I ask this because I imagine it's not so attractive to hear a guy talk about how he can't get women. If you find him attractive, you'd probably want to hear him talking about something else. Something that would make him seem more capable & competent? Or maybe you don't mind if he presents himself as inadequate in certain areas? What are your thoughts?
Incel is a term that innocently started out as just men who were virgins and felt they couldn't get laid.
That is no longer what is associated with the incel community. It's now synonymous with misogyny and hatred. It's a community that has very vocal members who have committed mass killings and who hate women and even celebrate raping women and the death of women. Its a group who refer to women as "foids" because they see women as not even being human beings. They even have there own lexicon in there community and behave almost cult like. There are whole forums and websites dedicated to the incel community full of incels that breed hate and some actually are on the FBI watchlist.
So yeah If a person calls themselves an incel. I pretty much see a hateful and repugnant human being. I don't care why they are hateful, I don't give a shit for their bullshit reasoning for being addicted to hate. Elliot Rodger was a piece of garbage. He had no excuse. Neither do any of the others that push hate.
Yes, ma'am, but to my understanding, the mentally unstable, potentially violent men who are categorized as incels represent only a very small percentage of them. Hopefully, by talking about this and making women aware of the possible pitfalls, more people will gain a better understanding of this segment of society.
They always say that but at what point is it no longer a vocal minority?
Pretty much 99.9 percent of any interaction I've had with an incel, there's always misogyny involved. There's always negative comments made about women as a whole. I've only literally ever had one encounter in my whole life with an incel that wasn't somehow about that person resenting women over something.
So what are the odds I just happen to only run into the vocal minority? Where are the incels that are peaceful? Where are the incels that don't blame women? I've never run into them.
I like to think I'm an example of how wonderfully positive being involuntarily celibate can be. Of course I'm frustrated beyond comprehension, and the unending insults and verbal abuse I'm subjected to is utterly degrading, but I appreciate the kindness and support of the women who recognize the value of having a weak beta male wimp who wants nothing more than to humble himself to them and adores them unconditionally.
You are the only person I've spoken to that called themselves incel that actually didn't hate women. You are extremely rare though
Most of what you said has truth, but there is still a difference between men talking about how women reject them left and right and being unfair and harboring true misogyny and hatred of women.
I don't disagree that their communities and forums can be very toxic for the psyche if not outright promoting violence and celebration of rape.
Isn't like that men can be the only jerks in society either.
Incels just need to take turns blo*ing and fu*king each other, if not already, and then they wouldnât be involuntarily celibate. Just Infags.
I didnât know that either. Thanks.
@Pohjolan. Exactly. I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of incels who cause trouble isn't all that much more than the male population in general, and we also have the added benefit of being sweet, gentle and *exhausted* most of the time, because the constant teasing we're forced to endure keeps our little nuts well drained and harmless on a 24 hour basis. Unfortunately, there have been several highly publicized incidents that have cast a very negative light on pussy free wimps like us, but I'm hopeful that we'll soon be regarded as the wonderful eligible bachelors we truly are. Want to have a husband or boyfriend that you can keep frustrated most, if not all of the time? Here we are, sweet and chaste, so make us yours, with all post haste:)
@Peter_Penetrator And she still wants to be anonymous even to this day lol
Misogyny is a thing but misandry is also a thing. The internet just makes it easier for humans to be horrible to each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQv8VuLpKN4
@ericclayton Very interesting video. Thanks, fellow.
