Red pill, mgtow and incel are pretty different things.
Red pill is just being aware of societal control and the inevitable reality of government sanction unions like marriage. Red pill is pretty common and fairly broad at this point, especially in men 20-40 in America. Unless you date exclusively progressive men, many guys are going to have a few red pill opinions here and there.
Mgtow are typically guys who have been married and divorced and are abstaining from relationships. They may or may not date casually or have hookups. But by definition they are not going to commit, so dating them for long term probably won’t be beneficial to you.
Incels are typically younger guys who are bitter because they’re perpetually single, typically socially awkward and blame society and women for what they perceive as unfair treatment.
If he’s talking to you about dating multiple women it’s doubtful he’s an Incel. The whole polygamy thing with the alpha guys isn’t going to be conducive to a healthy relationship in my opinion. In fact, the whole transactional mindset is becoming way too common and is very toxic. I would find out some more of his opinions first, but if he keeps pushing some to this stuff it probably won’t be worth sticking around.
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that all sounds like some fake masculinity bullshit to me, a real man treats their women with respect and others with respect in general and has a normal and healthy mindset, all that alpha male bullshit is fake masculinity, trying to look tough and shit, they always feel like they got some bullshit to prove, it shows insecurity and a childish mindset, people like that just gotta grow up, being a piece of shit isn't being a man, its just the truth, thats alpha and beta crap is just a trendy plague thats been spreading around.
Definitely red flags. I wouldn’t waste time with that one.
It’s kind of true nowadays with women unfortunately
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No matter how much you guys call him a loser, label it fake masculinity or any other number of things... you should be asking yourself why she hasn't dumped him already and says she loves him. Obviously she's attracted to this type of guy...
Ironically, this is part of why I don't bother. Toxicity is what tends to attract as you can see here!
You can't fix him - as you know. If he has attitudes that don't match yours, then you are much better of ending things and finding someone compatible.
FWIW, based on what you are saying the guy sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant sort. "Alpha" - right. I don't think I've ever run into someone who describes themselves as "alpha" who wasn't pathetic.
Leave that pussyboy lol. Real men dont need to abuse people to feel like men. That's not masculine at all.
He's not going to change and this will become less and less tolerable over time. End it.
Yiu obviously dig that. If a date told me he couldn't commit to one woman I'd be gone already
The “can’t commit to a single woman” part should be enough for you to make up your mind
Let him go. There's no point in being with a guy if you refuse to show him any respect.
Well he's not wrong. But it sounds like his view are inconsistent with yours, so best to dump him.
You need to dump his ass. He won't change anytime soon.
Tell him to chill the fuck out and bye bye
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