I make a date plan, ask the woman out. She gets excited but excuses are brought up as why she can't come when i ask her one day before the date whether she is ready/excited etc. for the day?
What am I doing wrong that I need to change in the way I interact with women?
I get through this experience quite often.
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+1 yAre you choosing women from online contact, or from in-person introductions through friends who know both of you?
My guess is that people are skittish in online contacts and it's very easy to ghost a date/person you haven't met. It's incredibly rude, but you are a complete stranger, so, these women may think it's no big deal. Also, these women may be in contact with several other people at the same time they are with you, and are shuffling a deck of "date" cards.
There's a whole lot of, "I don't know what I'm doing until the day I'm doing it" going on in the dating cosmos. If there's something else that crops up that's more exciting, people drop one person or event for another. I've heard this from my 27 year old son.
I'm of the ilk that if I make a date, unless someone dies, I break a bone or am ill, I'm going out with the person I said I'd go out with, or will attend the event I planned to go to. Are you dating women much younger than yourself? This could also be part of the problem. Twenty-five-year-olds practice a different etiquette about going out.
There might be a combination of factors for you to consider. How long have you talked to this person before making a date? A woman needs to feel comfortable about meeting you for a short date (coffee) during daylight hours. Dinner is too heavy and complicated, in my opinion. Meet for a walk in the park for half an hour. Coffee. A bike ride. Short dates mean less pressure for EITHER of you to "perform."
If the short dates prove successful, you can work up to lunch or longer walks or bike rides. Then eventually bigger dates. Don't rush into movies or dinner or anything heavy. Keep it easy and light. And if someone ghosts you over coffee or a walk, they weren't really interested. You've gotta kiss a lot of frogs is still an appropriate adage. Good luck...
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She is a coworker.
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EVEN MORE PROBLEMATIC!!! What if the relationship goes sour? She still ahs to see you every day at work.
Dating co-workers is problematic. I'd avoid it. Then there's gossip about your dating a co worker by OTHER co0workers. ugh. Fish in a pond where you'll get SOME anonymity and privacy And do it old school. Ask close, old friends who they'd recommend. Cousins, or other relatives might have ideas. SHOP AROUND. Avoid situations where you'd have to see someone daily or work with someone who you'd ended up not jelling with. It could spill over into your work relationship.
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+1 yIf you think she might cancel, avoid time sensitive events like concerts or shows or cultural festivals and pick an event that is always available such as a bowling night or a salad bar or a bookstore. These places are open 365 days a year and her cancelling will not cause you to lose money on unfulfilled events such as food truck tickets or comedy show bookings. The other thing is demanding accountability by explaining that you took the day off work or cancelled another event to meet her and want her to respect your time if you continue to date.
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+1 yThe problem with the way you're doing things is likely a matter of timing. If you set up a date a week, or two ahead of time (with someone you haven't gone out with yet), they have too much time to think of why NOT to go. The more time women have to decide to interact with a guy the less likely they are to do it.
For instance, I've had 10/10's come over to my house and hookup after talking for a few hours on a dating app, but have had 7/10's ghost the day of a date we've planned (it's usually over 50% they'll either cancel or ghost the day of the date- I fully expect this). Women are neurotic, and the longer they think the more negative thoughts they'll have- "am I really ready to date; do I really like him, etc."
So, if you schedule something, try to schedule it 2-3 days ahead of time.
Also, late night concessions aren't done with the same mindset women make daytime decisions. If you're talking past 10pm and they agree to something, chances are they'll think twice in the morning (especially over several mornings).
Lastly, check what they say when they agree to go with you. If they say "I'll see; as long as...; then that's clearly a "no, I'm not actually going to go." Get down to a specific time, and work out the logistics (I'll meet you here at 7:30pm, Friday)- even better if you get them to agree to pick them up at a specific time, and have their address (if she doesn't send you her address until the last minute, she's leaving herself an out- which she'll likely use).
Even if you do follow these guidelines, trust me, women will still cancel, ghost, or otherwise simply not show up. They're notoriously unreliable as a sex, and rarely follow through on their word.