I know a few guys that are the silent, play it off pimp types... my ex roomie is 1, so I'm interested to see how good these ladies character judgement is, because I'm betting it isn't worth squat. My ex roomie plays TF outta them... has them doing all kinds of sh**... making fake credit cards with credit lines at their jobs and giving them to him... paying his bills, crawling on the floor at 3am sloppy fd up talking about how they "have to go to church" in a couple hours, etc. He wears short sleeve silk suits, the shades, keeps the poker face, listens to R&B, has the booming car system, doesn't talk much publicly... all that crap. But it takes 1 to know 1... and I CAN TELL... I strongly suspected this... so 1 day in the apartment, I asked him..."D, were you sexually assaulted by a female when you were a kid, by an adult female?" I'm not kidding... he stared at me unblinking for a good 10 seconds solid... then nodded his head up and down. Know what's ironic? So was I, that's how I knew. That's why I only trust immigrant females... the main reason. But what ladies don't know is... guys like that do that... because they HATE women... not because they're trying to impress you with status. They want to degrade you, just like what was done to them when they were too young to defend themselves. We react in different ways. The American ladies don't flock to me because I'm what they'd call 1 of those incels... which is ironic, because I don't even TALK to them... pet alone want anything from them. But I bust my ass to give my own new clothes, cash and assistance to immigrant moms and their kids. He won't give anyone a dime or ANY help... but he dresses the part, stares at the booty and plays it cool... and they all flock to him... and HE'S THE ONE WHO HATES THEM.😏
Do you even know what âincelâ means? It means âinvoluntarily celibateâ. Does that sound attractive to any body lest yourself?
A long time ago I was dating a girl I really loved but I didnât want to be in a relationship with at the time. I had things I had to figure out at the time but I couldnât get myself to break up with her. I was really scared about how things were going on in my life and I one time called myself âa cowardâ in front of her.
Iâm no coward. I know Iâm not. Iâve been self sufficient and independent my entire life. I clean up my own messes. I fight to stay alive and donât rely on others. She didnât understand the context and at that moment lost all respect for me. In a way I wanted to turn her off because I didnât want to be in a relationship anymore (method huge mistake and I recommend never doing it).
But words have power. She didnât understand the context I was using it in. And the way she looked at me after that made me believe the worst case scenario about mysled was true (even though it really wasnât). Yes it accomplished my goal of getting her turned off and breaking up with me. However it also gave me huge regrets that I still feel to this day (this was almost 10 years ago). I noticed other parts of my life got exponentially more difficult (other people outside of my relationship strangely got more antagonistic) The âcatharsisâ wasnât worth it in the slightest. No.
So do not ever call yourself an âincelâ. No. It can become a self fulfilling prophecy you donât want.
I find it okay for men to admit to me that theyâve been celibate for a while. It doesnât matter to me whether its voluntary or involuntary. I know dating can be tough and relationships can be difficult to come by sometimes. I also donât do the hookup thing so I tend to gravitate towards men that donât do hookups either.
but you are a virgin?
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Most people don't know this, but it was actually a Canadian girl who created the term incel back in the late 90s. Google it, you will find it. She used it referring to her own self and others who were virgins and socially inexperienced. To this day she still speaks about incel-ism from time to time but always remains anonymous. This is why I find it such a joke that we are calling guys this thing.
Women love shy virgin men. Or they pity them sometimes you just can't tell.
Where do you hear that from? If anything, I hear how society makes fun of or outright despises virgin men.
@KlinkyCoder On GAG mostly. There are more questions from women on how to get a shy guy to like them then any other under dating.
@KlinkyCoder look at that... the word shy guy got highlighted by GAG because it's such a popular hashtag.
Someone who claims incel as an identity is statistically more likely to commit murder or domestic terror attacks than he is to get with me.
Incel is a red flag. Someone who *likes* being called an incel and labels themselves as such? Proto-psychopath. Zero interest. Negative interest.
What would be the motive for telling a woman that you are an incel (can't get laid but wish you could)? To make her pity you like a lost puppy?
It just shows weakness and lack of desirable qualities. What woman wants a weak man who whines about his lack of success in life and expects pity.
It's about as attractive as saying that you flunked out of high school, can't a job, live with your parents and have a tiny penis.
Also the word incel indicates a preoccupation with sex. Bringing it up shows that you are thinking about sex instead of trying to get to know her and letting her get to know your good qualities in the hope of forming a relationship. A smart person would try to show their good side.
Just to be clear, being an incel is different from being voluntarily celibate. Being voluntarily celibate could be attractive if it meant that you were holding out for the right woman.
I agree.
