Do you agree w/ this persons take on how it can be healthier for Women’s psychology, to ask Men out, instead of waiting for permission like children?

[VIVANT]

I think she said it beautifully.

It’s that anyone MUST initiate. But rather, to wait just for the sake of waiting. For permission. To live. Is detrimental.

“Q : How do I ask a guy out on a date?

A : Did you know, that when it comes to psychology, when you say to someone you’re attracted to them, this increases their curiosity to you and even gets them thinking you’re attractive. It can, if the person sees you attractive already at an unconscious level, get him to start thinking of dating you.

Did you also know, that most men, the confident ones, whether it’s a bad boy or someone who is just confident guy, will be very impressed by you asking him out.

Did you also know, that you can tell if the persons values, the world is positive or stinks, shallow, by asking them out on a date. If that person who is a friend or someone you just met starts acting weird, ignores you, this tells you a lot about how deep down, they are not really good person. They judge people a lot, they are shallow.

A person who takes it as a compliment, even if they say they are not interested will be nice to you, and when you see them again, they’ll be looking forward to saying hello to you. That shows they have goodness inside them and they feel a lot of empathy.

Did you also know…the experienenced, confident guys or guys who have never dated, like open communication. They don’t like the games, the hints. Many guys are like that anyways.

When you say it, it is a relief for them because they know you’re not into the mind games, you’re not insecure and you are sincere.

Did you also know, you’re not the only one attracted to the guy.

There are women who are and so, if you don’t make the move then you make it possible and increase the chance to 95% that the other, whoever she is, who asks him out, gets the guy.

Did you also know, whenever you don’t take action on something or someone you want, your growth is slowed down. You’re not learning, growing in confidence. “

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Well said. Overall, I agree.

Ehh I think she has makes some good points but I disagree.

OTHER.

I just wanna see results. 👣👣👣👣

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But moment you ask a guy out, you have overcome a learning curve about yourself, you also realise, it’s not as painful as you think or hard.

You get to realize something most don’t.

If you ask guys out often, different one, your speed of learning accelerates and you begin to fine tune faster on what works and what doesn’t.

You begin to see a pattern many girls don’t see.

That’s how bad boys learn. They accelerate their failure quicker than anyone, take risks faster because they have figured

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…they have figured out that they learn the patterns of different types of girls quicker and know what really works.

That’s why they are so good at it. They have failed far more and faster than any guy who is just so hung up with fear of rejection.
So either way, waiting for a guy to ask you isn’t about him.
It’s about you, your confidence, your self esteem and if you want to become what you always wanted to become…….. stronger.”

[Lliam]

I never had a problem with women being proactive. They have done if forever. Not necessarily by walking up to som guy and just asking a guy out. That would sound like a hook up proposal. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

But woman have always done things like finding opportunities to talk to a guy they were interested in; or to get them alone and flirt. Buys like to know when a woman is interested.

One girl that I knew at work said she had just gotten a new apartment and asked it I wanted to see it.
At another job, a girl said she had just bought a new car, a Trans Am, and wondered it I wanted to drive it. When I got to her house (she lived with her parents but they weren't home) she had cooked my lunch.
At another job, a girl asked if I wanted to see the Buddhist spiritual center she attended.
They were all sweet girls
Other girls would just find opportunities to chat and smile.

I made a date to meet one woman at a restaurant. We had only spoken on the phone but had never met. We really clicked when we met. Our conversation just flowed and time disappeared.

Two days after that date, she called me. I was surprised to hear from her. She said a friend had offered her two concert tickets and wondered if I was interested. Of course I was interested!

I admired her initiative and courage.

We went to the concert and had a great time. We started going steady and I asked her to marry me a year later.

So it pays for a woman to be proactive.

[ClassicDropout]

I agree. I don't get why people are so hung up on "traditional" dating strategies. If you like someone, go up and talk to them. That's ideal to me. When it's only men that try and initiate conversation with women, how the fuck are we supposed to know who is interested and who isn't without wasting a lot of time and effort? It just makes it easier on both men AND women if everyone puts for effort. And yes, I said easier. I also don't get why a lot of y'all WANT dating to be as hard as possible. Get rid of that weird pride

[VIVANT]

What I find most uncomfortable (aside from
The overall silliness and demoralizing quality…

But from practical terms, it allows for huge unnecessary margin of error when assessing interest.

under “traditional expectations” is if one person is expected to do all these things and maybe that particular person is shy or stressed or whatever and they don’t do those things on time but not bc they are not interested.. then everybody has the wrong idea where if everybody was expected to act if they’re interested, then it allows more time in space for things to develop rather than so much judgment on every single interaction. Too much pressure.

