Why do we value women with a low body count?

[JustMeQ2]

What does it show in a woman?

[Miristheiss]

It is valued if one wants a long term girlfriend or wife.

If a guy just wants to have sex and wants a relatively nice looking girl who will put out quickly then the don't mind it and it isn't seen as a low value thing.

A girlfriend or wife is someone viewed as special and unique, a woman apart from other women. A special woman to give your heart to for life... even have children with.

A lot of guys are hurt by, don't find it "special" and are unwilling to commit when they know a bunch of guys have already touched her from head to toe, sucked her, licked her, run their hands all over her, she sucked them, he was inside of her, she gave it all to him. A lot of these guys weren't even special. Just some dude she met at the bar that night.

It just is the way it is.

Why even question it? Seriously? Why do women question it? Why don't we question you instead? Women only expect men not to care because they DO NOT care. Most women don't care if a man has slept around a lot. Well, that standard is on YOU. YOU choose to not care. Just because you don't care doesn't mean you can expect men not to care. Obviously many men are grossed out by promiscuous women. Those are just the facts of life. It doesn't really matter if you don't like it. No one cares.

The sexual revolution and birth control pill culture has preached to women that they can sleep around all they want and there are no consequences and all is good. Well, relationships are falling apart, long term commitments are at an all time low. Kids are born like crazy outside of a stable family home, abortions like crazy, sexual diseases are being passed, men and women are at odds with each other like never before, women are on anti-depressants and seeing therapists in droves.

If one wants a wife, wants one special girl... it often matters. It just is. Whether people like it or not.

[tbtbtb]

Don't let miserable women fool you: men should care about it. The most responsible, mature and intelligent men care about women's body count a lot more than trashy guys and players. The reason is simple: It shows discipline, that a woman will not chase pleasure no matter what, self respect, that she is confident enough to know not to give her attention to any guys, and commitment, because it's hard to have a high body count if you stay in stable, long term relationships.

[Mewkobneeiof]

Thanks so were my husband at? I’m getting old.

[Bricealan]

@Mewkobneeiof Old? you're only 30 !!!

[Mewkobneeiof]

@Bricealan thanks. Usually you hear guys online say thirty is old for a lady.

[Bricealan]

@Mewkobneeiof Well, yeah, but then, those guy that say that are REALLY 15!!!

[Mewkobneeiof]

@Bricealan haha… surprised 15 year old are interested in this stuff. When I was that age I was idolizing people sleeping around.

[Bricealan]

@Mewkobneeiof Sleeping around always aroused me too, but the problem is getting caught. It is better that the spouse knows that one or the other is having sex with others. Otherwise if one is found out it is a disaster. I dont' know how to arrange an Open Marriage? I know it works for some, but for others it is not possible.
My cousin is one that should have talked to her husband and asked to have sex with others, rather than having a lover when her husband was away.

[Avicenna]

High Body counts are an indication of a lack of impulse control, instability in relationship or emotional and psychological problems, all of which are dealbreakers in relationships. A woman with a high body count isn’t going to be a faithful, long-term partner.

[Peanutbutter1221]

What about men with a high body count? Does the same apply to them

[Avicenna]

@Peanutbutter1221: That’s not something I’ve considered since I‘m straight, but yeah, I don’t see why that would not also apply to men

[Peanutbutter1221]

I didn't mean as in for men you are into romantically

But what i mean is does body count and your views also apply to men as in you

[Vegasrunner]

@Peanutbutter1221 No, a man with a high body counts indicates someone w/ the ability to execute strategies, set goals and complete tasks.