And with that part about a preoccupation with sex is very true.
When someone identifies as an incel, they are making their identity centered around how much sex they are getting, and letting the world know.
Itâs like introducing oneself by saying, âHi, my name is ____ . I want sex but canât get any.â
Itâs immediately off-putting and self-serving.
I technically fall under the old description of it. I've been single my entire life, I'm 31... it really has not been for the lack of putting myself out there, even though I'm a decent looking guy, i always work on bettering myself, and helping those around me, women don't seem to find me attractive. I honestly don't understand how or why. But... from experience in my youth, it is better to never refer to yourself as an incel, let alone use the word. People tend to jump to the worst conclusions automatically. The word "incel" no longer is a conjecture word for "involuntary celebrate", but has a whole new meaning entirely. Incel's new description is "a rude, woman hating person (typically men), that sexually objectifies and verbally assault women"
... like i said, best to never even use that phrase. It turns everyone off
I feel like most guys who say they are incel have been hurt by woman or rejected by a lot of women so they use it as a self defense mechanism. I've noticed when you take the time to show them that not all girls want to rip out their hearts and can be kind they tend to soften up on it. I feel like people are so afraid to get hurt or rejected they hide behind these labels to scare away people
I am not a woman, but still I think I can answer. First of all men should realize that your problems are yours only. No one, particularly women care what you are facing, that is one drawback of being a man. You either break or build yourself. Admitting that you are an incel immediately lowers your sexual mean value (SMV) in front of women, it means that you are not peer selected, if other women don't want you than why would she.
My advice would be that never disclose that you are a virgin or that you have not been intimate with someone for prolonged period. Lie, just like women do. And regarding the status of being an incel, if legal hire a professional in your state and always work on yourself. Fitness and Finances. Remember, there are no ugly rich men. Once you make it to the top 10% you can fulfill all your desires that you were denied.
Omg yes. That being said, I have no problem at all with guys who have no or very little experience with girls as long as theyâre sweet and good natured and willing to learn about other genders besides their own.
That's cool. So many are like that nowadays
Yes as does a self proclaimed man whore. I'm not into people whose whole personality is how much use their dick gets.
I'd think it ticks pretty much every box in the "turn off" column. Men who are certainly going to be the worst possible at sex, who also define themselves by how they can't think of anything else, and also have been using their perceived victimhood to justify developing absolutely no other useful knowledge or skills whatsoever.
Well yeah. If someone can't get a date, there's always a really good reason for it.
I think you need to consider gender roles.
Men typically want a woman they like, are attracted to, and they know has feminine qualities which generally are loving and caring in nature
Women want guys that they like, are attracted to, and denote masculine qualities which are generally strength, decisiveness, integrity (just a lot of women are not good at determining what this last quality looks like😆).
So when you're referring to yourself as an (incel) you're asking a woman to take pity on you. And she may. And she might even like you. But in the way you like a wonderful animal. You're not attractive to her. You're pitiful to her.
So run the other direction? In terms of ever forming a relationship? Yeah. You're doing the opposite of what you want to accomplish.
u Definitely. With the âIncelâ title comes misogynistic behaviours and beliefs. I wouldnât want to date anyone who puts down women to make themself feel superior. Itâs pathetic.
I don't think most people who identify as an incel are misogynistic. Incel just means (to most that identify) that they feel like they can't get laid or form long term intimate relationships.
Incel - a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile towards women and men who are sexually active.
Hostility towards sexually active women is a form of misogyny in my books.
Why women do it all the time
If people act like that, that would be misogyny by my books as well. But I still don't think most are like that. There are so many self proclaimed incels now that it's like saying the average male is misogynistic. But I think it's a bit more complex than that. Most probably aren't. Hell, most probably aren't even commenting about it online. The ones that are bitter just probably tend to be more vocal about their bitterness.
This is just speculation ofc. I have no evidence to back this up.
A lot of your Incels need to be on crazy meds and stop self medicating.
Then their attitudes towards life might change thereby helping to attract the opposite sex.