[LazerBean]

I agree with some of the stuff she said, like about how asking people out helps you learn to communicate and boost the confidence of the person you are asking out. However, she's wrong simply because of the fact that the premise of her opinion depends on the reason for women not asking men out being that they are "waiting for permission". Which I do not believe is true. For me, I believe for the majority of other women who choose not to ask him and out, it is because we want a man to demonstrate a certain amount of confidence and initiation before we think they are worth putting in the efforts to try dating. That is, however, an old fashioned way of thinking, which is why more and more women have started taking the lead in their relationship and asking men out.

[Altheavas]

All of these here are true, but it’s not the same with every situation.
As a woman, I don’t mind asking a guy out, but I would rather get to know the person a bit, hold long conversations search for similarities and matching energies to see if I stand a chance. I don’t jump to conclusions and invite a guy out just for the like of him.

[OlderAndWiser]

Many of these statements are true - in general - but certainly not universally - so it would be a mistake to use this as guidance with every potential interaction with a guy.

[Zack-Bann]

Coping mechanism of a guy who’s probably too shy to ask out a girl


You can play all the mental gymnastics you like the simplest answer will always remain the correct one:


You like somebody, let them know
Somebody like you, they let you know


Anything else is just a cowardly way to avoid rejection.
(Which we all hate. But if you want a rose you gotta reach into some prickles)

[VIVANT]

I don’t disagree..

by the way, What do roses smell like to you? It’s random I’m just curious bc I can’t really describe the smell. They are not exactly sweet a bit thorny smelling but floral I don't know lol

[Zack-Bann]

Where I come from we turn roses into a kind of decantation that’s both a sweet beverage or a herbal medicine

So they smell sweet to me, I think my receptors are tainted by the fact that I grew up drinking that

[glennos89]

We live in a time where guys are afraid to approach woman because some woman dont like to be approached and they will start accuse you that you are a freak or a pervert

I think it will be good to make the first moves for all the woman who choose the wrong guys over and over again and because of that say things like... "where did all the good men go"

Personally I totally prefer woman to approach me because I want a woman that really likes me for being me instead of me being the best choice out of all the dudes that also flirted with her. I don't wanne be the best of the worse I want someone that wants to be with me

[TadCurious]

I voted that overall I agree with this person about this issue. I think dating would be so much better if women truly felt confident asking guys out. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft

[Raaj4you]

Instead of asking out, women want to play hard to get. It's a complete waste of time for both men and women. I have already wasted years in searching for a girlfriend. All women are looking for Mr. Perfect. Where is Mr. Perfect or Ms. Perfect? Mr. or Ms. Perfect doesn't exist.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

When it just means "Do something you wish for" then I can only agree with the principle, whatever the context. Disregarding the details of the take.

[HighValue]

If a woman doesn't ask out at least 1/4 of the men she has dated or had a relationship with, she shouldn't complain about not finding a compatible partner.

[Sevenpointfive]

i agree mostly. even the part about castrating males so they look more feminine and being lesbian is so much easier than the fear of rejection.

[WhitneySnow]

This totally makes sense

[VIVANT]

🙂🙂

[Radiate143]

OTHER – VEHEMENTLY disagree that women should approach men for romantic pursuits period.

[Juxtapose]

I would definitely appreciate a woman making the first move. This isn't the 1950s anymore, we don't have to abide by oppressive social standards.

[MysticDevice]

I for one would definitely appreciate women making the first move.

Its actually almost dangerous for men to do that these days

[Jamie05rhs]

I completely agree 95%. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft

[Jamie05rhs]

This is the part I don't agree with:
"If that person who is a friend or someone you just met starts acting weird, ignores you, this tells you a lot about how deep down, they are not really good person. They judge people a lot, they are shallow."

People can act weird for any number of reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean they hate you. Maybe they're just going through an internal conflict or an ethical dilemma. Or maybe they have personal struggles going on and they're trying to protect you.

[Friendlybro79]

I'm not a psychologist so I'd refer to the experts in this

[Bklynbadboy12]

That's the cave man times if your a woman and you see a guy you like there is nothing wrong with asking him out

[Xawyx]

I agree, women should take more initiative.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Sounds like nonsense you’d read on Vogue magazine. Pure brain rot.

[eagle1951]

HMMM