[Peanutbutter1221]

@Vegasrunner so why the double standards with women

[davado88]

you're an idiot mate

[Peanutbutter1221]

@davado88 how is that a valid response? This is clearly double standards

[davado88]

@Peanutbutter1221 i wasn't talking to you, stupid, im on your side in this

[Naruse]

@Peanutbutter1221 Presumably due to the differences in how they date. Women get asked out, men do the asking and in the process have to be more charismatic. I actually don't mind personally I think it would probably just means she's better at sex but that's the reasoning. 'A key that opens many locks is a master key, a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock'

[BlackBeauty90]

Not to mention it is often an indication of more serious issues. I've only dated a few guys but what I've noticed among colleagues or friends who either have high body count or date such people is among higher body count there's a higher prevalence for criminal behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, joblessness or lower income jobs (people with multiple jobs after all usually cannot find good jobs), attitude problems (narcissism in particular or poor me victim trends), etc

[Vegasrunner]

@Peanutbutter1221 It's kind of common sense. Any women can get laid so no one is going to assign value to something that anyone can accomplish. It's much more difficult for a man to have sex which is why we typically admire men that can. Most of this plays out logically as well. How many times have you been around a group of women and tried to impress them by telling them about how many men you've slept with?

[davado88]

@Vegasrunner its common sense to me that you've very rarely been laid and get rejected by women a lot.
I usually side with the blokes but this body count nonsense is absolute horseshit no matter how much scientific thinking youve concocted to support it.
youb hate women because their rejections hurt your feelers. ENDOSTORY

[BlackBeauty90]

@davado88 the irony is, is vega has indicated elsewhere he doesn't have a good personality which is typical of people who have high body count. I mean I've read posts of his in the past where he's even threatened quite bluntly to beat up other users husbands simply because she didn't agree with him.

[davado88]

@avicennabe honest mate, your low body count is due to being rejected by a lot of women. Your wife and a few hookers is about it. and thats the reason you're so nasty to women,
you're jelly.
its not rocket surgery

[Singing_Hollow]

@Peanutbutter1221 You can answer that for yourself and select based on your preference, however most woman want someone experienced and dont really care to how many people a mans slept with. Men are territorial and protective by nature and having a woman who respects herself not to give herself to multiple men is attractive.

[Avicenna]

@davado88: I don't know who you think you're trying to impress from your mother's basement, but it won't get you laid for the first time. You have a lot to learn about life and your bad personality will continue to hamper you, so you need to work on that as well.

[Vegasrunner]

@davado88 That certainly is an opinion that you are welcome to hold however I'm not sure what if any relevance it had to do w/ me. Perhaps it's the "feeleings" that have left you in the position you're in.

[Ms_Facesitter]

This probably goes for a guy who wants a long term relationship and finds sex a very important, special and intimate thing that you don't just share. It might tell them we are looking for a serious partner with the same values, and not just here for fun.

[OlderAndWiser]

Because it feels more special if we are her #3 rather than her #83.

[msc545]

Sometimes if you want someone bad enough, you're going to have to give up the idea of that supposedly special feeling.

[YAsQuen]

@msc545 aaaaaaaaand u guys broke up

[msc545]

@YAsQuen who did?

[Farrel12]

What about you’re the first person

[AviatorTom]

When you buy a pre-owned (used) car, do you like one with low mileage or high mileage?

[Peanutbutter1221]

Can we say the same about men?

[AviatorTom]

@Peanutbutter1221 Of course you can.

[YAsQuen]

@Ofynyny i would argue it does apply to men but just less so. Ie if for women 2 is too much 6 might be too much for men.
its due to what and when hormones get released for men and women during sex.

So men get no bonding hormones released during one night stands but they do after multiple times without changing partner (ie one monogamous relationship)

But for women even the first one night stand releases said bonding hormones.

[nice-girl]

When someone has a lot of sex partners, especially a woman, she might lose her ability to pair bond. It becomes more and more difficult to be in love after a lot of sexual partners.

Nature made it this way: when we have sex with someone, and maybe become pregnant, we don't see their flows. This is designed in a way that two people stay together and take care of their child. This assures the continuation of the species.

When this bonding is lost over and over again, it's difficult to really get attached to a man.

[BourbonAndBacon]

If someone is looking for long term relationships they definitely prefer low body count but if someone prefers shorter term relationships then higher body count is fine. If your hiring an employee long term then you look for someone who has a lower number of jobs in their history and longer tenure at each job. If you are looking for a seasonal employee then its not important how many jobs they have listed on their resume. Can't assume everyone wants a low body count because everyone has different wants or needs.

