You want guys to make the first move and pay but what do you offer him in return? What does a guy get in return? Do you put out on every single date where a guy makes the first move and pays? Do you cook? Do you clean? Do you offer anything? Or do you just get a free meal and leave?
Most Helpful Opinions
This piddly whining and blame gaming mindset embarrasses me as a Man. Stop ✋ It please.
Macro Resume determinations, such as criminal, credit, and medical record exchange, I understand. These Resume records show the heart, its intentions, behaviors, and the sum of the Real Person. What do you have to bring to the table ?
First girl to bring basketball 🏀 butt, defying Laws of Gravity, to the Table…. if she’s smart will end up with the my house 🏡 too…..24
You don’t really have to pay for dates. If the girl is offended or whatever than she is not for you. Why do you want to stay with someone you can’t match anyway. Problem is not if you pay or not the issue is you have to be with someone who thinks alike as you.
If you are let’s say Balkan/Eastern European men they usually pay no matter what! It comes down to culture how they are raised etc also keep in mind when men and women date in Balkan / Eastern European countries they date in “good” intentions for marriage mostly. And they keep relationships short in a year they get married if they click.
Same goes for Asian men.. and Asian women!17
Nothing. I bring nothing to the table ;)510
What Girls & Guys Said
No matter how much equality rights women attain, the reality will always be that men will always be the ones who value attractiveness more than women do, whereby men will always have a better chance at wooing an attractive woman through money than women would ever have if they tried paying attractive men for dates.1
@John_Doesnt Obviously you're used to whores, sluts and wannabe prostitutes. Cheap dimbos no decent man wants.
Useless cows give out on the first date everyone knows this. And you bitch about women not respecting men when you don't respect women 😒 ROFL. Pathetic
As for rich men getting Asian and East European wives, name one wasn't bought like a prostitute. Mail order brides.
I've lived in East Europe. Expect a woman to give out on the first date and it won't be her father that decks you, she'll do it herself. East Europe depending on the country it's very traditional feminist ideology and they'd laugh in your face.17
For me, I'm cool with making dinner and cleaning and all the womanly duties. Putting out? That's such an ugly word. I wouldn't even date a guy who uses a word like that. What is he a vagabond?
Anyway, when it comes to premarital sex, uh no. Waiting for marriage here. If we are not compatible in that regard he can kindly leave.
Do you guys see those cute videos on YouTube where women pack lunches for their husbands and they write a little note inside it that says I love you or I appreciate your hard work. I would love to do that for my future husband, that seems so adorable. You guys are probably like what the heck...
Anyway, so that's what I would do which isn't like super shocking or like a big deal. When I love someone, I want to do things that shows I care about him. It's like a no brainer.15
Stop paying for the whole date. This is 2023. Women have their own money. If they don't like you they won't want to spend their money. It's a great way to dodge people who aren't for you.433
You’re one of those MANOSPHERE losers aren’t you?
Dates aren’t only to show your “CRUSH”, that you’re not broke and a complete homeless loser.
They are so that she can get to know you. M—RON!
They are so that she can understand WHO exactly she’s talking to. So that the female who can become pregnant from sex, can know that the father of her offspring isn’t a PE—DOPHILE. 👶 That he isn’t a MU—ER. 🔪 That he is no XXX addict. That’s he’s no WEED LEACH. That he’s no DR—GIE 🚬.
From the answers I can see how mentally unstable some butt hurt Kerens are. If you don't have a way to answer a particular question just move on. Calling names isn't one of the ways smart men and women respond. Jesus Christ, where are the mods?32
Most women in the USA offer/bring next to nothing and are basically prostitutes. That is why so many get upset at a question like this. And if they say they bring the possibility of sex, that's definitely what they are. The man brings that too without needing money.0
feminism in a nutshell. gimme what I want but you won't get shit from me
but they swear up and down men and women are equal30
i only pay for myself on dates. because i support women and i believe that they are fully equal to men. hence i wouldn't take away their autonomy and power by just paying for their food. i'm not looking for a pretty kitchen appliance. i'm looking for a partner.0
I don't think there should be anything bought to the table on a date. I do believe dating is about getting to know eachother. I do think women should be bringing something to the table in a relationship though in terms of some kind of career which is what the dating is about.10
Why are women saying they repay by giving the guy sex, but then also complain about being objectified?
this question really sparked some deadly hate. Hilarious.
But to answer your question in some kind of way, I’d say the issue is something more frequent in the US. Europe and asia do not have this problem from what i have seen, at least not as much as how it is as compared to america1
Only if you're lucky you'll find a girl that will sleep with you on first date. It only happened to me 1 time. She also ended up being a hoe. She slept with anyone with a penis.10
I'll provide both my money and my body. In exchange he has to stay!!!18
Well after almost 2 years it finally happened. I will not say what it was, but I was forced to do something that I abhor.10
Dude chill a date is just a date.
You're just getting to know each other.
You're acting like you're getting married. 😂218
I have nothing to offer which is why i dont date50
More than 24 hours later and not one came up with anything but sex. Go figure21
Oh for gods sake. Why do broke men love whining about women using them for money. It’s always the broke ones!!! Listen, if you don’t wanna pay you don’t have to.1
I only dated decent guys so I wouldn’t know how to answer a question like this from guys like you.10
I feel like they shouldn't need to offer anything. If they feel a connection with the fella then whatever happens happens. Honestly the best results of the date I think is getting a second date and then hopefully eventually a relationship.0
Most Helpful Opinions
I see this comment 'They are so that she can understand WHO exactly she’s talking to. So that the female who can become pregnant from sex'
Bear in mind that the average modern woman has sex on the first date with guys she barely knows and uses the pill. You're wasting your time asking such questions. This culture is circling the drain and is hypocritical.
Ultimately women want the benefits without responsibility, and equality unless it doesn't benefit them. They want you to pay for the dates and everything else. But it's the fault of the man that continues paying for dates. Walk away until they start to appreciate you. As a man, a woman's life can be transformed for the better by having you in her life. They say they don't need men... but the roads they walk on wouldn't even exist without them...
not ALL women are doomed that way, just the western women. A lot of rich dudes are looking for wives in Asia and Eastern Europe where women still respect men.
This is very true, but the man must keep them away from becoming infected by the western culture as well.