What's the actual process by which you can get a date?

[uwotm8e]

I've put as much work into myself as I can, and it feels as though I've been fed a bunch of lies. Nothing really comes from it.

I've brought my body fat percentage down, built up some muscle definition, finish my degree, got a nice job, a few indoor and outdoor hobbies, new friends, volunteer for a couple different orgs... but none of that seems to matter. I can't even get a smile returned to me from women.

Is there anything that can be done that doesn't involve getting an entirely new face?

[_Maya_]

Well no one is going to know that about you when they first meet you. We can't tell you do any of those things or hold a degree etc by looking at you. I guess my first question is where are you trying to meet girls? There are good places and bad ones to look for girls. Bad would be online dating (in my opinion) and bars. I work at a bar and see the failure right in front of me. Good places would be like the places you volunteer or other things you do where there are groups of people doing the same thing you enjoy.

[uwotm8e]

I enjoy hiking, the gym, surfing. All of which are environments that are highly discouraged trying to approach women. Volunteer things are not what they seem. The only people that do that are highschoolers, empty-nesters, and more single guys. That's near universal with all the ones I work with.

Even if there were people there, how would things even work that they would agree to go out? I have plenty of friends that are women (legitimate friends), but I've never been attractive enough to receive a yes from anyone

[Anonymous]

None of that stuff matters to me when a guy asks me out.

[uwotm8e]

What would? Assuming he's not that physically attractive

[Opinion Owner]

Whether I like him enough to date him.