[Bricealan]

"We" don't, I don't, value a woman with a low body count. What the hell is to be VALUED by that? We get the same kind of bullshit, male chauvinistic, moron questions on this site every fucking day!! Jesus Christ tomatoes! ENOUGH with the 'low body count' bullshit, please!

What's with you guys, anyway?

[BlackBeauty90]

Loser

[daisygreenlove]

The only men who have ever made a huge deal about it to me, were very manipulative, controlling and very much without honor. Usually no job and needed me for financial support. A real Man will ask that type of question. BUT, most don't care unless they are a baby BOY, or their religion perpetuates that. But that is not our argument. Nor would I never ask himm what matters, is NOW.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's only natural to be suspicious over someone who had sex with multiple people because chances are you're just not going to be the first choice in relationships. Why should I date someone who had sex with many of her "friends" when there's a chance when I can end up the same? To anyone who say that body count don't matter, sure it doesn't affect someone physically but we all know that's an indicator of someone who is just irresponsible and a slut/player who's just going to leave you behind for another person.

[Nikki1989]

That only applies to insecure men that lack confidence.

[JesseP1nk]

For example. If i choose a car that have had only 2 owners instead 20. Then im just insecure. Got it.

[Jess_D]

@JesseP1nk let’s see what inanimate object women are being compared to today!

[Jess_D]

Exactly. It’s always guys who can’t get women who are so worried about body counts.

[WhereIsMyMind]

@JesseP1nk most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard 🤣

[Kingofkings1992]

Right. Not wanting a girl who can land a plane in between her legs makes a guy insecure? Lmao

[Kingofkings1992]

@WhereIsMyMind that’s actually a spot on comparison. Obviously a car with 20k miles on it has more value than one with 300k miles on it. Choosing a partner works the same way

[Apple1996]

@Kingofkings1992 no one should compare a car to a human being. They ain't comparable

[Kingofkings1992]

@Apple1996 you’re missing the point entirely. No one has the time or crayons for you

[love_conquers_lust]

@Jess_D @WhereIsMyMind. Would you find that same trait appealing in men? If you’re not in the mood, wouldn’t you feel more secure knowing you can trust your spouse to be loyal and his track record shows he can patiently wait for you?

[love_conquers_lust]

@Kingofkings1992 I get your analogy, but that comparison is something a king of assholes would say.

[JesseP1nk]

@Jess_D Actually that is not true- im living proof of that :)

[Kingofkings1992]

@love_conquers_lust I am the king of assholes

[Vegasrunner]

@Jess_D You think guys that get women want one w/ a high body count?

[Kingofkings1992]

@Jess_D you have it ass backwards. Guys who can’t get women attach no importance to body count. 🤣

[love_conquers_lust]

@Vegasrunner Back for more, huh.

@Kingofkings1992 That’s some real ownership, I can respect that. I’ll at least throw you a bone and say if we’re going to get offended at comparing women to cars, I’d like to direct our collective attention to another post comparing both genders to test driving a car before purchasing in regards to premarital intercourse. No one really batted an eye at that objectification as far as I remember.

But my message to you is the same to that tool @Vegasrunner, what right have either of you to demand such a thing if you can’t bring that to the table yourselves?

[Vegasrunner]

@love_conquers_lust TY for sharing that emotional charged rant, however I have no clue what you're talking about are you sure you tagged the correct person?

[love_conquers_lust]

@Vegasrunner “TY for sharing”. Here’s some more since you liked it so much. You don’t remember our last exchange? You don’t like being held accountable for the poison that spews from your mouth? Why did it take you so long to come up with an empty response?

I was enjoying the silence, it felt like your consent, as something you would say. Then you had to go and open your mouth.

[Apple1996]

@oksoundsgood yess you are exactly right about this

[Friendlybro79]

@oksoundsgood That's not a fair statement to say. They may be insecure and just want to be with someone they can learn together from. Men and women don't have a single brain that share all the same thoughts and opinions. So it's possibly a reason not the only one.

[JesseP1nk]

@oksoundsgood Manipulate for what? For sex? If someone only wants sex then why would he choose someone with low bodycount? Your statement does not make sense.
If only thing he wants is sex then he would have higher chance (statistically) to have sex with someone with high bodycount.

