What makes us attracted to certain body types?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Asian women evolved the way they did, because that’s what Asian men preferred this,

Being from a country that is on the crossroads of Eastern Europe, Middle East, Western Asia - My country’s phenotypes are very versatile, you can meet ethnic Georgians who look like Slavs, or Spanish or Middle Eastern or Japanese. You can literally find anything there.

But one thing is universal - Men in Georgia just lose their minds when they see a woman with curves. So Georgian men are not a big fan of Asian body types.

As for me, I have noticed that I, too, like strong pronounced bodies, not very slim. I have seen men with very muscly slim legs, but I have thought that because their legs are so slim, they are not fit for me. Because my dad has very muscular body and legs and I, too, have more pronounced legs than Asians here.

So, when I see someone with slim legs, I feel like I might be gentle to him, because I feel like he’s fragile. My coworker is of Slavic descent, he’s got this broad shoulders, very nice figure but very slim legs.

I know he’s not fragile and is much stronger than me, but that’s what’s my first association in my mind.

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7 mo

I think maybe, my ex fiancé, also left some trace in my mind as to what I find attractive?

He was the physical ideal of what I think a man should be like.

I understand that I will most likely never meet a man like him anymore.

He had broad shoulders, very slim waist, perfect V shape and very muscular, long, thick legs.

If I could cast someone in Terminator, I’d cast him as a Terminator.

Maybe when I actually see that slim legs are not a sign of weakness, I will change my attraction?

[Lliam]

Dang, girl! When you said "I feel like I might be gentle to a guy with very muscly slim legs, because I feel like he’s fragile" it prompted images of what kind of energetic stuff you get up to. 🥵 😛 😂 (I'm teasing you)

But seriously, everyone has preferences. Yours are totally understandable.

The ideal shape for men's and women's bodies are totally different. You described the male form perfectly - wide shoulders, triangular torso, narrow hips, bulging muscles. Men look best when they are lean and muscular. That used to result from hard work. I have farmer relatives who are jaw dropping. I have to admit that overdeveloped, body builder bods kind of make me sick. Those guys do that purely for looks. They're not even athletic. I assume it's narcissism. They like to look at themselves.

On the other hand, with the onset of puberty, the female pelvis expands. Women also develop fat on their hips, butts, thighs and breasts during puberty. It's that healthy fat that softens the outline of the muscles and gives women their curvy figures.

Another reason for the fat is, women at some point in their lives may nourish a fetus and then a baby from their own reserves, so women have to stock energy in the form of fat. Essential fatty acids are also transferred from those reserves to the fetus and infant.

Wide hips are an indicator that a woman can bear children. And natural (healthy) fat deposits in the right places indicate that a woman can produce and nourish healthy offspring.

I don't think men are conscious of why they are attracted to the female form. I think it is more pre-programmed; instinctual. But, needless to say, men love women's waist to hip ratio, boobs, rounded hips and thighs, and plump, cushiony butts. Men love the sight of bouncy and jiggly, as well as the soft, supple, squishiness of female flesh.

The evolutionary development of sexual dimporphism, including women's shorter stature and diminutive upper bodies is attractive.

Again, it's all pre-programmed.

But that doesn't account for personal preferences for taller or shorter, large or small breasts, slender or thick hips, butts and thighs. Plus, some men are attracted to muscular women and some to women who are soft.

I think people develop preferences at some point as a result of environmental factors, like where they grew up, what their relatives looked like, what social circles they engaged with, what celebrities they crushed on.

I think my ideal was influenced by the models in Playboy magazine when I was in my teens. All my girlfriends had a certain type of figure. But it wasn't until years later that I also realized that I had, and had always had, a preference for shorter girls.

[DummyThiccFeraligatr]

I've often wondered about this.

