Should average men quit the dating scene nowadays?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

No, to the guys who consider themselves average, listen, put your big boy pants on, F what some idiotic/immature girls or women have told you, distance yourself from all these stupid terms like beta male, alpha male, etc. Look at yourself in the mirror, tell yourself, I am worthy enough, I will work hard, and work on myself, the door will open up where I find someone eventually. Have that mindset. Guys really have to support other guys on here and in general. Because fellas, if you allow this world to crush you, if you allow feminist extremists to devalue you and make you feel like garbage, you won't survive in this world. Don't allow those idiots get to you. I often see great guys just lose their self confidence and self respect over others. Majority of the time these bitter angry girls, these feminist extremists, these so-called alpha male douche bags have internal issues with themselves they have deep rooted issues where they hate themselves but they will attack others online or in person so that they feel better about themselves. That ship has sailed with this notion about feminism is female empowerment. A lot of girls and women are silent at Palestinian women and girls being killed in Gaza by the Zionist state of Israel. I don't see girls or women in the west joining forces creating some feminist army to protect women and girls facing tear gas, missiles, white phosphorus, bullets, sharp objects.

I've noticed feminists talk a lot online but they won't put their boots on the ground. I'm tired of the constant degradation of males. How does allll this tie to dating scene nowadays? It takes two to tango, unfortunately, a lot of western young women are brain washed and in the future they will realize their faults and mistakes but it will be too late, once an opportunity passes ladies, don't mope you chose that path. This has to be said, because far too many guys and men are dealing with and battling depression and women and girls don't care, some of them are happy and that's a sick, twisted satanic approach women/girls have. To the guys/men, there are great women and girls out there, you'll find the right one, you've only crossed paths with the one's who were not meant for you. It's not because you're not on her level, it's because she is not on your level with your kindness, loyalty, trust and hard work.

mattthefatbat · Accepted Answer

Average men can still have luck on the dating scene, yes even now a days, there's never a need to give up on something you really want to achieve in life.
With that said I Kinda would hate to say it like this but honestly in my experience, lonely, kinda depressed, women were a lot more sympathetic and understanding than some other women out there. If they like you, They don't go ghost, they listen to what you have to say, they don't play ridiculous games or complain about you not being enough of this or that
I hate that it took some women to become depressed to actually show more honesty, loyalty and care towards you and your relationship but especially when you help her come out from her dark space of depression she's has a higher chance of wanting to stay with you in one way or another, because of that bond is a bit stronger, and really I'm just guessing but I believe that would also make her value rhe relationship with you at least a little bit more.
But as with any game of chance each person you meet is very unique in every way you'll never know who you connect with really until you really get to know them, no need to take every rejection personally either, your destiny will open up to you a new and possibly better path

thatshydork · Accepted Answer

No, but they should be aware that other people are allowed to reject them. They also should know how to take rejection instead of just going “well you’re ugly anyways” or worse. Also they shouldn’t expect anything in return just because they’re being nice to someone or paid for something for the other person.

I’ve met way too many women who have had experiences with men like that for comfort. I mean, I know that not all men act that way, but, and as much as I hate it, at some point you just gotta start assuming to keep yourself safe. I mean, there’s been so many women who have been m*rdered just for rejecting a guy.

IslaTheWitch · Accepted Answer

"average" is a statistical term... it means someone around 50% of measured thing.

there are no average people in the real life we are all unique with our set of traits, experiences and talents

only those who don't want to date should probably leave, why the rest should?

blueonblack22 · Answer

Some pink anon below very “bravely” (and so intelligently…cough) posted that Average men have the best odds when dating. She was so brave she didn’t allow anybody to leave comments on her post.

Statistically over 63% of men under 30 are single right now. But I guess the hard data must all be an illusion.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Tmo8geBTARk

Not say that men bitching and copping out is a good thing. But that’s not really what’s happening. Let’s not kid ourselves. Women hold the real power in dating when all else is equal. I repeat women have a distinctive advantage over men in dating when all else is equal (looks, money, intelligence, etc).