[love_conquers_lust]

@JesseP1nk <-This pussy is playing games blocking and unblocking. I find the guys on here who block me have bigger vaginas than the girls they complain about. Then when someone with teeth bites back, they have to go powder their puss.

@ JesseP1nk You’ve broken my peaceful silence again.

[JesseP1nk]

@oksoundsgood Manipulate someone just to be rude to her? Great story, bro! 🤣 That does not make sense. If someone is rude or "shitty" that have "purpose"

[Apple1996]

@JesseP1nk men manipulate women like this so they can have power in the relationship and can easily abuse them. It's real fucked up but happens way to often

[Apple1996]

@oksoundsgood oh no sorry to hear that 😔

[JesseP1nk]

So men that want women with low bodycounts are narcissists and want to abuse women? Got it... 🤣 How is life in loonie land?

[Apple1996]

@JesseP1nk it's never okay to side with abusers. Be better and work on yourself instead

[Friendlybro79]

@oksoundsgood regarding abusive people or narcissists of course they exist but not all men that date women with low body counts are abusive and narcissistic. If you've had some bad experiences in your life that you're seeing from, I'm sorry. That said if you don't like women being all generalized into whatever stereotype please give the same regard to men. We get it men can be assholes but we're not all assholes. Your point is made.

[JesseP1nk]

@Apple1996 Where did i say i side with abusers?

[Apple1996]

@JesseP1nk not saying you specifically but men that want low count/virgins. I've never met one man like that who wasn't a abuser

[Friendlybro79]

@JesseP1nk block her she's a moron.

[JesseP1nk]

"not saying you specifically but men that want low count/virgins" Just because you say that does not make it a fact. That is only your opinion based on your own experience.

[jeffend888]

Certainly explains why you're 34 and single.

[love_conquers_lust]

@Friendlybro79 @jeffend888. You guys just come off an assembly line somewhere?

[Friendlybro79]

@love_conquers_lust Yeah an assembly line that builds rational human beings that is tired of stupid questions generalizing billions of people

[love_conquers_lust]

@Friendlybro79 Yeah? And who do you think hears more of that?

You ever been called a worthless slut for copulating with a bunch of slutty chicks whether it be by choice or not? You ever been peer pressured into homosexuality because a bunch of chicks said it was soooo hot? You been called a worthless single father and that you deserved to raise your kid alone for making poor choices and then blamed for children's bad behavior for absence of a mother? You ever been told your balls would dry up and that your life was over at 30 because you fucked a bunch of hot, slutty girls? You're ever been told your skinny, string bean ass or overweight fat fuck dad bod was unfuckable? You ever been peer pressured by friends, family members, your own damn testicles into saying your biological clock is ticking and you better impregnate a woman soon before the window closes or else cathood awaits you? You ever been told that you're weak, that you can't live without women, and that your opinion doesn't mean shit?

There are more men born than girls, why is it that more women than men die alone? What happened to that oversupply of men early in life? You like knowing that you and I are more likely to die early? Why do you think that is? Where is the source of our high mortality rate coming from?

My point is generally one thing and one thing alone... be kind to women.

[Friendlybro79]

@love_conquers_lust What the hell are you talking about? Lol I am kind to people. That doesn't mean I won't debate things. And also some people here men and women are in fact morons. Blocking morons helps with cycling out the stupid hateful and generalized questions you don't feel like debating any longer. You can block me and I'd understand. That wouldn't make you a bigger vagina (your words) than the women we're blocking lol. Fyi take your own advice and be kinder to women by not using vagina as a slang term to put a man down. You're just putting women down by using it that way. You can block me or reply I really don't care about your opinion and you're totally in your right to not care about mine. I'm out! See ya

[love_conquers_lust]

@Friendlybro79 I hate people who think they've found moral high ground implying invalidation of EVERYTHING that was said prior because of one insult.

Did I use vagina as a slang term? Or is it that I implied men act more like the very people they insult when they have a bigger one? Why would I deride something I enjoy? You do have a point that it can be construed as you say.

I'm sure people block for a variety of reasons. But the guys I was referring to were the mysogynistic pricks.

Not very impressed with "mic drop".