What woman wants to be with a dude that is so damn unhappy, he tries to bring her down to his level of cynicism.
Yes Turn Off.
INCEL is also Sexually Unappealing. Unattractive. Undesirable.
Which means bad genetics and no social skills. Iâm not reproducing with bad genetics.
https://youtu.be/gK1w1cAKS7o
I think no woman in her right mind is about to reproduce or f-k BAD GENETICS. Cause we risk something called âpregnancyâ. Something youâre not familiar with đ
Who is that middle finger meant for? đ€Ł
Incels
What if you're interested in a guy because you find him attractive but then find out he thinks he's an incel?
Lol thatâs not even possible. đ
Youâre only an INCEL because females donât go out of their way to seek you out.
Women literally go out of their way to meet and sleep with hot men. They donât even hold back. Cause hot men are rare. Theyâre like diamonds or gold in the female eye. JUST because theyâre so scarce. Limited. I donât think such guys exists. Hot INCEL? Give me a break đ
The only time Iâd see that happening is if the hot guy in question has serious mental health issues or behavioral issues were he comes off as âWEIRDâ to women. Thatâs the only time.
Entertain the possibility. Let's assume they're a normal man who's attractive enough to grab your attention. Would him believing he's an incel change your attractiveness towards him?
Ummm. I have no idea. He would have to know the definition of INCEL. Involuntary Celibate.
And if he knows the definition of INCEL, it means he agrees that he identifies with that category. He would have to realize that women are always rejecting him. All women are rejecting him. Every last one of them.
Do you know SKIPPY THE 40yo VIRGIN? That! For example is the perfect example of an INCEL.
https://youtu.be/_qEKqvkgyWM
I think that once every woman has rejected you for the length of 5 years or more. Definitely you can then be considered INCEL. Otherwise no. Specially at your age 23 is still so young. I was a virgin until 22. If youâre nearing your mid-30âs. Thatâs CONSIDERED INCEL. @sonorous
@sonorous
If youâre nearing your mid-30âs and still a virgin.. THATS CONSIDERED INCEL!
Someone like you still has time to turn things around before you get erectile disfunction in your 30âs.
Let me share this list with you so that it can help your masculinity. Or so that you could help anyone else that needs it:
How To Be Highly Masculine In 2023 â
How To Be Highly Masculine In 2023 (PRT-2) â
This isn't about me đ€Ł I'm a volcel if anyone want's to label it. I specifically have choosen to avoid sexual encounters with women. I just really don't want kids or the other responsibilities that comes with trying to mate & date. That whole thing is kinda cringe for me.
Now I don't believe any guy can truly be an incel. Mainly because if he's getting rejected by women he comes across, it's still not even gonna be from a sizable chunk of the entire gloabal population (of women). So, unless he's deformed or diseased, he cannot truly come to a conclusion that he's undesirable to most women. Only the small percentage of women who have turned him down. No matter his age.
Guys like skippy will always feel like an "incel" so long as they keep shooting above their tier. I mean, the guy doesn't even have the social skills to not come across as weird or a threat... Let alone having the charisma someone would need in order to have large success with his looks, weight, personality, interests, etc.
So is your answer just an "I don't know?" It's not a hard one to answer really. It's either a turn off for you or not. Let's assume that he's been turned down by many women before. But you find him physically attractive. And he identifies as an incel.
Then Iâd be turned off. Because if your gonna go and tell me that your an INCEL..
That means all the women alive right now are rejecting you. And to me; Iâm gonna think theyâre rejecting you for a reason. Probably an obvious reason. Or a no so obvious reason. But theyâre all still rejecting you, one after another.
It could be your character, the depth of your voice, your voice could sound feminine due to low testosterone, it could be the size of your d-k. It could be that youâre wayyy to short. I mean below 5â6 or 5â5. It could be that you literally stink/ smell bad. It could be your breath. It could be that you use dr**gs. It could be a plethora of things that are making all these women turn you down.
So yes! Being a self-proclaimed INCEL, IS A BAD IDEA AND A TURN OFF.
