Yeah, I've lived this all throughout my 20s. Besides ONE good girl, all I dealt with were these kinds of women. Only difference is, $60K a year wasn't good enough; they wanted $72K+ a year. Which is earning $34.60 an hour, by the way.
Although men love harder and appreciate women far, FAR more than women appreciate us, ultimately, it is women who need us more than we need them. Especially when the power dynamic shifts in your 30s. Women's physical attractiveness peaks at 23 and they lose most of their looks by 30. Men don't reach their prime until 35-40, bare minimum. So when women turn 35, their dating prospects are all but over. When men turn 35, they're just barely now earning enough to fall into women's minimum financial criteria.
So while it can be VERY depressing for us short, less-than-Chad guys, just remember this... In the end, it's men who have the last laugh! Men age like wine, women age like milk.
So cheer up, play your video games, make your money, and learn to be happy on your own, while all the women who used to reject you will whine "Where have all the good men gone?" as their last egg drops somewhere between the ages of 38 and 43.
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I’ve been following this trend for years. Men have been struggling for decades in almost all aspects of their lives. A third of men under 30 are virgins and that spread is expanding. 40 Year Old Virgin was a comedy, but it could be the norm in the not-so-distant future.
The reality is the overwhelming majority of men and women will never find love and everything is going to suffer as a result. I can’t see any situation where anything changes for the better within the next generation or two. Birth rates, careers and industries, social cohesion, increase in crime and violence, etc. On the plus side, we're living through some unique and turbulent times that will be studied by historians hundreds of years from now. The sad part is most of us won’t have descendants alive then.
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So are you saying women should settle for whatever’s out there? It goes both ways. Men have also standards: big tits, women below 25, 36-24-36, submissive, etc!
Let me brig up chimpanzees.
In the natural world Alpha chimp pretty much does all the fucking and the sneaky ones sneak it in there on the DL. Well, that's the world we're stepping into when a woman no longer has to worry about where the money is coming from to feed herself and the babies. If the welfare or other socialist systems goes away... she's not going to be fucking around just for a good lay. But those systems ARE in play boys! She lives in a world where the basic necessities are met no matter what... the food grows on trees that are not really trees for her! So guess what? It's back to being bigger, faster, tougher, stronger, and smarter. Flex the muscles boys, and fuck that bullshit of caring about stupid feelings. You'll be the guy that gets all the pussy if you at least flex one of your abs... Yeah the standards are not that high because the bitches are all mostly big fat hog beasts. Those of you that want that emotional bond and love forever... you'll get her... eventually (after she hits the wall or when we hurt her stupid mother fucking feelings)... after we're done with her and you'll pay her bills and raise our kids with a chance of having one of your own. Congratul-fucking-lations beta bucks (cucks). You work hard and pay hard for that opportunity. You'll most likely get cheated on. One of those hog monsters might try to call me out but she's a hog monster and I didn't fuck her anyways... her high morality of never cheating is only there because she is a hog monster and never had that kind of opportunity like a average basic chick that isn't fat and looks like she took a bath.
Oh yeah that's right... I fuck super model chicks, but yeah I'll fuck a four eyed dork until her glasses fall off as long as she ain't too fat ass well. Not my fault they slam their mouth on my penis while all these dudes with jobs complain about not getting attention. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Be smart and just know the social dynamics of the current social situation. I'm in America now where women are way overvalued just for being a woman... even though they have half the brain size of a man. Equality? She can't bench even 200lbs so fuck off with that... and cripples can't climb stairs. NOT MY PROBLEM.
Just get real or else you'll be getting played just like all these other stupid mother fuckers.
It's not a raising of standards. I think most women for a very long time have wanted an attractive, strong, competent, responsible man.
That's what those traits generally come with, but not always.
It's just that most men of dating age today have grown up not needing to care for themselves. Their mothers, sisters, and previous girlfriends have essentially raised them.
They're helpless on their own.
I don't agree on height requirements (that's not something someone can change or control effectively), but requiring a partner have a job, life skills, and lived experience is more than fair.
If men have slept on their lives and done nothing to contribute to or uplift the lives of those around them, that's on the men.
There's so many men - even on here - who don't have a job, or a hobby, or even an idea of what they want out of life.
It isn't women's fault if most men aren't capable of being a grown ass adult on their own. That's squarely with the men.I dont think the problem are the high standards by women. They need to be high since otherwise there wouldn't be a competition for men. And men are competitive creatures by nature. Somethings gotta keep the drive going after all. I believe it just appears to be high standards because the rules of the dating game became ambiguous to an extreme. I see a lot of young men struggeling to determine what is ok and what not. Of course one can simply ask but then the game is not fun anymore and most women lose interest. In addition what is ok varies drastically which is super unsetteling for men. On top of that there is a huge pressure society wise in the way topics like rape/sexual assault/uncomfortable touch or just how to treat a women in general, are talked about.
Men feel this preassure and alongside the many uncertainties that come along with todays flirting/dating I can Imagine a lot of them giving up. For them it isn't fun or worth the risk anymore. For them it feels impossible to do it right and thus they get the impression of high standards. But high standards would'nt be as problematic if the rules where clear. Alright this is my take on this. as for why it became like that is a different issue. Personally, I find this development worrying as a lot of men aren't developing a deeper understanding of one of their deepest and most powerful desires. Ugly things are guranteed to surface sooner or later if they dont manage to master them and theirself.I don't exactly get the damn math here.
If we don't have a surplus of men, how the hell are the number of lonely single men increasing without the number of lonely single women also increasing?