[Starrrboy]

Because nobody likes the second place? lol... the very point of being in a relationship or getting involved with someone is because of the intimacy.. and intimacy means exclusivity.. and exclusivity means what they do with you , they don't do it with other people.. so you always try to have the someone that makes you feel like one of a kind as much as possible..

[Levin]

Same reason I'm not into women who eat too many burgers. Discipline and self respect are important.

Plus there is the psychological aspect. I'm getting intimate and doing certain things with a girl. I don't want to be thinking about the 30 dicks that have been there or what she may be swimming in.

[jshm2]

The same reason you value people with a low job turnover count, or a low crime count.

Some people have pig headed notions that being "high count" always means better.

These are the sorts of fuckwits who will fantasise over high count serial killers.

[Fireguy17]

Because the "we" you were talking about are idiots.

We all have a history.

It's such convoluted thinking that it's ok for a guy to go mount anything that will hold still long enough, yet it isn't ok for a woman to enjoy herself.

[Nirmroth]

isn't that only a problem when you're insecure and worry about not performing as good as her ex partners? I mean women have those to but not to that extent. Its seems like a common issue in men, like nearly a whole gender needing therapy

[JustMeQ2]

That would depend on how important is sex to them. There are a lot more important things than sex in a long-term relationship.

For your take to encompass everyone who holds this opinion, every man/woman needs to put sex as the most important thing in a relationship.

However, when a mismatch happens, that can be a factor on both sides.

[NewgodOmega]

Coz if you had tried 600 soft drinks and when you try the 601 you would compare then with the previous 600 you had before and even then it won't be enough for you
Women can't stop 2 things comparing and complaining
And higher bodycount kinda multiples that factor

[Friendlybro79]

Why do some people value this and worry about this is a better question and less generalizing. Some possibile answers that anyone can deduce would include:

Religion, intimidation, insecurity, hypocrisy, shallowness.

Low or high body counts don't tell an entire story of a person which is why you can't say one all encompassing statement. First there's no real definition of what low or high is. Well maybe low is zero to one. More than one could seem ridiculous to some.

[msc545]

Low body count is predictive of less crazy, which in turn is predictive of a lower probability of cheating going forward.

The untalked-about variable is actually age of first menstruation, with women who manstruate earlier having earlier sexual experiences and thus a higher body count by the time older men meet them. Early sexual behavior in women is correlated with the emergence of impulse and personality disorders.

[Joshydavid25]

Because sex is easy for a woman.. So if she withholds for someone special, it shows her values, and her respect for herself..

[Apple1996]

There is no reason to value a body count number. It's basically a made up thing

[davado88]

i agree. although you can see on a chicks face whether she's had one too many dicks. No idea why but i can anyway

[Apple1996]

@davado88 lol interesting 🤔 I'll send a pic of my face and you take a guess

[davado88]

haha thats not a great idea, i rarely lie

[Apple1996]

@davado88 I'll enjoy the honesty

[davado88]

nooe else enjoys it

[davado88]

noone, well except my brother

[Apple1996]

@davado88 nah most of your comments here make me laugh. It's a good thing to be overly honest

[Joshydavid25]

I dated a girl with a high body count number, and I accepted her... Let's just say... She wasn't healthy.. I know my experience is anecdotal, but a healthy woman (or man) doesn't have a high count, it's not a made up thing.

[Apple1996]

@Joshydavid25 I barely even have a "body count" but if someone seriously asked me this question to try to determine how they relationship would be I wouldn't tell them or even be able to be with them. It's so dumb

[Joshydavid25]

If someone asked you why we value women with a low body count? I do agree that it is kind of an intrusive question to ask.. The past is the past and as long as the person is willing to commit, it shouldn't be a problem.

[AmeerX]

I feel if you are virgin then prefer a virgin, but once you have done it then no point of Body counts. 1 or 1000, it doesn't really matter.
And body count of married people doesn't really count. You can marry a divorced or widowed girl being a Virgin

[genericname85]

because that means she's a good decision maker and a loyal soul.

[Billlewis]

I don't value a woman who hasn't had much sex at all. In fact, I consider it a red flag of sorts.