
Would average looking men have better chances with women if the internet didn’t exist?

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Great question. I do think average looking men would have better chances if the internet didn't exist.
Without the internet, women wouldn't be so picky. If they wanted a relationship or even just a hook up, they would have to pick from guys they actually met instead of scrolling through 10,000 men on-line.
And when they met men in person, they wouldn't just notice physical features. They would be able to see a man's behavior and character, which can make even a shorter and/or average looking man desirable.
Davy Jones, Al Pacino, Richard Dreyfus, Michael J. Fox, Martin Sheen, Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams, Dudley Moore, Robert Downey Jr., Mark Ruffalo, Mike Myers, Spike Lee, Martin Lawrence, Marc Anthony, James McAvoy, Dave Franco, Jesse Eisenberg, Bob Dylan, Alan Ladd, Gene Kelly, James Cagney, George Raft, John Garfield, Douglas Fairbanks, James Dean, John Cassavetes. The list is endless. All below average height, not all of them are chizzled or particularly handsome. Granted they are all talented and became famous, but I'll bet their charisma would have shown through even when they were young and not rich or famous.
When I was growing up, I new lots of guys who were on the shorter side (5'6"-5'9") and weren't drop dead handsome by Hollywood standards. But if they had any character, charisma and confidence at all, they had attractive girlfriends/wives.
With the internet, the idea of attractiveness has gotten totally out of whack. Men wouldn't be so picky, either. I mean, how is average unattractive anyway? This thing of scoring people 1-10 based on some subjective, undefinable standard of perfection is absurd, and it didn't start before the internet. I see cute, adorable girls all the time who wouldn't be considered classic beauties. And I see supposedly gorgeous female celebrities who I don't agree are all that attractive. It's only their makeup, glamor, public personas, and promotion as icons of beauty that people are attracted to. And then there are Instagram models who play the same game. How are normal people supposed to compete?
Instead of being active, fun, ambitious, motivated and sane, women now think they have to get plastic surgery, and men think they have to be over 6' tall, have gym bods and be wealthy to be attractive. The entertainment industry, the "beauty industry", and social media have created these artificial standards.
Women less picky men more faithful.
There's probably a lot of truth in that. The internet has probably been more beneficial for women and more detrimental for men as a whole. Because women tend to live in a fictional world to begin with. Most women today do not want the responsibility of a relationship which is why so many choose hookups and f*** buddies. These women can indulge thier fantasies from time to time and they satisfied with it. Men conversely it's more physical. Not saying that men do not have fantasies or have emotions. But men tend to display those more physically. But we have a world now where women sit at home and pet thier cat (yeah that's a double entendre😆) and indulge thier fantasies. This leaves your avg. Man (even if he is out and about and not behind a computer screen) with less options of women to pick from.
Social media has made people less social as a whole. You used to have to go out in the world and interact with people. Learn to read nonverbal communication. Etc. Now instead you can sit at home and create your own little world and sadly your own little reality. This has spilled over into our politics which is another subject that I won't get into.
I'm sure there are way more average looking men and women on Earth than good lookers. The internet has just made things too easy to screw up, in my opinion, because you may never find the right person on dating sites like you may in real life where you can actually talk to someone and at least have a chance.
Probably.
I think because it’s so easy to create this profile online of how you want people to see you or perceive you, it’s easier to maintain that lifestyle as long as it doesn’t translate into in person.
Meeting a person in public already presets expectations and there isn’t a reason to lie.
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The Internet is used for a wide variety of purposes, and I wonder if some aspects of life in regards to relationships might be a little bit simpler if it weren't around. That being said, many people have found a long-term significant other through online dating sites. Perhaps if folks didn't focus on looks quite so much and focused on being healthy and kind, the dating world might be a happier place.
If the Internet were not present, I wouldn't be able to dispense this opinion🤣
🤣🤣🤣 true
They wouldn’t have porn killing their natural drive and women won’t have the constant validation and attention they receive from screens
and people can start living again
Hard yes. Your honor this court is adjourned!
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Probably but I feel like life has sucked for a lot of people at a lot of different times in history and that's just how it is. I used to think about these questions too, to find a reason why my life was not going the way I wanted. But now that I'm older and I have a lot of things in life figured out these questions seem pointless to me.
You need to keep going in a direction that will improve your life in the long term and just stay determined (keep trying even if you have days weeks or months where you can't do anything) and things will get better over time. You'll have a better understanding of yourself and life and things won't seem as dramatic or bad because you'll know how to deal with things.
Nobody needs the internet for dating. Men have been brainwashed into thinking it increases their chances. Sad!
Nah, more like everybody got into the convenience of swiping instead of going out and meeting people. Men discovered a while ago just like women that online dating kinda sucks.. They still use it anyways.
the way the mindsets are now due to the internet, even if the net were raken out of play, it would only increase the chances for average men a small amount. now if we are talking pre-internet mindset, it would increase chances by somewhere between 20 and 70 percent.