Hey, nobody wants me. No one has f*ked me. And Iâm gonna think, ââdamn somethings wrong with this guy. No girl wants to even touch him. SEE YA! đŹđŹđŹââ
@sonorous
And thereâs no such thing as voluntary celibate đ I know too much about testosterone, male psychology. Biology. Nature and the Animal Kingdom. 23 is an age where a man is at his horniest. All through your 20âs youâre at your prime. Youâre ready to go.
Every single species wants to preserve itself (survive) and reproduce (have sex). I just find it so funny when one of you tells me itâs voluntary. Common sense tells me itâs not. Iâm sorry itâs not voluntary.
And if you keep wasting time youâre just end up with erectile disfunction unable to reproduce. Or if you reproduce too old. Your sperm will be low quality, and your baby can be born with defects. Itâs why Iâm saying work on your own desirability.
I made those two lists myself. I took my time. I even provided videos to help you. Always look in the mirror and always look to yourself.
Many guys only feel as if they are an incel even though they haven't had all women alive rejecting them. That was my point. Many are misguided. They only believe that they are an incel. It's not possible to be rejected by every woman alive.
đ€Ł But thanks for your opinion though. I'll be sure to rely to all incels that I see that it's harming their chances. Even if they're attractive. The label itself is harmful.
Now as for the volcel bit, all this isn't very important to me. But I will say that I do feel the testosterone in me wanting to prove myself worthy and capable and all. But I ignore it best I can. I understand that it's just biology. Helps that I have hyperacusis, making being around people & sounds an uncomfortable experience. I've seen relationships not work out so I understand the possible futility of it all. Also helps that I fundamentally disagree with things like procreation. I don't want kids or to be in a relationship. It all makes me cringe. I view it as unethical in a way to want to continue our species. To willingly participate in generating beings capable of suffering.
So yeah, I don't really need help. I'm not short, I'm probably a 5-6 in looks so I'm not terrible looking, I'm smart enough to carry a conversation & not be seen as weird like skipp đ€Ł, I know how to smell nice, I workout & have a nice looking body, etc. The only reason why I say that I'm volcel is to combat people calling me an incel just because I'm a virgin. đ€Ł Women have wanted to date or have sexual intercourse with me in the past & I've turned them down. Now I can't speak for the future but I'm pretty sure I'll still not want kids. I've never in my life wanted to reproduce.
Ok⊠everything youâre telling me right now. Sounds like mental health issues. No offense. But a guy, talking about.
- I donât want to reproduce
- I donât want kids
- It makes me cringe
- generating being capable of suffering
- women have wanted sexual intercourse with me
All of this. Off the bat. Sounds like mental health issues. No normal, sane dude. Says this type of shT. And in this age. Thereâs condoms and pills capable of stopping any pregnancy. Specially due to overpopulation.
Literally⊠honestly.. right now.. this era, this age, where abortion and pills exist.
Is the perfect time for you to take advantage and have fun with women. đ€š literally this age this era is perfect for NEVER reproducing.
There are even FEMALE condoms.
There are a PLETHORA!! Of birth control options available right now as you breathe. đ€š
And every single person alive right now in this age is taking advantage of all that.
Iâm 25. I lost my V at 22. Itâs been 3 years Iâve been fucking. And Iâm STILL not a mother!
Literally you can go and seek an INFERTILE woman. If you want to. Thereâs SO MUCH WOMEN with PCOS like me, and other conditions that make us infertile.
Now youâre sounding f**ing stupid!
You think I was born yesterday?
I bet your like Skippy
@_piotr
No I donât what the hell!!! Iâm trying to help them. I talk about atrazine and toxins in food that is harming you!! đĄđĄ
You might have a point regarding potential mental aspects, considering that there could be aspects of my wiring that aren't quite in sync. However, I want to assure you that my perspectives are not born from delusion but rather grounded in reality. These conclusions have their roots in actual patterns that I've observed, and they align with those of other rational individuals who base their conclusions on well-founded premises and observations, not merely flights of imagination. đ
As for the emotional aspects that color my thoughts on these matters, they largely stem from personal preference. They are influenced by my life experiences and philosophical outlook on life. These aspects, in my estimation, don't indicate any mental unwellness.