I'm attracted to darker women in part due to my pale skin that has always been prone to sunburn. I'd wish for my kids to be less predisposed to skin cancer than I am. And I like stout, robust gals, whereas I'm rather scrawny and poorly suited to the physical profession that I do (farming). Again, I guess I subconsciously want stronger children. I've always been a fan of taller girls / women also... I think there is a common theme here. lol.

What doesn't jibe with the above is my being all goo goo for very buxom women since I was a kid. There's not really any advantage to having extra glandular tissue, if historical East Asia is any indicator. So that one isn't practical.

There isn't a one-to-one correlation between what people historically found attractive and what the men or women actually looked like. For example: sub-Saharan African bros did and do have a very strong desire for "thicc" women, even among men in the diaspora. But, sexual attraction to breasts wasn't really a thing there (still isn't in many rural places), yet black women have the largest chest sizes of any major racial group when adjusting for diet and hormone exposure. And Arab men have liked blonde women for a long time, but there aren't many in the Middle East.

And don't even get me started about the effects of culture on what people like...

[DummyThiccFeraligatr]

Thanks for MHO.

[abbyjgriffin98]

Do you have some kind of an issue with Asians? I mean, it's great that you prefer thicker/curvier bodies but you don't have to talk down to and single out one race as if they are the only naturally skinny race in the world. Also, our figures have to do with a mixture of genetics and environment. Not just because Asian men said so. Asians tend to be slimmer, genetically, but they also prefer it that way. Just like women in the U. S. prefer to be curvy. So they eat less proportions than in the U. S. and diet more. I, however, am not like that. I was adopted from South Korea at 7 months and was raised in the U, S. and my body is not so skinny. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely slender. But I'm just not scrawny. My body is actually a mesomorph meaning I lose weight and gain muscle easily. I'm not overly voluminous because genetically I'm just not a very busty person. But, due to diet, my bust is larger than the average in South Korea. I am 4'10" and weigh 112lbs. My measurements are 35-25-37. My shoulders are 38. My true bra size is closer to a 32C but I can also wear a 30D (my bust is 35 and my underbust is 29). Also, my thighs and shoulders are the most pronounced features on my body as I lose most of my weight in my waist first and my shoulders and legs are naturally muscular/bulky, so don't even try that "more pronounced leg" thing on me. It's great to have preferences, but the fact you are only comparing yourself to Asian women and are massively talking down on Asian women shows me you have something you are trying to prove. So if you are trying to make yourself feel more confident by tearing an entire race down as if they are one in a nutshell, you are going fail. Because confidence is a feeling you carry within, not something you can accomplish by pretending you're better than others when really, you feel like shit.

[A_Bell]

Prior to WWII the height differential between Japanese and Americans was much larger than today. Much of that was related to diet, as many Japanese had low protein intake, eating many calories from rice and grains.

After becoming a wealthy nation, from what I read, they had better nutrition as children and pregnant mothers and now are more western in physique than they used to be.

I think your observations are pretty accurate.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I had an Asian ex fiancé, who I loved a lot, how am I having problems with Asians?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

What do you mean with “talking down” about Asians? Are you sure you don’t display some of your insecurities here?

I am giving examples that every person is attracted to different things. How is it offensive to an Asian, that Georgian men prefer Georgian women the same way Asian men might prefer Asian body types?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Also, you are the one displaying your measurements here as if we are having a contest and still, I am the one trying to prove something? Now that’s funny.

I live in Shanghai and I speak what I see and hear here.

[Lliam]

@abbyjgriffin98. I don't think she was implying anything negative about Asian women. She was just making general body-type comparisons. And she's right, different guys have different preferences. Women have different preferences, too. There's nothing wrong with that.

It's also important to note that women of any race or ethnicty can come in a wide range of shapes and sizes. Most Asian women are on the shorter side. Some are petite. And some, like you, are very curvy. I don't think LaFemmeFatale would dispute that.