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1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. A lot of women get really flaky about dating. They do get excited about it at first, yeah. But all of a sudden they start overthinking everything about you or the situation, without even giving it a chance. Psychologically they've already decided that the situation isn't going to benefit them. Or they've convinced themselves that you as a guy have a motive or will put their life in danger.
Or they lost interest in wanting to get to know you or spend any time with you. Just like how Coach Craig Kenneth once put it: women's feelings change like the wind. Or in many other cases, they decided they want to date someone else and couldn't tell you.
Personally I'm finding that it seems to be that a lot of women today are much more awkward about dating than men are, and seem not to really understand how it should go or something. Maybe it's because a lot of them are more used to just hooking up without any formalities and gender etiquette, and don't really know how to take dating.
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1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. You are doing nothing wrong. It happens. Online dating is full of scammers... so that is why they say if you connect with someone online and they do this type of thing to you then forget about them. Never tolerate this behavior from anyone online, trust me!!!
Women on line are super flaky!
This has happened once or twice to me, basically they accepted my date, but then stayed on the app with the little green bubble... she chatted other guys an decided that she had better options, I guess?
In real life, well the only explanation can be is that they accepted in real life because they did not want to reject you face to face. Or the women were truly and really excited but then due to her own personal insecurities decided to back out.
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+1 yNeed to live your life on doing the right thing. You planned a date, followed up and they gave an excuse. No problem. The issue is most guys don't ever get the woman that says, "Hey I am sorry I can't make it but how does Saturday sound to you?" If she doesn't offer an alternative date and time then move on. Don't ever contact her again.
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u +1 yIf several members of the opposite sex have a similar reaction to you, it usually means that they are all reacting to something that you are doing, or there is something consistently wrong with the way you are identifying women to pursue.
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+1 yFlakes or I'm assuming they get scared/nervous about the date and decide not to go.
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If they are shy or have social anxiety, then could be why they cancel. Scared of not living up to expectations personality or looks wise. If they had bad experiences lately, those memories might of came flooding back which is enough for them to think forget it and cancel cause they do not want to go through that again. So yeah there can be many reasons why. But honestly a lot people really are flakey these days.
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This is the reason. She simply has not the courage.
But even then it's her problem, and shall be up to her to fix it.
7.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Weren’t that excited about getting off the couch, swiping on internet, and showering to go.
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+1 ySetting up a date with a time and all of that sounds really formal with a lot of stress involved. Like damn... is it a dental appointment? Was it going to require a dress code as well? ... and I'm hinting right here what would make people, in general, a bit stressed out by it all.
Try to be more fun and laid-back... be chill. Less formal. Ask her if she wants to hang out randomly or to grab a quick cup of coffee... give the girl an easy into it along with an easy exit. One of my main practices with females I haven't met in person yet was to do a quick meet'n'greet and then fuck off... like "let's just meet up and then let me know later if you want to hang out." You know, make it comfortable and relaxed.
Have you ever watched one of those proposals where you can tell there is a shit ton of pressure being applied to basically force the desired result? it's cringe to even watch. Stuff like flowers at the office is actually psychopathic behavior, not joking, look it up.
TL;DR - You could be coming on a bit too strong.
That's just my opinion though... my first concern with a female is to answer if I even like this person's personality when it's just us. I make sure I give myself and her "a way to escape" if it's just not enjoyable. I sure don't want to be that guy that's applying a bunch of pressure like a car salesman or making it into a damn job interview with a full-on police interrogation. Most of all I don't want to deal with any chick that's doing that bullshit to me as well.10 Reply
+1 yMany people have zero respect for someone else's time. I've spent an hour getting ready then driven 45 miles in the rain to meet a guy for a first date, and five minutes before he was suppose to be there, he texts he can't make it. Want to reschedule, even though he knew I had a long drive into the city to meet him.
I was already there waiting for him.
When pressed he admitted, he had a raid going on with his friends in some online game and didn't want to leave.
Then when I refused to reschedule, he started saying I was a bitch for not understanding and not being willing to reschedule.
Good luck in your efforts, hope you can find someone who respects time as much as you do.
00 ReplyDo NOT tolerate last-minute cancelations, or girls flaking on you. It shows massive disrespect for your time.
The girl either had no intention of going on the date in the first place. Why date weak women? Why date someone that LIED to you before the first date?