It’s because women can expect to be treated special just for existing. Men are only “special” on what they are able to do (agency).

Most of these so called “incels” you see complaining would of most likely been happily married 50 years ago. But our modern society has brought out the worst in women.

But women changed first in the western world and not for the better. Men changed in reaction to women (and not for the better either).

But I do think there is nothing men can do until women finally come to a agonizing realization that they are self sabotaging themselves. So guys putting up exhaustive posts about how destructive modern feminism is for society isn’t going to do any good.

Sadly women will need to find out the hard way first that more often then not their misery is because of their own selfish decisions not the fault of “patriarchy”.

Lliam · Answer

Only those who don't know how to interact socially or how to treat women. The scaredy cats, those who limit themselves to social media, and those who refuse to "settle" for cute, nice, average girls.

I, personally, always preferred average girls - cute, true-blue, girl-next-door types with nice figures instead of stuck up mean girls, prom queens and Beckies.

"Among those 18 to 29 years of age, 63% of men versus 34% of women considered themselves single. This dropped to 25% of men and 17% of women for those 30 to 49 years of age."

How many of those people are actually seeking relationships? For that matter, how many of those people are part of the LGBTQI+ community?

"57% were “Not currently looking for a relationship or casual dates”, 7% were looking for “Casual dates only”, 22% were interested in “Either a committed romantic relationship or casual dates”, and only 13% were interested in “A committed romantic relationship only.”

"The percentage of single Americans who are looking for a relationship or casual dates is lower than in 2019, especially among men. This number dropped from 49% in 2019 to 42% in 2022, 61% to 50% among single men and 38% to 35% among single women."

"The type of relationship single Americans are looking for varies by gender. While 19% of men were looking for “Casual dates only,” fewer single women (15%) said the same. A greater percentage of single women (41% vs. 25%) were looking for “A committed romantic relationship only.”

So 41% of single women are looking for committed relationships. And I guarantee that, contrary to claims by Manosphere influencers, those women aren't holding out for "Chads" and "Alpha men".

So if guys want go give up and huddle in their basements, that's fine. It means all the more dating options for the rest.

CaptainOverthink · Answer

No. Just quit the apps.
Apps come with weird criterias like texting-rizz and profile-framing that has little to no baring once you meet face to face.
Why the hassle of being filtered away online when you can make a real impression irl, and feel good about it, instead of ghosted behind a screen.

- Take dancing-lessons then go social-dancing.
I recommend Fox and Westcoast swing, they offer good variation on music-types, dynamic pair-dancing, is fast&Slow, offer plenty of opporotunity to talk and express creativity.

- Go out on clubs, festivals or pubs.

- Look around in the area, what types of courses and events are there out there that would offer places to meet new people?
Being open and humble to learn new things is attractive, take a leap.

Cheapskate · Answer

I think if you find a woman attractive, and are available, then you should give her a chance to date you. If she says "no thanks", you should respect that. There is a virtually endless supply of women in the world, so you can keep trying for as long as your ego can take it.

But if you feel like it isn't worth the effort, no one is forcing you.

And just as you would want women to be the best person they can be (because that ultimately benefits you), you should strive to be the best person you can be.

crossdressingrihno · Answer

They absolutely should.
Instead of looking for a relationship, go off and do your own thing and maybe someday one will just like fall in your lap or something.

A few times I ended up in a relationship due to an argument. We’d get into argument about whether but then it would somehow devolve into flirtation and eventually a relationship.