I do have a couple things to say about your body, though. You're measurements are fantastic.
1. I happen to love short women. 4'10" is adorable.
2. Your waist to hip. ratio of.675 is ideal.
3. Your bust is impressive, too. But you're wrong about "true" bra size. With a 29" underbust measurement, a properly fitted bra would be 30DD.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@Lliam You seem to know Bra sizes so well! What would be the size of 68 cm under-bust and 87 cm bust?

[Lliam]

@lafemmefatale_1. I had to convert that to inches. I don't know how it's done in centimeters.
It comes to 34.25 bust and 26.75" under-bust.
Since bands are sold in even numbered 2" increments, you would to go with a 28", which would be quite comfy. You would probably start with a cup for a 34" bust. 34-28=6. In UK sizing, that would be a 28E and in U. S. sizing it would be 28DDD.

I understand that it is also helpful to do a leaning measurement, as well. So it's possible that you might go with a higher cup size - (F or FF UK/G U. S.). I don't know how that works.

Those cup sizes sound gigantic, but in reality, a 6" diff between bust and under-bust is not even large. It's medium.

Cup sizes are based on the diff between bust and under-bust measurements. 1"=A, 2"=B, 3"=C, etc.
Think about it, a three inch diff (true C cup) is really small. But people are led to believe that C is medium, D is large, and over D is bodacious. I used to make the same mistake until a wonderful GAG user who is a professional bra fitter educated me.

The problem, as I learned from that expert, is that women are almost always encouraged to get bands that are at least 2" to 4" too large. And every inch too large reduces the cup size by a letter.

So, if instead of getting a 28" band, you went with 30, your bra size would be 30D. Does that make sense?

I understand that the reason they do that it because it is cheaper for manufacturers to limit the number of available cup sides and to simply make larger bands.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@Lliam Thank you. Probably because of wrong bra sizes, I started hating bras early on at 17 and I have been going braless ever since.

Thankfully my breast is not big and I can easily walk braless without any discomfort.

[Lliam]

I think it's weird that wearing a bra underneath clothing became almost mandatory. Thanks to the power of marketing I guess.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@Lliam I agree!

[Lolahah]

I definitely think you are coming from a place of insecurities as well tho., I think both of y’all are triggered from being in a place where your body type is considered a minority. Like for you, living in Shanghai as a westerner (I’m assuming) , I’m sure the typical beauties there are smaller statured and skinner than the average western woman.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@Lolahah My body type is indeed a minority here, because if that I’ve modeled as a fitness model and have some offers to this day.

But yep, I can’t wear jeans without being stared endlessly and It’s okay, because I was also stared back in my country, but a month ago, I caught a biker driving behind me just to take video of my butt. That can get annoying sometimes, but mostly my experience in Shanghai is very positive.

And I like Asian people, my one and only love so far has been Asian as well.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

As for being petite, I am 48 kg, in my country I can wear European XS and S.

Here though, at 48 kg I am S.

[Lolahah]

I’m considered petite in the US., but I don't know how I was considered in Korea when I went last summer. But the thing is, you can’t really tell what exact size people are over there. I think grunge downtown girl fashion is in trend in Korea and everyone was dressed in big t shirts and loose jeans. I mean they still looked gorgeous but I was kinda shocked but they pull off the look really well.

[abbyjgriffin98]

"Asian women evolved the way they did because that’s what Asian men preferred this."
As if the only reason the average Asian is petite is to appease to Asian men.

[abbyjgriffin98]

"Men in Georgia just lose their minds when they see a woman with curves. So Georgian men are not a big fan of Asian body types."
You're not stating how Georgian men like Georgian women. You're stating how Georgian men don't like Asian women.

[abbyjgriffin98]

"I, too, have more pronounced legs than Asians here."
Now, you're just comparing yourself to Asian women.

[abbyjgriffin98]

Just a few examples.