While I recognize the technological advancements in contraception, I remain convinced that no contraceptive method can be regarded as foolproof. I've even witnessed instances where pregnancy occurred despite the use of birth control pills, condoms, etc. This demonstrates that potential negative consequences could still emerge, potentially leading to feelings of regret. Thus, avoiding these scenarios altogether seems more sensible to me, to circumvent any potential regrets.
From my perspective, there will always be men capable of providing women with the enjoyment or companionship they desire. Currently, my focus doesn't revolve around that aspect. Additionally, my experience with an ear condition forces me to deal with considerable discomfort around people. To give you an idea, I rely on in-ear monitors constantly to block out specific frequencies, particularly those within the high mids and treble range. I can't even do the dishes without wearing hearing protection.
I want to emphasize that I'm not attempting to deceive or manipulate you with these thoughts. I'm speaking genuinely.
As for your "I bet you're like Skippy" comment, I will just laugh! đ€Ł
Sorry, but toxins in food and water are nothing compared to your posts and "masculine" guides. You just want to downgreade men to primitive, aggressive, mindless animals or you just see us this way. That is disgusting.
And that is also why you do not understand that some men can have no need for sex.
Oh you have a defectâŠâŠ!!!
OhhhhâŠ. Well that changes everything. Youâre disabled. Yeah women arenât trying to clone someone disabled. Thatâs probably in your genes. YIKES!! đŹ sorry to hear that.
I still donât think itâs voluntary though. I just donât. I bet women learn this about you. And they opt out from reproducing with you. They literally reject you because of that.
You write like weâre in English class. Stop trying to write like youâre smart. THATS CRINGE!
Like I said I just donât believe that. Youâre a MALE. At 22 I wasnât getting fucked due to obesity. And I couldnât take it anymore. I literally changed my lifestyle because I wanted to feel a manâs arms, I wanted to hear his voice , I wanted to touch his skin. I wanted to feel a real life dick inside of me. Iâm a female, and I was craving real life sex like fucking crazzzy.
I can only image you đ«” as a male with testosterone. That shT must be driving you madd!
You literally can pay for âsexâ and those women donât ever have babies. You literally can be with a woman over 40 and sheâll e infertile. You literally can find a female with PCOS or no uterus. Youâre lyin ass b-ch đ«”
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To most people, my hyperacusis isn't something readily apparent unless I explain it to them. However, even when I do, many don't perceive it as a serious disruptive flaw or a serious disability. It's something I sort of wish they would, to an extent, because it truly disrupts my day-to-day life. It can be frustrating when people view me as completely normal, which can lead to both annoyance and physical discomfort. I genuinely wish that hyperacusis received more recognition and understanding.
Considering the nature of my condition, I wouldn't be shocked if some individuals were to distance themselves from me due to it. However, my lack of interest in pursuing relationships means I don't really seek out such interactions, so no one has actually rejected me on those grounds.
If I'm feeling aroused, I address it. When I crave touch, I give myself a simple pat on the back. I suppose you could say I'm quite uncomplicated in this aspect.
I choose to communicate this way not to come across as intelligent, but to ensure that my thoughts are crystal clear. In conversations like these, without being unambiguous, misunderstandings might arise.
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âLack on interest in relationshipsâ
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I guess just remember that there are always exceptions to the rule. I am just a (possibly temporary) deviation from the norm.
Incel is not a self-proclaimed label, it's a condition in which a man who would like to get laid can't.
@normalice I don't think it makes me special, I just love it when they know I never get any, so they can have fun at the my expense:)
I believe it is a self-proclaimed label. You can't diagnose someone with inceldom đ. Everyone can find someone. Many people simply feel like they're incels/identify as being one only because things haven't worked out for them so far.
@Billlewis đ€Ł I hate being teased. I'm all in or all out. For instance, if I see that a woman is not fully interested in me, my mind will just focus on something else to better occupy it.
