Why aren’t guys who are willing to go above and beyond valued anymore in dating?

[MLGbreezy]

This is something that’s been on my mind for a while but I feel like woman do not like guys willing to go above and beyond to win there affection especially if they don’t truly like the guy.

I see more of a destain for these types of men and these men are even villainized in a world where woman want to be chased and given attention more than anything a men who’s remotely persistent is called a stalker or craver stalker depending or a harasser. Among other things men who aren’t liked by woman are accused of these are some other common ones.

I bring it up cause I was on this dating app where this girl wants a guy to be very persistent when it comes to her but from what I’ve seen most woman hate these types of men. And the act in general nowadays seems to be looked down upon both by men and woman.

I say this to say I feel like the act of courting in the generation is basically dead, a man trying his best to win a woman’s love could get you landed in court now unless you follow all these strict rules that says this is how your supposed to go about love based mostly on woman’s likes and dislikes you.

If they like you damn need anything under the sun is okay and persistence if almost any kind is seen as sweet. If she doesn’t and your a little to pushy your are now a harasser and cyber stalker. I do think there’s a line and a ways to go about this which is why I don’t generalize.

But I think an issue we have is how loosely these terms get thrown around and how easily people just agree like. Example a common way I’ve heard girls find out there man was being unfaithful or that I’ve heard woman get more info on a guy they like is stalking there’s socials sometimes under a fake or second account.

Pretty common stuff to I just find it weird how some things are okay based on gender weird behavior is weird regardless.

[Anonymous]

Women have ALWAYS lived half in a fantasy world. But up until the past few generations women were FORCED to be practical and search for a decent partner, as going it alone was not an option in society. But the social structure has been revamped in the past few generations. Women can now make thier own money, chase whatever interests them. And sleep with as many men as they like without fear of judgement (maybe by some guys but that's ok, there's plenty of guys out there).

You have to understand guys that are willing to go above and beyond are easily controllable in a woman's mind. If a guy can be had that easily if a guy is that agreeable he must have no balls. This is the way it plays out in most women's minds.

[MLGbreezy]

But see that my issue woman say they want a gentleman their Prince Charming and how does that correlate to a man with no balls and who is agreeable? Even then if I’m trying to put my best foot forward because I like you wand wanna see something between us that doesn’t mean I have no balls.

[MLGbreezy]

It’s a very weird mindset media portrays love as this fairy tail type of love which is unrealistic woman say they want that type of man yet consistently go for the opposite just cause a man has good values now he isn’t valued it’s so dumb I’ll alway stand by that sentiment