Anyways, the point I’m making is that you shouldn’t pursue a relationship because they’re just bound to happen anyways and the effort you put into looking For a relationship could instead go to your hobbies, work and random projects.

itsclearlynicholas · Answer

I quit at 30, or a few days after 30, lol, I haven't been on Bumble for a few days now lol 😁😆 and counting. Look I happily don't mind be retired from the dating scene. If I didn't score in my 20s, I'm not fussed that I wouldn't score now in my 30s. So instead I stick to my other life's pursuits like working, making money, family, food, friends, money, lol, and enjoying the finer things in life, thankfully without screaming offspring or a nagging wife/girlfriend with a bad personality ahahahaha 😁😁👀

Anonymous · Answer

No. But they should give women the attention they EARN. Too many guys look at all women as they were created equal. They're not! Too many guys waste time on women who would never even consider them. Too many guys treat women as though they are some sort of prize that needs to be won.

It's up to a woman to show interest in YOU. Then it's your job to pursue her if interested. But her job is not over. She must continue to show interest. If not, he needs to pull up stakes and move on. Too many guys fall for one interaction with a woman. Too many guys today do not have enough value in themselves to tell a woman to hit the bricks.

Yoursweetgirl · Answer

Not all men 🤡
But who wants to date should understand that woman doesn't owe sex just because she was offered to go on a date or got dinner or flowers.
Most men feel used after dated because they are paying or stuff and in the end of the date woman refuses to go at their place

Static_In_The_Attic · Answer

As for the dating pool it’s a cesspool nowadays & as for average guys they shouldn’t quit the dating scene however maybe they should take a break & continue looking until they find someone worth dating or find a boom boom buddy to satisfy their needs in the meantime.

grega239 · Answer

From what I've observed, they already are quiting.

Mgtow is growing, millions of passport bros, gaming is the biggest entertainment industry at the moment.

If men would rather spend their time on a plastic box than try and find a woman, i think its pretty clear they can't be bothered with dating

bobby_bush_eater · Answer

Absolutely not. Quit the self pity and do some self reflection. Too many men are looking for their future wives in bars, clubs, tinder and Instagram... There are other places, there are average good women and we all crave companionship it's genetic.

Also it doesn't take much to separate yourself from the "average" outside of looks and financial status. Becoming interesting is not as hard as it seems and that's attractive

Anonymous · Answer

Average men have the best odds when dating so no they shouldn’t. It’s the ones who have character flaws and feminine qualities (IE the men on this site) who should quit dating. They are not average men because the average man doesn’t complain like women do.

BerryP · Answer

First youd have to describe "your view" of an average man...

Remember there is always somebody for somebody else out there and what one may call average the next person things they are a 15/10.

I always liked the quote "I may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I'm somebody's shot of whiskey"

So my own opinion is no, everyone has the right to find their someone and even some of the hottest guys and gals are still somebody's view of "average" especially if they don't have the personality to boot. This is the case for me as I've definitely turned down a few thay are probably considered models by many but they just lacked a personality of substance.

MaybeTony · Answer

Average men should be putting their efforts into being above average instead of trying to impress women. It’s not that hard to be above average these days. Work hard at uni, build a physique, and put more hours into your career than your peers. Women tend to just make themselves available with little effort from your end when you start succeeding. Women are a byproduct of your competency and success. Chase that. Most younger men do it backwards and wonder why they have no luck.

Apple1996 · Answer

Nah but the problem with average men is they have very high standards and want a perfect 10/10 woman. They need to bring themselves back down to earth and date for love and put their high standards aside.

RebelinSteel · Answer

The more that quit, the more fun it is for those that don’t. Go for it.

4ngelic · Answer

no... like litterally every average dude ever is and has been getting some since high school. the only ones who aren't are the socially inept ones

Pohjolan · Answer

Women rate 80% of men below average.

That said the average American man should fix his diet and workout regularly.

However societally this whole The age of the familyman is over. The age of fuckboys is now. is less than ideal.

Rangers · Answer

Most of them, yes. At least in the US, if you're willing to look at girls outside the country, still strong odds of success

MzAsh · Answer

Not necessarily. Most average men can find a nice, equally average woman if they put forth the effort.

Lynx122 · Answer

Yes, especially when you're young and you're not having success. When you're 30 and your life is starting to go well then you can give it another try but before that you're just wasting time and making yourself feel worse.

