woman in your life."
Never said I needed a woman to function.. I said that men and women need each other in general which we do, and that I don't like the phrase "I don't need a man"... I never say "I don't need a woman" because like I said when the right one comes along, I will need her.. And I read all of your paragraph.. You seemed to only focus on a certain part of my response to you though.
@JDavid25 Nor did I claim you said that.
I addressed everything you originally responded to.
You are surviving now, so no you do not need a woman even when the "right one" comes along.
Again, look up the definition of need.
Sorry that you don't like that phrase? And I'm sorry you assume that a woman saying she doesn't need a man, TO DATE since that IS the subject here, is bitter.
I'm single. I do NOT need a man to be the happy, healthy individual that I am and that does not mean that I hate or will not welcome men into my life
You're being a bit shallow minded here.
We're going around in circles so I'm done.
Night 👌
I’m not bitter at all.
I have a partner, and I’m very happy with him. However, before he came along, and any time I was single, I was very happy, and very capable, able to do things for myself, provide for myself, and care for my family. In actual fact, I’ve never felt the need for a man or a relationship. I function just as well without. But, when a rare gem comes along and enhances all this, why should I say no?
@Dinklex3 Look at what you said right after my Initial response to you.. "Men on G@G act like it's a crime for a woman to be independent".. Sure you didn't represent what I initially said.. And yes when the right one comes along she will be the woman I NEED.. The women that have strengths to my weakness.. That's why we have relationships and not just rely on ourselves.. Same for you.. If you ever get a guy he'll be the guy you need, cause that's the purpose of relationships.. You may not need a man to "survive" or be "happy", but somebody should always add a layer to your life.. There's a difference between needing somebody even if it's temporary and being able to live without them.. And we ain't goin in circles just disagreeing but alright.. You have a good one.. 😎👉..
Not at all. Most of them are more attracted to what they hear than to what they see.
Yeah, but this is relative. What I mean by that is expecting a lot more than they are willing or able to offer themselves, not expecting the world.
Yes. Women's standards are higher than men.
They say men are more visual, and that may be, but even in that regard, women's standards are higher.
No definitely not... and that list you have is actually a very short one so it’s even a bad example for someone with high standards, but either way men are definitely worse.
hell yeah... thats the reason for sentences like
"all men are idiots, dogs"
"not all men are assholes, some are nice"
"all good men are either taken or gay"
I think the standards to be considered "hot" for men are much higher than for young women.
the standard to be okay looking is lower.
the standard to be dateable is higher.
Every person has their idea of what they want. It's not exclusive to one gender.
Maybe you should dump all social media and meet people in person. Your number of rejections will decrease dramatically.
Funny I thought men were more shallow. There’s this tinder experiment from a few years ago validating this haha
It's pretty easy to understand what men want on dating sites - Sex!
But women want more than that. It's complicated.
Somehow yes. Even though they are physically standardised. But yes most have this superman idea which isn't real.
How is this even a question? Women have expectations that are beyond absurd, and standards to which they would never hold themselves.
Yes, but when they're young and desirable, they can afford to.
In my experience average girls are willing to date average guys. I've never tried dating through social media though.
Absolutely. Spend some time with online dating and that'll become apparent to you very quickly.
Not at all. If they did, there would be a lot more single people than there are.
Most men only want sex that's why they have the lower standards , women on the other hand aren't craving sex as much as men and they are more vulnerable in a case of a bad relationship thats why most women are more careful when they choose a partner.
On average, a man wants to fuck any girl that isn't ugly or severely overweight...
I wouldn't say women have ridiculous standards, but they sure are higher than men's.
Liberal women do have ridiculous standards. Don’t forget they also only want tall guys.
No we don't. Our standards are just as high as yours.
I do have ridiculous high standards that no man can meet if i am the woman he is with. Not at all physical. Completely emotional standards. So i refrain from dating
Probably true but not with specifically what you claim also always been the case that women are fussier than men
Yeah, too bad for them their ideal stud is like 1/1000 and probably gay.
Or is Chad Tundercock who only uses women for a pump & dump.
I've been the chad, it gets boring after a while, and all the thrusting eventually results in back pain.
Enjoying life as a hermit now.
Yes, way. Completely unrealistic expectations. And why they call your greeting to them 'creepy'.
For a lot of guys the checklist is
Vigina
Not ugly
I only have many requirements that basically boils down to three categories.
1. Be semi decent looking. Doesn't have to be a super model, but looks after herself.
2. Not have diseases. This is important as I have a compromised Immune System.
3. Not be a c@nt. I think this is self explanatory.
Standards are hypothetical nonsense.
In reality people click and are drawn spontaneously to other people who are way different than their "standards"
Yeah. I mean look at online dating statistics and you'll see that women have the unrealistic standards. Same for real life unfortunately. Can't do much but just play the cards you were dealt
That’s not my standards at all tbh. I think everyone has different standards though
No, just different. Classically men are more physically drawn. Women more emotional. Neither is set is stone.
Where'd you get white from? Most of the women I know have dated men of different races and I know some women who only date black guys.
women complain about anything just watch the tv show "take me out"
https://www.youtube.com/embed/XzyvLf0V3qsOf course they do. They grew up thinking they’re a Disney princess.
Did I end up on an incel forum
Yes.
Lol women have no self judgement at all.
In what way is this an "incel forum"? Anyone who addresses a particular issue must be an "incel" now?
No, no, it's perfectly reasonable to decide you won't talk to men who aren't at least 6' tall or more, really wealthy, and have the appearance of a male model.
Who said that girls want a big d and being tall. I never heard that and never said that. Ok being tall I heard this many times. But if they love a person bc of their character they are real partners.
Not exactly "ridiculous" but just higher Standards.
I like all guys, just be biologically a male and be clean
Heck yeah they do! And the same women would insult a guy for daring to want a slim partner with big tits!
Yes, women have more ridiculous standards than men.
society made them that way, even though women are so weak
I just want a man that makes me laugh and i can feel comfortable with. That to me is sexy
Yes. And I think women think men have such ridiculous standards on women when most do not.
How about men? They want super sexy tall slender big ass and boob and gorgeous face with big lips
welcome to the same scrutny women face everyday.😕
The only requirement the boys have for girls is that you need to be under 135 pounds.
"welcome to the same scrutny women face everyday.".. That's not even close to the truth.. 🙄
Honestly guys are picky too
If you go for the hottest looking guy, yes.
Probably. I dont but most do.