The girl found a better opportunity. Why date people that cannot meet commitments she has made? A girl of quality would have told her friends or other guys that she already had plans and something after the date.
I recommend you never again ask her out, and let her know you do not tolerate flakey people. Then treat her normally. If you act pissed, it will come across as a weakness.
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+1 yIt's normal. Girls that flake have mental issues. Encourage them to seek the professional help they need. Mental health is a serious issue.
On a more practical side for you, don't plan dates with girls you don't know. Just coffee meet-up at a convenient time and place, maybe even when you would have gone on your own anyways.
Also you can, if you're a very active dater like I am, double book dates. I set the one I'm least excited about at say 2 and the more excited one at 230. Then if the first flakes I just hang for 30 min for the second. If the second flakes I spend more time with the first. If they both show up then I cut the first short and spend more time hopefully with the second.
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+1 yMaking plans can sometimes make people feel anxious, something set in stone can make people overthink a situation and go in to a full blown panic to which they cancel on you, or it could be that she’s found a guy who is better than you there’s all sorts of reasons why people bail on others.
00 Reply391 opinions shared on Dating topic. Maybe asking about it the day before is a worrying sign?
I can imagine that seeming too intense, too much pressure, for something that's meant to just be fun. Never go full Boyle.
What happens when you just turn up for the date?
00 Reply305 opinions shared on Dating topic. Dating is painful and people are FLAKY. My guess someone asked her out and she took the nest bet. Or she is nervous, tired and not in the mood to be social.
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+1 yYou don't ask. You set the date, and that's all.
If she contacted me to cancel it, I would tell her to contact me when she has time to do so. Only once. And I won't expect to hear from her again, now it's up to her.
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In summary, you shouldn't be after her to fix it. She shall make the effort to contact you, and arrange it now. Don't even argue with her, it's her problem.
2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. You're coming on too strong, probably.
They are going for a date, you are making them feel like they are going for a job interview.
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Or marriage.
+1 yI'd say they are probably just flakey. When I was on dating apps I ran across a lot of guys that were like that too.
00 ReplyStop trying to force your way into their pants and take a genuine interest in who they are as a person and then the date part will come more naturally.
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+1 yEither cold feet or they got a better offer from someone else is my guess.
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Can I ask you a question
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@ManhattanMan1212 Go for it.
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Would you dump a great man just because he isn’t big down there?
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@ManhattanMan1212 I'm thinking not. The vagina only has nerve ending for the first 4-5 inches. After that anything longer is not needed. It's all in the foreplay anyway.
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I’m 6.5 inches long and 4.7 inches girth. Is that small to you
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@ManhattanMan1212 Not for me to say.
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+1 ybecause she decided that she didn't to go. If you want to know why she changed to mind, ask her and if she is comfortable with telling you the truth she will.
00 Reply 892 opinions shared on Dating topic. Just don't ask them if they are excited about the date. It does kinda put someone on the spot.
00 ReplyI don't know, but something similar just happened to me.
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+1 yIt sucks. But don’t hold it against the next woman. We aren’t all like that.
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+1 yLemme guess... a date from an Internet site?
00 Reply18.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Guys do the exactly same thing. People can be flaky.
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+1 yUsually emergencies, or getting stuck at work because the boss says "by the way, do this" unexpectedly.
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+1 yMaybe you’re being too clingy? Try not texting her one day before.
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+1 yIf she keeps cancelling on you just drop her off the plan.
00 ReplyBecause the worst anxiety is worst right before an event and there is the most temptation to cancel. That also is usually how it goes crazy thing always happens before you doing something.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt's simple they flake. Most women do this. You block them and move on. If they can't respect you enough to keep the plans they aren't date/wife material. Unless there is a damn good reason to cancel.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNot sure but if I cancelled a date last minute I should still have to pay the girl.
00 Reply3.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. She found a guy she wants to pursue, you were just on the back burner
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI’m just commenting so this shit gets off my front page
00 ReplyI hate when that happens
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+1 ynerves... feelings... doubts...
00 Reply 8.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. They probably got a better offer
00 Reply15K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because they don't wanna go
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+1 yChad became free
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ySomeone richer is paying for her blow job
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yJust happens
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