What am I missing here? Are all women living in Harems with giga chads now? Is that why they're not "lonely" while men are?
USA, Germany, and UK have *less* males than females, at least as far as I know.
And what does this mean? "Men need to address skills deficit to meet healthier relationship expectarions".
And women shouldn't? Women are perfect now? Since when?
Well no wonder, get off the dang dating apps and get out there and meet women in the open. We keep telling people these dating apps just aren't great for getting to know and communicate with people on a deeper level.
I'm also convinced the younger men are listening to to to many whiny alpha male, mgtow with lonely, angry, men. My husband is 5'7, average size (men are about 5 inches.. which is normal) and isn't making 60k a year but he's definitely a hard worker and still makes a bit more than me. Stop listening to these whiny, Effeminate, bitchy men online and start surrounding yourself with real men who will teach you how it is to be a man. Geez if that was that was the case, I wouldn't exist cause my dad was 5'4...
I´m rather worried though I don´t think the problem that the height or dick size are the real issues but growing inability in young men to communicate and show social skills.
It´s also the problem that modern young men have other priorities than the older guys had meaning they´re not that hard working and probably won´t be equally fit.
Masculinity today is totally subjective what for one defines manhood is for the other criteria. So I think it´s gonna be harder in the future to find a partner and I don´t like the development.6ft plus tall, 7” dick, 60K per year or higher salary, funny and handsome.
My husband is only 5'9 and somewhere between 5.5 to 6.5 cause max size can change based on how turned on he is, and he doesn't make 60k either, he is under that... he is handsome though and can be funny.
Personality all the way, is what matters most to me. Things like being responsible and all that.
If what you say is true, which it doesn't seem to be in rural America here cause 80% of people get married right out of high school. I know cities are different though... then that means lots of single women too.
It means that men are the prize and the few that are good enough have a bunch of options and only a high quality woman will be able to attract and keep that man by standing out above the rest of the women who want him.
I'm not sure if it's to do with social skills though, as I did answer a similar question on here the other day.
Women having high standards also means they'll be lonely too, unless they settle, because a bunch of guys pursuing them that aren't good enough for their standards doesn't make them 'options', because they won't even be taken into consideration.
The men who are good enough have the leverage over the women.
This is something a lot of frustrated guys would post. I have been seeing a lot of rhetoric similar to this being posted/shared.
While I haven't had any luck in my dating life, and sometimes just want to scream, I refuse to believe there is no hope. The second you succumb to this kind of negativity is the second you let yourself go and stop trying to self-improve.
Go get in shape and be the best version of yourself, and some day, you'll be told by a pretty girl that you actually are worth her time, and that will be the best feeling.
I'm not giving up, and niether should any of you guys. Rally! You deserve good things in life.
Did you even read the article? Men aren't lonely because they don't fit the bill physically. They are lonely because they have to actually try and be a good partner in order to keep a relationship. The article discusses men going to couples therapy in order to better themselves.
Regardless, there's nothing wrong with having standards. It's better to be alone and happy, than to be in a relationship and miserable.You’ve oversimplified a fairly complex issue here. Women’s expectations are only half of the issue, at most. Men’s expectations are also a concern. The biggest problem though is that men aren’t allowed to connect intimately with each other or even female friends and relatives the way women are. Intimidate relationships with women are our only permissible emotional outlets. So men suffer more from being single than most women. Women can kiss, hug, cuddle each other and talk about anything with each other. So they don’t depend on men to meet all of their emotional needs. If we could meaningfully destigmatize male intimacy, we’d be a lot better off for our own sakes as well as for the women we love.
It is the women who suffer in the end. By being unwilling to "settle" for a good man and only tolerating a Giga-chad (who will never settle with them), these women hit the wall and end up alone.
If you party away your youth, beauty, and fertility; that's on you. Let's add being tatted, pierced, ran-through, having kids out of wedlock; is not attractive to good men.
Fortunately for women there are Simp providers who will pay for female mistakes, but these women will always hate them.
The points you made literally have nothing to do with the article you screenshotted. It’s saying that men go about dating in an unrealistic way because most dating apps consist of men. Basically saying that men lack proper social skills to date in this day and age.
It doesn't seem like it will end up good. Historically as well as in some current societies, situations like those lead to better violence towards everyone but also towards women. Women, for the most part, dont date a man who they think aren't at least on their same level.
6ft plus tall as a minimum is a bit much. 5’7+ Please. 7” dick is prettyyy but minimum can be 5+ inches. 60K is the ideal salary I want to make so until I make that, I can't expect him to. Funny and Handsome are the basic musthaves. Otherwise he can get tf on
The reason why men are single nowadays is because a lot don’t know how to approach women in fear of ‘being called a creep’ we’ve all seen the gym videos of women recording just to catch men looking for 2.2 seconds. It’s things like these than contribute to the statics. Not to mention the modern man nowadays can cook and clean so if you aren’t coming with any value to that man then he’s going to stay single. Stay blessed kings and queens
Y’all always act like men don’t have high standards themselves lol
If you have confidence and a chill personality, I promise you can bag any woman you want.
sitting there crying about “I’m not 6 ft tall, women don’t want me boo boo :(“ isn’t making you anymore attractiveWomen's standards are, if anything, lower than they ever have been. People in general are just becoming more trashy and unfit to be in a relationship.
I think the problem is that a number of us have TERRIBLE judgement of character.
Like, if you're dating someone for only few months, or are already having sex after the 3rd date, then you are a moron.
Besides, I think there is a rise in lonely women, too. Particularly those over 35. And I imagine it's for the same goddamn reason.
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