Also, you're the one who sounds extremely insecure, considering you gave me crap about posting my measurements and how I was trying to "compete" with you. Meanwhile, I literally just saw you post your own measurements in the form of a question for the sole purpose of validation. I posted about my measurements to give an example that not all Asians are small and petite and how Asians raised in Western countries are more likely to be built due to the food they eat. You posted probably because you do feel the need to compete. But girl, I don't compete with women. If you're hot, then great. I'm hot, too. Also, if I have to compete with another woman for a man's attention, he's just not the right man for me. With the right man, you won't have to compete.

[abbyjgriffin98]

I also took a closer look at your profile picture. 1) You're skinnier than me. 2) You drew white lines all over your face. You have zero confidence, and it shows in this post. Maybe you don't have an issue with Asian women, in general. Maybe you are just bitter that you don't fit their standard of beauty. Maybe you are bitter that Asian men, like you said, prefer other Asian women. Maybe that's your issue with Asians and the need to compete.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Abby, thanks for taking your time to analyze my post.

I don’t even feel the need to explain anything, as I think your analysis is quite far from the truth.

If you believe, people are against Asians, so be it.

I’ve done my fair share to stand up for Asians, anywhere, I saw them getting the wrong treatment for their race, before, during or after pandemic.


So you’re barking up the wrong tree. But if barking is what you are after, keep doing it.

[abbyjgriffin98]

Only repaying the favor. Have a nice day.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

You too!

[4ngelic]

on one hand biology. like most people tend to like thin people not overweight ones, muscles for boys, bigger ass & tits for girls, cos biology. but then there's like your culture, what kind of people were around you growing up, your age, your first experiences with porn & sex, and stuff like that that can also influence what you like

for me when i was a teen i really liked super skinny boys like most girls cos that's just how boys look at that age. now my ideal is slim with muscle (but not crazy levels either) cos that's what's typically considered attractive for adult guys probably

[Avicenna]

Good question. When it's a woman of childbearing age, I prefer her to be curvy. If she is older than childbearing age, I prefer her to be skinny.

[EmyyWolf]

You’re an old F-K. No childbearing age woman is looking in your direction 😂😂😂😂

[Avicenna]

@EmyyWolf: And with your nasty personality, STDs and rotund body, no one of any age is looking at you, much less willing to touch you with a ten-foot pole.

[msc545]

People have different kinds of imprinting experiences relative to appearance during their early sexual experiences and perhaps even before that.

For instance, ask yourself why almost nobody likes obesity in their partner and it probably comes down to a lack of contact with obese people at very early ages along with the common perception that obesity indicates poor health and poor self-care.

I think these kinds of early experiences to at least some extent shape our adult preferences.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

In childhood I liked very slim guys, my first crush was half Georgian half Ukrainian blond blue eyed friend of my brother who loved me. In our summer village there were 2 boys every girl had a crush on, my brother and this boy.

My brother has greenish/bluish eyes and is brunette, that boy was opposite. For a very long time I liked blond blue eyes men who reminded me of him.

That was before 22, at 22 I chose my Asian ex over blond blue eyes date I had.

And since then I have been attracted to men who remind me of him.

I think I get this imprinting from every guy who has set deep impact on my life. So far, two guys.

That blond childhood crush of mine and my ex.

But I also think I am open minded, because at 22 I fell for someone who was opposite of my type at that time.

[JustMeQ2]

I would also say that our preferences are partly due to evolution and upbringing.
I can’t speak much about the evolution part.

Exposure to local cloture and Les exposure to others is why we prefer “our” cloture more. Yes.

Then you have people that find exotic (what that might be for the location) more attractive.
These people haven’t been exposed to this, yet they find it attractive.

These people don’t fit into the exposure theory.

[A_Bell]

It is what you learn. I grew up with guys (father, uncles and cousins since I only had sisters) that had a broad shouldered, square jaw and beefy thighs/calves and biceps. This is what I find physically attractive in men and never thought smaller framed guys did much for me.

If I was the same person but adopted by a Chinese family, I'd have a completely different opinion, probably.

[DizzyDesii]

I dont think I initially looked at body type. I looked at how cute the face was and all my dudes just so happened to have similar body types. Normally they were slim with toned arms and under 6 foot. I can really only think of like two or three who were chubby or ripped.