SweetDripp · Answer

If they do, they shouldn’t complain about not meeting women.

Slim57 · Answer

Just online dating, that's where the worst women are anyway, just keep trying and take every opportunity that comes your way, put yourself out there, it took a lot of trying but if I can get dates/laid/relationships anyone can if they stop focusing on all the women who reject them and go for the ones not egotistical and hive minded, and maybe take your standards a couple notches back and focus on a good personality

Unit1 · Answer

Might as well. Most men are invisible to women anyways except in places like Thailand. Passport bros is not just some random fad.

Harshbro · Answer

For the average man (5’10, 5/10, avg build, $60k/yr) dating is incredibly difficult. If on top of that you happen to non white it’s even harder. Never been a worse time to be alive in dating as avg joe

relax24 · Answer

It's sad as im sure most people want to find someone and be happy together. but the dating scene just seems like most people are out for a free feed etc. and so i can't be f'd. wasting my time on people. who don't value me as a person.

BonzoInBitburg · Answer

They should stop being average and and level up so they could date

wiltingrosepetal · Answer

You'll never know until you know. Try dating and if it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out

Raki016 · Answer

Well not to be tooo big of a D but to be fair one wipe and that perfect 10 goes to an 8 and on a bad day with no makeup maybe 7 6 which is average.

Darkest-Knight · Answer

Absolutely. Quit. Average guys don't stand a chance of getting a date. If you're not 10/10 with 6 pack abs and a bulging wallet women don't want anything to do with you. I use to see it all the time.

warsevf · Answer

Never quit, this world is surprising, you just have to be right place at right time and you will say right thing, it just clicks. I just never tried and realized this too late

Extraterrestrial1999 · Answer

No, and I don't wanna put the ''average'' label on anyone. Just because some people think they are average, doesn't mean it's true. There's a number of women who will say we're hot, or sexy.

CrabCakes11 · Answer

No. If you want to find a partner, be in the dating scene. If you don’t, then don’t.

Sevenpointfive · Answer

just the average ones? why not the less than average?

Ms_Facesitter · Answer

If they don't want a relationship, they should quit. If they want, they should date.

Anonymous · Answer

Winners will always win, losers will always lose. Pick your lane.

scholar4life · Answer

I say exit. The dating world for men is so miserable, condescending, toxic, and gynocentric. It is a win-lose transaction for men today. Save your money and time, and call the guys. Peace is better.

SolitarySolace · Answer

I quit dating and relationships altogether 9 years ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️ before it was cool.

Vegasrunner · Answer

Duh, yes. You should quite and spen your time making yourself better. Once you do that you'll never have to worry about getting a woman.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Yes! Average me will stay behind and take one for the team, reporting back if things improve.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Biologically it's impossible. Men and women are naturally going to date. The losers will be home masturbating to porn like they do everyday.

Anonymous · Answer

No, work on not being average. So many dudes are so pathetic now, what used to be an "average man" is probably an above average now.

whistlingwh0res · Answer

yeah... world is power hunger. average or weak men have no place. might as well just hang out. who knows? destiny will call you. every dog has its day

handsomelad70 · Answer

No. LOTS of non-studs have even hot girls. It depends on your personality, and yes, to some extent, bank account.

JayBones2469 · Answer

Why? There is so much easy pussy in the dating scene!!

Tomisworthless · Answer

They shouldve been glad to see the world becoming a reflection of my life

Anonymous · Answer

All men should quit dating. Women have made it not worth the trouble. if you need sex, get it and go.

Anonymous · Answer

Absolutely, we need to clear overpopulation so we all need to contribute to the cause

Siri137 · Answer

No. Why should they?

slatyb · Answer

No, they should date average women.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

It seems most already have.

Peridot25 · Answer

Sure, why not? 🤷‍♀️ Your choice

Fromdusktilldawn · Answer

I already quit

AngryCarl · Answer

That depends if they like having sex.

Anonymous · Answer

Only if you’re a bitch

Messiking · Answer

Yes.

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