Maybe. I can see how certain sites can skew reality for both men and women.
But if they were more bold they'd likely have more success. I strike out more than Kyle Schwarber, but if you don't take at bats you won't get on base very often.
The average guy has a girlfriend or is having sex with a woman.
The internet dating thing is typically for the best looking people to find and date each other, not for average looking dudes trying to date a beautiful woman.
"The internet dating thing is typically for the best looking people to find and date each other"
This is my point. Thanks to social media like IG and dating apps average looking women now think they deserve a man who is a 10 where before the internet Bob down the street making 75k a year would be a catch.
That's simply not true. Average women are dating average dudes.
You're too old to actually think YouTube videos by morons is actually a reflection of the real world outside. C'mon.
Average guys in small towns can't compete with women who are getting 2000 likes on their instagram these days. The average guy just isn't simply good enough anymore. And even if average guys are dating average women... there are now less average women to choose from thanks to the internet indoctoring them
There's plenty of women to choose from and decent women too but the average looking guy wants to date and marry a girl that looks like a young Jennifer Lopez, and ignore all the subpar women out there looking to date and marry.
I actually go outside the house and see a bunch of ugly people dating and married to each other, average people dating and married to each other.
Your whole premise there's less average women to choose from looks like you pulled that out your 🍑
The internet has nothing to do with what you're talking about in the real world. It just doesn't and the few exceptions to the rule doesn't make your argument true.
Lol well it’s true average men do the same thing so I guess it’s true for them but not for women …ok thanks for the comments
well even if there isn't internet there still gossip, newspaper, her boss, your boss, people in power at the church, her doctor, and tons of other people that hold authority and attraction in her eyes, the only thing the internet did was make everyone visible to everyone so now women will do what they always have done faster which is go for the top 15% of man of any platform,
if a man is average in person is ALWAYS the best way to convey attraction.
Yes he would. Women's options wouldn't be huge and that means less attention and validation thus keeping her humble and seeing average men as suitable partners
More like if social media didn't exist or capitalize on the humans natural tendencies to be kinda narcissistic.. So not the interwebs themselves but social media. Kinda ruined human interaction..
I think people would be more committed. With SM everyone is in this swipe right, uber-eats, FOMO bed-hopping flex. It's making people really callous.
yes and if they weren't suck dicks. average men have an inferiority complex that makes bitter. its really unpleasant.
@Pacquet yea its not their falt but i tell you something. all the people who are hot but 100% effort into it. it pisses me of when i see women who do two hours at the gym everyday. spend a fortune per week on beauty treatment. do massages eyebrow waxing (which hurt), spend an hour a day straignening their hair and putting makup on. facial threading boxy waxing. practicaly starve themselves to stay thin. on top of 100 situps per day. as well as spending hours lloking for the righ clothes for their body. obviously after all that they look hot. but its such hard work to keep it up. i understand why they get fed up when some average man who doesn't try to look good asks them out and get pissed when they turn them down. if men (of any height) put that much effort in their looks they would never get turned down.
i think guys in general can find what they're looking for easier
I mean, technology must've helped boosting women's ego a little bit... Can't even imagine what a female account's dms feel like 🤣🤣... but does it make THAT impact? mhmm, doubt it!..
It's the other way around, with the Internet and clubs I have sex more easily because it helps me find easy, alcoholic women easily.
You lost me 🤣🤣🤣
i would say yes but only slightly. cause female egos are hyperinflated by male approaches in real life in much the same way.
Yes. I think that is at the heart of it and now we have a baby bust.
Possibly, women might not have such high standards
I would say artificial high standards thanks to social media validation
Yeah exactly
Why don't you just date average looking woman? Problem solved.
Because now average looking women feel entitled to settle down with high value men because they get validation from the internet so it much be so lol
Are you insinuating that attractive men are high value men?
It's not black and white. Some are some aren't.
Ok so you contradicted yourself.
You're mistaken. Everything I have said is spot on. Can't be anymore clear lol
Probably. But also if they just got their assess off the internet.
For a meet up and no sex then no, cuz of photoshop. But yes for sex as well.
How do we know that the women see the actors you mentioned, as average looking?
theyd have better chances if good looking guys didn’t exist, don’t blame the internet 😂
They didn't exist unless you went on vacation somewhere before the internet lol
Men are picky and judgmental too. Not just women.
Average men don't have women hitting them up for sex on social media like avg women do. Nobody sliding into their front yard lol
probably not. I think dating history, pre internet speaks to that
Yes, but it does, so...
Gag is a place where you can ponder things that sometimes aren't real and have some fun with it... welcome lol
I’d imagine so
Yes.
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Duh.
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