I can never see myself as an alpha male. But if I'm one, then every man has to be one. đ€Ł
I wouldn't mind casual sex if it weren't so easy for women to get pregnant. But even if it weren't, I feel that I'd still rather seek out a sexual partner to form a bond with.
Maybe it is in my nature to be promiscuous. But I was raised as a Christian so maybe that tames that part of me. The desires are still there but I also deeply acknowledge the harms. Especially for the future of society. Certain behaviors just aren't as helpful & could cause inadvertent suffering.
@Billlewis for one thing, the fact that you're so excited by it means it doesn't qualify as "involuntary."
@normalice Fair enough, but you could say that about practically any other genre of the BDSM lifestyle. It's all based on role play and fantasy.
Incel = involuntary celibates. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now the term incel is laughable in my opinion. It's like giving up before even trying all options. I believe it's impossible not to be attractive to some people. Hell, I've even seen deformed people who attracted a mate. Sure, they had to find someone in their looks range, but they still found someone.
@Billlewis - If you're having sex with your tongue, isn't that still sex? đ€Ł
Exactly, people are so ignorant, most incels don't label themselves incel, it is women that give them the label.
It's better to keep that to yourself. If she asks if you've been with someone for a while, just give a rather non committal answer like, " I haven't been interested in someone for a while". Probably sounds a lot better than what I usually say.
I would worry about the "incel" label because of that community's view of women. I wouldn't be worried about the person being a virgin. I was a late bloomer/had to deal with entering the dating world in my late 20s and it was super awkward. I can relate to that but would be worried about the ideas that the incel community seems to believe/spread.
I mean, if I don't learn to back off already they eventually show me why other girls aren't interested in them. It's absolutely a turn-off.
complete turn off, doesn't matter how hot he is i'm out
Even a guy with his looks?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7MrHZqul9gg
yea, cos if he's an incel he probably has an extremely terrible personality and he'd probably end up like beating me and stuff
đ€Ł okay he would definitely be an anomaly
that all depends!
as long as you look like Tom Cruise and/or make 6 figures then you can call yourself and incel all you want and women will doing anything in their hands to proof you otherwise
Bullshit, most incels don't call themselves incels, women make them incels by rejecting them otherwise they would not be incels. And women are the ones that are quick to label men incels usually just for disagreeing with them on something.
Or particularly for criticizing womens relationship preferences whereas women criticize men for not taking on their baggage.
Nobody likes to hear you whine about how you "can't" about anything, not just your inability to get pussy. Too many men treat women and pussy as their only goal in life.
yes because incels are more likely to be serial killers
why wouldnât it be a massive turnoff. Imagine watching a commercial for a restaurant that said âour food is awful, no one is gonna want to eat it. You customers are shitty for not buying our food.â
I'm what I like to refer to as a 'good' incel -- I'm involuntarily celibate, but I'm also very sweet, kind and generous, without all the attitude problems.
Whiny spoilt child isnât really the vibe I look for in someone I want to sleep withâŠ
Probably would be a pretty bad red flag for a potential guy to call himself an incrl.
Any label that creates weakness is a waste of time, even if it is true. It's absolutely pointless and of course will create lack of attraction.
@Billlewis then he could just say he's more interested in getting to know her spiritually than sexually. What need is there for the incel label?
Women are competitive and want a man that other women also want. So I think an incel identity will persuade them not to be interested.
If heâs truly an incel, he would not even be talking to another woman in the first place. If heâs in the dating market saying heâs an incel, he is playing hard to get.
I would imagine pretty much so, and even if the genders were reversed I would have a little bit of reservation if a woman told me she can't get any men.
not really, at least they are being honest
The second sensible response so far.
Yes, no woman wants someone that insecure.
A turn off for sure. Nothing scares us off more than a man that doesn't believe in himself.
stop telling women you get no bitches lol
Exactly đ€Ł
no i would wanna know why
Without looking at the post i already see how practicable the opinions are
Yes lol
Of course it would.
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