[HitsyHonesty]

My take on is my experiences with a person who just happened to have that bodytype.
If that person was sweet and caring, and I mert another one of the same bodytype, I think I might subconsciously hope he has those same lovable qualities that the former one had.

[crossdressingrihno]

Genetics, culture, religion, region and a ton of other stuff.


For starters I love tall women. I’m not really short I’m like 5,8 or 5,9 or something while slouching (I’m always slouching) but compared to my family I’m tiny. My cousins are married and all their wives are taller than me so I assume it’s genetic.


Culture has something to do with it as well. For example my stepmom is from Zimbabwe and where ever in Zimbabwe she’s from they prefer bigger women and thinner ones are viewed as unhealthy. But if you look in the United States they prefer women with deformed facial features and somewhat fit bodies.


Religion has its role as well but I won’t go into it.


Region plays a MASSIVE role in it. If you live in a desert your naturally going to want people with traits better for a desert and not someone like me who’s genetics are specifically built around living in cold environments where crops a hard to grow.

[Grond21]

I have wondered the same thing. Usually it seems informed by who you were raised by, which is why most people find others similar to them attractive. This is by far the most common.

I am an exception in my family though. They have light skin, brown hair, blue eyes, and are slender. They tend to find those traits most attractive too. Yet I like tan skin, black hair, dark eyes, and curves. I have always wondered what makes me different

[exitseven]

Very interesting post. I was always attracted to sturdy athletic girls. I am pretty clumsy so maybe I was afraid if I handled a girl too rough she would break.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Thanks.

I have the same feeling, when I see skinny legs, I have a feeling that If I am a bit too rough, I’ll break him.

And I am not generally a rough person but still, haha

[Still-alive]

Well definitely the media plays a big role here. women looking super thin in ads and in sports and such. i think how you grew up plays a role as well. like ever since i had my first crush i've tended to like women who look similar to her.

But personality has become way wayyy more important to me over time

[lightbulb27]

I thnk it's related to early life emotional experiences with those around us. Those whom we took to and made an impression on us. It may be oriented in our genetics and bacteria that make up whom we are.

[NamerOfStars]

You're mistaken. Asian women evolved that way because changing environmental factors gave a survival advantage to having those body types- sexual selection IS a factor, but FAR more for males than females (think of peacocks!), and in any case far less than natural selection.

[Chayce]

It goes back to the Hunter-Gatherer days. Men had to be strong & fast, & women with thicker legs & curves usually wouldn’t struggle during pregnancy or have problems post-delivery. That’s why they call them “child bearing hips”.

[RedInnocent68]

For guys, the hardwiring between our brain, eyes, and dicks. Everything else is inexplicable, and tangential. Girls are no different, just more subtle at times. Biology wants us to, well, fuck like bunnies. We’re the only animals that put this much thought into it.

[Nifrayu]

You can call it programming. It's just the way our brains are wired. Influenced by a combination of genetic based instinct and external stimuli. We can will ourselves to curb our attraction triggers, but we have a very limited amount of control over it.

[EmyyWolf]

Biology. Genetics. Fertility.
Culture. And Where we grew up.

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[normalice]

I suspect it has to do with what we see when we are younger. I like thin women and pretty much always will, myself. I can even see why other guys are attracted to "thic" women, but I simply am not.

[Nikki1989]

I have no idea, I only care about personality.

[Jennz6]

Personality traits are more important than body type

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Yes, I know. Personality is more important for me too. But this question is about body types.

[Jennz6]

Muscles 💪!!

[Flatmanlewis]

Not sure what it is that makes us that way but I suspect it’s hard wired into us. Personally, I like the petite hourglass woman.

[gorydetails]

At the end of the day, men are attracted to features they perceive to be markers of fertile women. Women are attracted to features associated with strength and the ability to provide and protect them and their children.